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This article was published by Andrew Evans (@Famine) on January 13th, 2020 in the Esports category.
NASCAR Racer Says Esports Race Team Deals Make "Real Race Car Drivers Want To Puke"
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Silver Arrows
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Does he realize how fraught of a situation NASCAR is in, in pretty much all feeder series they own and control, in terms of fan interest, especially with the disaster of a rules package that has sapped power from all vehicles?
Does he realize that eSports as a whole is an important way to diversify the stock of drivers considering how lily white racing as a whole is, and how NASCAR's own minority success problem has been an abject failure that has only really birthed Daniel Suarez in top flight action?
The fact of the matter is that this plucking of high quality eSports drivers is the future of motorsport. How much cheaper is it to assemble a sim racing rig and a subscription to iRacing and take the chance then buying a midget sprint car and having to make payments and gamble out your fortune just to make it to some of these events?
Does he realize that eSports as a whole is an important way to diversify the stock of drivers considering how lily white racing as a whole is, and how NASCAR's own minority success problem has been an abject failure that has only really birthed Daniel Suarez in top flight action?
The fact of the matter is that this plucking of high quality eSports drivers is the future of motorsport. How much cheaper is it to assemble a sim racing rig and a subscription to iRacing and take the chance then buying a midget sprint car and having to make payments and gamble out your fortune just to make it to some of these events?
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Coby’s issue with it is that in his opinion the guys who’ve spent decades pouring their blood sweat and tears into their race cars and careers are being forgotten and overlooked in favour of kids who’ve never had to work for anything and are just playing games on the computer. This is more about NASCAR’s marketing focus than it is about “esports” as a whole. They’re choosing to flood social media and spend marketing dollars on their virtual series instead of their grass roots events and short tracks. You can watch the iRacing series live on TV every week (on a weeknight to be fair) but lower tier touring series races (like the Modifieds) are shown tape delayed weeks afterwards (though they are streamed live, free last year but behind a paywall starting this year). Just saying this as to where he’s coming from. He’s not completely ignorant, he feels like he and the thousands of racers like him are being overlooked for the newest fad. It’s also arguable that this is just salt over never getting a chance in the major leagues of NASCAR despite winning multiple championships in the minor leagues.
I’ve made my feelings on esports clear, but my problems are with the spectators and the people funding it, not the participants. They’re just taking advantage of this broken society we live in. But it’s not even debatable that it’ll be around far longer than grassroots oval racing (especially on asphalt). It’s rapidly dying (and unwilling to adapt to the times) and guys like Coby should enjoy being able to make a living off of it while they can.
I’ve made my feelings on esports clear, but my problems are with the spectators and the people funding it, not the participants. They’re just taking advantage of this broken society we live in. But it’s not even debatable that it’ll be around far longer than grassroots oval racing (especially on asphalt). It’s rapidly dying (and unwilling to adapt to the times) and guys like Coby should enjoy being able to make a living off of it while they can.
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And that's about as ignorant of a statement than if I were to say "Oval racing isn't real racing because all you're doing is going around in an oblong circle."
Many of these "games on the computer" have actually allowed for people, otherwise incapable, to enter actual motorsports and discover they have talent. Hell, as much as I otherwise don't care to pay attention to it, look at GT Academy. Instead of embracing it and exploiting it for all its worth, he's throwing a childish hissy fit.
- 1,998
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I should’ve put quotes around it, it’s not how I feel.
NASCAR likes to superficially cling to fads more than most racing series (mostly because of their struggle to attract young viewers) hence how the entire industry surrounding it almost overnight and many years late embraced Twitter in about 2011 or 2012. Now last year they decided to jump on the esports bandwagon, but because this is NASCAR, it’s almost being treated as a sideshow act and literally zero of the people participating in these events have a chance of a real racing opportunity. Its not like other series where there’s actually teams willing to take risks on some of the players, in NASCAR it’s just there to keep up appearances.
Ty Majeski got a chance through his iRacing exploits, but that was years ago, and William Byron is often pointed to as a “sim racer” but he has millions of dollars from a religious university funding him, he would’ve gotten there either way.
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Not all of us live in Alabama (thank god) and have access to a "local short track". I guess we should just not participate in racing of any kind? NASCAR, aside from a brief moment in the 90s, has always been a regional thing here in the U.S. It has little popularity outside of the South and a couple other spots that have tracks. Sadly, closed minded fools like this guy aren't helping matters. They should be doing everything they can to bring people in, including NASCAR eSports anything.
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Unless you live in Antarctica, there’s a race track (oval, road course, drag strip, disused airport, whatever) somewhere around you and grassroots events happening. There’s still local racing to support wherever you are.
Joey D
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It sounds like he's just mad that he's been in NASCAR some 18 years and is still meddling around in one of its "minor leagues". Maybe if he picked up iRacing he could improve his racing by turning some laps at home.
It sounds like he's just mad that he's been in NASCAR some 18 years and is still meddling around in one of its "minor leagues". Maybe if he picked up iRacing he could improve his racing by turning some laps at home.
Moby45
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You do understand that talent is not how you get to the big leagues right? Anybody who understands how auto racing works would know that its money is the only way to make it to the upper levels. While talent is helpful at retaining your ride in the upper level, you still have to have money first.
Silver Arrows
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Even in a forum where people should know better, these sorts of ignorant comments are made. Grow up, all of you. Truly embarrassing.
Not even that. Short tracks as a whole are closing all across the US, as the families and small organizations that run them can't keep up with the upkeep, the costs needed to keep them operational. If you're somebody who wants to run quarter midgets or short track or whatever, these places are closing, and factor in the costs of keeping the vehicles maintained, fuel and lodgings, etc, you're sinking money into a pit for no real gain unless you have the talent. How much cheaper would it be to run an iRacing subscription with the cars you need, and a decent sim racing set up? Certainly a lot more, especially if you don't live near a short track.
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Brian Keselowski went overboard.
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Ah 🤬 here we go again but to be fair i wasen't expecting any better from Nascar drivers . Are Nascars still using 4 speed gearboxes 
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Yep, still using the old 4 speed. Brian Keselowski is irrelevant and has no ground to stand on.Ah 🤬 here we go again but to be fair i wasen't expecting any better from Nascar drivers . Are Nascars still using 4 speed gearboxes
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Ah 🤬 here we go again but to be fair i wasen't expecting any better from Nascar drivers . Are Nascars still using 4 speed gearboxes
2021 IS THE YEAR! MOVING UP TO 6 GEARS!
...well at least the top level Cup series, anyway.
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2021 IS THE YEAR! MOVING UP TO 6 GEARS!
...well at least the top level Cup series, anyway.
really?
only took them what ? 50 years .
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Gotta be honest, I don't disagree with him, especially about getting down to your local track to actually support motorsport.
Also, lol at the anti-NASCAR snobbery, predictable. At this point in time, I've still got a lot more respect for people that climb into 4 speed race cars and race around in circles, putting their health and wealth on the line, than I do sim-racers that complain about steering wheel animations breaking the immersion.
Also, lol at the anti-NASCAR snobbery, predictable. At this point in time, I've still got a lot more respect for people that climb into 4 speed race cars and race around in circles, putting their health and wealth on the line, than I do sim-racers that complain about steering wheel animations breaking the immersion.
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I wouldn't really call this guy a "NASCAR racer". I've been a NASCAR fan for well over 20 years and never heard of him.
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Well now your comment isen't less snobby or ignorant.
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Now that's plain wrong as well as extremely rude. All the turning left must've flipped his brain around 
Silver Arrows
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Pot, meet kettle.
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Did he seriously liken school shootings happening because people think they're fit to do so after playing an FPS? That is so above and beyond a rational rebuttal, it's full on pathetic. And, to him, they're the ones that need help? Sweet Jesus, I don't care for Twitter or any kind of social media to be honest, but after saying that? I hope everyone worth a damn rips him a new one. Endlessly. To the point where he either makes his account private, or outright deletes it.
That's just profoundly insensitive, all because someone obviously hit a little too close to home with a Twitter comment.
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