500PP Non-Racing Car Super Lap: Big Willow
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- 3,804
- Ustaritz
- Jejechris
- 3,052
- England
- kilesa4568
I've missed five or six chances at a 1.19 and it's driving me nuts. I keep weight shifting too much (ham fisted steering) through the Balcony and turn 5, losing a few 10ths every time and compromising my run down to turn 6.
1.20.278 after about 30 laps. 25 laps more than I usually do on these damn time trials. I could probably get the 19 with AS on but nobody on my friends list uses it and I guess it wouldn't be fair.
Where's the new quick matches when you need them? I'm bored of racing against ghost lines.
1.20.278 after about 30 laps. 25 laps more than I usually do on these damn time trials. I could probably get the 19 with AS on but nobody on my friends list uses it and I guess it wouldn't be fair.
Where's the new quick matches when you need them? I'm bored of racing against ghost lines.
- 6
- Brazil
- L3ON4RDO-787B
My time. 1.18.706
91 91
4,60 4,52
3 3
5 5
7 7
0,0 0,0
0,54 0,02
Break 6 4
Lsd.7 30 7
Gearbox.
5000, 180km
4847
3593
2946
2475
2137
1830
Final 3,210
Downforce 20
183kg 13
91 91
4,60 4,52
3 3
5 5
7 7
0,0 0,0
0,54 0,02
Break 6 4
Lsd.7 30 7
Gearbox.
5000, 180km
4847
3593
2946
2475
2137
1830
Final 3,210
Downforce 20
183kg 13
- 6
- Brazil
- L3ON4RDO-787B
Sorry.
Weight of the ballast 162kg
Position of the ballast +13
Weight of the ballast 162kg
Position of the ballast +13
- 642
- Kissimmee, Florida
- wedjim
Got this one down to a 1.21.2xx. Felt easy, but pushing any harder leads to much slower times. You guys in the low 1.20's and teens are amazing. I've probably already done 100 laps or more and can't find much more. There might be .5 on the table, but certainly not 2 seconds for me.
Nice work fast guys! (Tipping my hat)
Nice work fast guys! (Tipping my hat)
- 3,052
- England
- kilesa4568
Have you tried Ed_Night's tune wedjim? Holds the line nicely and the gearbox is spot on. I thought the diff was a bit sharp but after a good few laps, it felt nice and precise. I'm thinking of dropping the ride height 5-10mm to see if I can stop myself weight shifting too much through the Balcony (those corners are a nightmare for me) but I don't know if it'll compromise the rest of the track.
Time will tell as I've told myself I have to do another 20 laps to try and get the elusive 19. Itching to try it but getting seriously distracted by the Euros and Glastonbury on TV.
Time will tell as I've told myself I have to do another 20 laps to try and get the elusive 19. Itching to try it but getting seriously distracted by the Euros and Glastonbury on TV.
- 1,590
- IL
- shoenboggie
Good little tune you got going there Mateus, I'm now down to a 1:20.015.
So close to the 19's.
So close to the 19's.
- 642
- Kissimmee, Florida
- wedjim
I tried Mateus' tune, but couldn't get good laps with it. I had better success with more rear toe, LSD at 5/8/7, moving the ballast way forward and softer damping. 2/2, 2/3.
I got my best time with combining the two actually.
- 1,590
- IL
- shoenboggie
Use an American icon car for this U.S. track to make it more challenging to get gold than the concept car. Cobra 427 '66
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Good idea.
- 1,590
- IL
- shoenboggie
Made some tweaks to Mateus Paulos tune for a 1:19.904 another .100 improvement for me.
91/88
4.60/4.60
2/2
4/4
7/7
0.00/0.00
-.45/.04
Brake 4/2
Diff 7/20/10
Ballast 183 kg at +13
I'm shifting at 10K feels right for me and this high power ban.
Smooth is fast, especially that damn last turn/turn 9.
91/88
4.60/4.60
2/2
4/4
7/7
0.00/0.00
-.45/.04
Brake 4/2
Diff 7/20/10
Ballast 183 kg at +13
I'm shifting at 10K feels right for me and this high power ban.
Smooth is fast, especially that damn last turn/turn 9.
- 59
- Germany
- GTRP_strachi
Thats it.The end of AS.Its really completly different.And fast.I practised this morning without AS taking Mateausz set.2hours and was able to make a
1:19.657.The speed in corners is impressiv.Never understand following the gosts of the aliens the line they took,especially the last corner in this TT.
The fastest AS driver is Hans Dampf.He really is great.A top setup builder too.But he cant beat the advantage of driving without AS.I guess at least 3-4 tens.
My question to somebody who knows GT Sport.Same diffrence in that game???Please let me know.I would love to join the Academy this year just for fun ofcause.Looking forward to any answers you have for me.Thank you,
yours Michael.
1:19.657.The speed in corners is impressiv.Never understand following the gosts of the aliens the line they took,especially the last corner in this TT.
The fastest AS driver is Hans Dampf.He really is great.A top setup builder too.But he cant beat the advantage of driving without AS.I guess at least 3-4 tens.
My question to somebody who knows GT Sport.Same diffrence in that game???Please let me know.I would love to join the Academy this year just for fun ofcause.Looking forward to any answers you have for me.Thank you,
yours Michael.
- 59
- Germany
- GTRP_strachi
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Thank you ED.But after the 2 hours without AS i switched to AS with my set.Undrivible :-)Possible iam stupid.What about GT Sport???
My impression its easier to build a good set for without than for with AS.
The feedback of the car is more honest.
My impression its easier to build a good set for without than for with AS.
The feedback of the car is more honest.
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- 59
- Germany
- GTRP_strachi
Pardon,sorry for this.English,sure,blackout.Especially now :-)
Funny i thought GTSport people play it already on the plasie 4.
So really,you think there is no big difference in with or without AS.
Tomorrow i will drive your set.I am sure you tried Mateausx set already.
Thanks Ed for explaining.
Funny i thought GTSport people play it already on the plasie 4.
So really,you think there is no big difference in with or without AS.
Tomorrow i will drive your set.I am sure you tried Mateausx set already.
Thanks Ed for explaining.
- 642
- Kissimmee, Florida
- wedjim
The AS vs non AS debate will rage on forever I suppose.
But like Ed pointed out, the settings have to be adjusted to take advantage of it. I've tried it without screwing up my tune and it slowed me down, a lot! Car got quirky, darty and unpredictable. I could feel the software trying to drive it for me.
This made me not want to adjust my tune, because I prefer to drive the car myself.
But that's me, doesn't make it wrong or right. Just prefer to avoid the B-spec feel.
But like Ed pointed out, the settings have to be adjusted to take advantage of it. I've tried it without screwing up my tune and it slowed me down, a lot! Car got quirky, darty and unpredictable. I could feel the software trying to drive it for me.
This made me not want to adjust my tune, because I prefer to drive the car myself.
But that's me, doesn't make it wrong or right. Just prefer to avoid the B-spec feel.
- 59
- Germany
- GTRP_strachi
Thank you wedjim,but lets become sereios.Lets speak about facts.
1.In 96% of TT drivers which do not use AS are in the top 10.The only
one which drives with it is germanies Hans Dampf.
2.To handle the car without needs more skill .Means steering,keeping the
line and breaking is more difficult and forces the driver to evoid mistakes.
One little mistake and you can start the lap again.Means less mistakes
faster laptimes.And faster better results in practise and set building.
3.We know any other helps like traktion control etc.slows down.
4.Its a pc game.Its programmed,possible of somebody who is a bad driver.He has drivers to help him writing the program.Racedrivers he ask them:Are you able to drive as fast with AS?What would they say??.
(I was a real race driver 50 years ago).I tell you AS has to take feeling
away otherwise its a bad program.
And last not least.I will begin to drive without even i am 7o and have dry
maculat degeneration.65% less sight.And
part of the game is to understand building a set which fits you and your skills.Its fun and forces you to think which keeps you young.
By the way,last week i lost one of my oldest friends in Gt6 friendshiplist.
i always gave him my setups.Twice i asked him for a favor to give an old
steering wheel to a friend of mine,he wanted the little money first etc.
I told him the set is not mine,cant give it to him.It was a test.5min.later
he quit me the friendship Can you imagine.I really do not need friends like
this.
So to built good setups is part of the game.Have fun and enjoy.
yours Michael
1.In 96% of TT drivers which do not use AS are in the top 10.The only
one which drives with it is germanies Hans Dampf.
2.To handle the car without needs more skill .Means steering,keeping the
line and breaking is more difficult and forces the driver to evoid mistakes.
One little mistake and you can start the lap again.Means less mistakes
faster laptimes.And faster better results in practise and set building.
3.We know any other helps like traktion control etc.slows down.
4.Its a pc game.Its programmed,possible of somebody who is a bad driver.He has drivers to help him writing the program.Racedrivers he ask them:Are you able to drive as fast with AS?What would they say??.
(I was a real race driver 50 years ago).I tell you AS has to take feeling
away otherwise its a bad program.
And last not least.I will begin to drive without even i am 7o and have dry
maculat degeneration.65% less sight.And
part of the game is to understand building a set which fits you and your skills.Its fun and forces you to think which keeps you young.
By the way,last week i lost one of my oldest friends in Gt6 friendshiplist.
i always gave him my setups.Twice i asked him for a favor to give an old
steering wheel to a friend of mine,he wanted the little money first etc.
I told him the set is not mine,cant give it to him.It was a test.5min.later
he quit me the friendship Can you imagine.I really do not need friends like
this.
So to built good setups is part of the game.Have fun and enjoy.
yours Michael
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