6th Gen Chevrolet Camaro: 2017 ZL1, Z/28

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I was watching MotorWeek this morning when I saw their piece on the 2016 Camaro. Suffice to say, I like its blend of retro and modern. The newer Camaro manages to mix both without much compromise either way. I mean... I dig it. The Camaro holds a special place in my heart because it was the 4th Generation Camaros that got me into cars back in 1998 or so. This 6th-gen Camaro is modern while not being too modern-retro (not that there is a problem with being retro). Even things like the daytime running lights and low profile styling elements make me love this car. I'm tickled pink by the new Camaro.
 
One thing I don't understand is, that there's a ton of coverage for the SS and V6 but next to none for the new turbo. Why make it if you're not going to put an effort to marketing it?
 
CTznOfTime
Because the turbo will sell for itself...

The turbo 4 will be the real pony...

The more potent engines are for the "real" men and women,and these people (including myself) need to be reminded of their lack of confidence...
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Clarify? I'm not following you here.
 
Leonidae@MFT
One thing I don't understand is, that there's a ton of coverage for the SS and V6 but next to none for the new turbo. Why make it if you're not going to put an effort to marketing it?
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Because GM's turbo 4 is junk compared to Ford's (hence why stripper models get it compared to stripper model Mustangs getting the V6), and Ford's already isn't as good as Ford pretends it is.
 
Tornado
Because GM's turbo 4 is junk compared to Ford's (hence why stripper models get it compared to stripper model Mustangs getting the V6), and Ford's already isn't as good as Ford pretends it is.
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Nonsense! The Ford turbo is perfectly fine.

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I mean, who doesn't enjoy several seconds of throttle over-run when you lift off the gas in traffic? :D I give those things maybe five years before people start replacing electronic sensors and actuators en masse due to wear and tear...
 
niky
Nonsense! The Ford turbo is perfectly fine.

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I mean, who doesn't enjoy several seconds of throttle over-run when you lift off the gas in traffic? :D I give those things maybe five years before people start replacing electronic sensors and actuators en masse due to wear and tear...
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This is exactly why I hate "drive-by"anything..
 
1LE packages revealed before their debut this weekend in Chicago.

http://www.carscoops.com/2016/02/2017-chevrolet-camaro-1le-packages-beef.html

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I really dig the idea of the 1LE V6. If it is already secretly the better option, adding that 1LE package for not much more makes a lot of sense if you plan to get the most of the handling and performance. I'd be curious to know how the FE3 suspension is on rough roads.
 
I agree, I like the idea of adding that kind of performance package to the cheaper model. I mean, the performance of the V6 model is still pretty decent imo and it should still be a great track car with this package thrown on.

Also, I've recently seen a couple of the new Camaros around town. The look is starting to grow on me. Though, I still think it looks too much like the outgoing Camaro.
 
The Camaro is the ultimate cock tease. Its V6 is an incredible engine, but the worst part about it is that you can get a V8.
 
'16 SS vs '15 BMW M4

Performance:
MotorTrend
It’s a virtual tie to 60 mph, the BMW needing 4.2 seconds and the Chevy taking 4.1 seconds. Same story in the quarter mile: Camaro in 12.4 seconds at 115.8 mph, M4 in 12.5 seconds at 116.5 mph. What about the figure eight? Both contenders came in at 24.1 seconds even though the Camaro’s average lateral acceleration is 1.01 g compared to 1.00 g for the M4. The wheelbases are identical: 110.7 inches each. We had Randy Pobst lap each around the Streets of Willow: 1:22.94 for the BMW, 1:23.15 for the Chevy. Confession time: Due to an oversight on our end, the BMW was lapped with only half a tank of premium. Our standard testing procedure is to test and lap all cars with full tanks. Assuming 7 gallons were missing, that’s about 40 pounds. We asked our SCCA Hall of Fame buddy what difference 40 pounds makes on a racetrack. “Maybe a tenth,” Pobst said. Apologies to Camaro Nation, but our point about these two cars being near indistinguishable performers remains. You Ford fans? The new Mustang GT takes 1:24.32.
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Price as tested:
'16 Camaro SS - $46,095
'15 BMW M4 - $77,495
 
Shame that Chevrolet pulled out of the UK market as I would love to see a RHD variant of the new Camaro now that the Mustang is here.
 
YSSMAN
I really dig the idea of the 1LE V6. If it is already secretly the better option, adding that 1LE package for not much more makes a lot of sense if you plan to get the most of the handling and performance. I'd be curious to know how the FE3 suspension is on rough roads.
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In the SS vs M4 article by MotorTrend they say they prefer the standard suspension over the MR shocks on the SS. (FE3 is standard on the SS)
 
I hope the refresh does something about that ghastly rear end. I love what the new Camaro is as a car. Just can't stand that it's so ugly. As for that M4 comparison, the Camaro did its time on run flat Eagle F1s. Put both cars on 19in Pilot Super Sports and I think the Chevy would make the beemer bend the knee.
 

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