82nd Running Of The Le Mans 24 Hours - 14/15 June 2014.

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Just woke up. My alarm didn't sound at the time I set. :banghead:
What did I miss?

The whole race.

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Maybe the Ferrari was already much slower than the Toyota, I have no idea.
But I rather listen to the official sources, than trusting replays where you can't see anything.
And again, the Toyota's rear was damaged, a slight touch won't leave extreme visible marks on these cars anyway.
But if the Ferrari was much slower it can't have hit the Toyota from behind, the damage on the rear of the Toyota is probably from one of the hits with the barrier when it was spinning down the straight.

I think its more likely that Lapierre had aquaplaning (like Chandhok was talking about in the second storm) and assumed he had been hit because he was on intermediates.
 
Really? Most here wish that Audi fails and all three cars DNF, but if someone says the same about Toyota it suddently is "not nice"?
Because a dominant team kills the sport for most people. Just look at Red Bull (although nowadays it's Merc, a prime example of the stupidity of this mentality) in F1.
 
Love the LMP2 battle, wish there was a way to have each class have it's own coverage, so you could tune into whatever you want to watch. Then you could watch it without cut-aways.

ACO take note.
 
Really? Most here wish that Audi fails and all three cars DNF, but if someone says the same about Toyota it suddently is "not nice"?
Toyota didn't won a gazillion of LeMans races almost consecutively. If Toyota manage a win it would have been like David vs. Golia. I know some people always cheers for the richest and strongest but still.
Love the LMP2 battle, wish there was a way to have each class have it's own coverage, so you could tune into whatever you want to watch. Then you could watch it without cut-aways.

ACO take note.
I guess they prefer you watch Audi advertising over and over again.
 
Power Steering issues for #95??? :banghead:

Toyota didn't won a gazillion of LeMans races consecutively or almost. If they manage a win it would have been like David vs. Golia. I know some people always cheers for the richest and strongers but still.

Ohhh come on, that's just not true. A David Vs. Goliath story would've been Pescarolo Sport beating both of them, or Rebellion Racing. Toyota a "David"? Did David had the budget of one of the world's most massive manufacturers? Did David had a cheat rear wing assembly? Was David the fastest car on track in qualifying and had the fastest laptime? Did David had the HUUUUUUUUUGE facilites of TMG at Cologne? Was David operating with one of France's leading racing organizations, Oreca, and with some of France's fastest drivers? 👎

I love an underdog story as much as anyone else, if not more, but it's a stretch calling Toyota an underdog. They haven't won yet, that's one thing but they have all the resources to do it.
 
That's rubbish, it even hit the armco with its left rear, heck the spoiler was hanging down on one side.
You can't tell if he lost control because of a touch or not from the footage at all.
If the 458 hit the Toyota to initiate the incident, he must've been going faster than the #8, hit the back of him, decelerated in a thousandth of a second, stood still on track, gone back in time down the Mulsanne, accelerated to 150mph, and reappeared 5 seconds later.

Because that happened :rolleyes:

You mean the footage where you can't see anything at all other than cars flying left or right?
Sorry, but both Lapierre and Leupen (the teamboss) confirmed the car got hit by a GTE car and the only one close enough was the Ferrari.
Let's do frame by frame...

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Toyota flies in way too fast, note no rear damage.

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Toyota hits front first. We see the front here. Audi to the left, Aston to the very left.

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Ferrari appears now, going stupidly fast. Back of Toyota visible, tail lights of the Audi are visible too.

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Toyota sideways. About to spin with the front facing us. You can clearly see a large gap between the front of the Ferrari and the back Of that Toyota, and the Ferrari is heading straight into the Audi's path. In order for the Ferrari to have caused the Toyota to crash, he would have had to defy physics.

Since the Toyota had his nose on the wall, the only way the Ferrari could've caused the rear wing damage (even though it was blatantly the wall collision) was if the Ferrari was coming the other way down the Mulsanne.

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Wing damage = driver's left only. Wall contact = drivers left only.
 
Because a dominant team kills the sport for most people. Just look at Red Bull (although nowadays it's Merc, a prime example of the stupidity of this mentality) in F1.
Well that's how sport is. The best team get's the victory. And Audi is the team that puts more hard work, time and passion into their Le Mans cars than any other team.
 
Well that's how sport is. The best team get's the victory. And Audi is the team that puts more hard work, time and passion into their Le Mans cars than any other team.
I never said otherwise. I was answering your question
 
Toyota didn't won a gazillion of LeMans races almost consecutively. If Toyota manage a win it would have been like David vs. Golia. I know some people always cheers for the richest and strongest but still.

I guess they prefer you watch Audi advertising over and over again.

Toyota being the Golia, right?

Do you know that they are the biggest car company of the world?
 
I'm not saying the rearwing damage was from a contact, I'm just saying you can't say the car didn't have any damage on the rear at all. It's possible the Ferrari (or whatever) hit the Toyota slightly on the left rear and Lapierre lost control of that. Again, if both the driver and the teamboss say the car got hit, it got hit, from whatever.
 
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