83rd Running Of The Le Mans 24 Hours - 13/14 June 2015.

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TheBook
My prediction for Nissan: One car will retire in the first three hours, one will retire sometime just after the sun rises, the third will finish four or five laps down from the winner.
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mustafur
My guess is 2 will retire very quickly and 1 car will make it to the end.
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I'll go ahead and predict all DNF and at least one catches fire. :) Not that I'm hoping that will happen (it'd be nice to have four viable contending teams), but if it happened last year to Toyota—who seemed to have put together a much better car—I have very little optimism that Nissan will do better this year. The car sounds like it's a mess.

Granted, I had low expectations for the thing when I first heard that they were running it as FWD because they couldn't get the AWD system working.

Still, they could surprise me. I don't think they have any chance of winning, but maybe one of them will make it to the podium.

psychoazubi
4 or 5 laps down would feel like a victory for them. They were slower than GTE cars in some corners and I don't expect them to go much faster because it will burn their tyres after 4-5 laps. The front tyres need to handle nearly all braking, accelerating and cornering...I just can't imagine how that should work.
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Yeah, FWD isn't often used in racing for a reason. It's less "radical" and more "a bad idea."

But, ya know, maybe they'll surprise us. Somehow.

mister dog
Here no?:

http://members.fiawec.com/liveSignUp

Get member access and select the Le Mans package below? I suppose once you pay for the access you have the streams? Or that is what i'm hoping on at least as i want to buy it this week.
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Oooh, that looks promising. Though it's odd that the Le Mans website doesn't mention it, nor does that seem to explain what's included in the "Le Mans 2015 Race Pack." But I emailed their questions account—we'll see what they say. (In case anyone was wondering, €10 ≈ US$11.19 right now.)
 
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I dont think weve seen anything from Nissan thats definitive of their pace. Theyre taking one thing at a time. I also think Toyota are doing the same by just focusing on other things besides pushing for fast times.
 
RobertM525
Yeah, FWD isn't often used in racing for a reason. It's less "radical" and more "a bad idea."
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Normally said by people that don't have the skills required to drive them properly.

RobertM525
Oooh, that looks promising. Though it's odd that the Le Mans website doesn't mention it, nor does that seem to explain what's included in the "Le Mans 2015 Race Pack." But I emailed their questions account—we'll see what they say. (In case anyone was wondering, €10 ≈ US$11.19 right now.)
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For $10, I might just give in and pay it. As long as it's a good quality stream.
 
R1600Turbo
For $10, I might just give in and pay it. As long as it's a good quality stream.
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It's awesome. You won't regret it.

mister dog
Here no?:

http://members.fiawec.com/liveSignUp

Get member access and select the Le Mans package below? I suppose once you pay for the access you have the streams? Or that is what i'm hoping on at least as i want to buy it this week.
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Yep. Just like that (you can also do it via mobile app). Last year, their coverage streamed all the practices and qualifying sessions. Should be the same this time.
 
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RobertM525
Oooh, that looks promising. Though it's odd that the Le Mans website doesn't mention it, nor does that seem to explain what's included in the "Le Mans 2015 Race Pack." But I emailed their questions account—we'll see what they say. (In case anyone was wondering, €10 ≈ US$11.19 right now.)
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So there is a way for us USD using Americans to purchase this as well right? They can convert at checkout or something correct?
 
Whodoyouthink
So there is a way for us USD using Americans to purchase this as well right? They can convert at checkout or something correct?
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No idea. I assume. I've seen similar things do that before. No idea what exchange rate they'd have for it, though (what I quoted above is the interbank exchange rate—the quoted "typical credit card rate" makes it US$11.4621 for €10). It may also depend on your payment method (I'm not sure what options they offer).
 
RobertM525
Yeah, FWD isn't often used in racing for a reason. It's less "radical" and more "a bad idea."
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I tried to write a comment why this post gave me a headache, but instead:
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So I'm clearly getting a lot of hate for suggesting there's a reason almost no high-performance sports- or racecars are FWD. I guess it's just a coincidence—or stupidity on the part of all the automotive engineers that designed those cars—that FWD is so rare outside or small, inexpensive/low performance cars.

I mean, all of you who are defending this realize that Nissan only resorted to FWD because they couldn't get their AWD system to work, right? It wasn't a deliberate design choice, made at the outset, because it's such a good configuration. I mean, kudos to them if they pull it off, but FWD presents some serious design/driving hurdles.
 
RobertM525
So I'm clearly getting a lot of hate for suggesting there's a reason almost no high-performance sports- or racecars are FWD. I guess it's just a coincidence—or stupidity on the part of all the automotive engineers that designed those cars—that FWD is so rare outside or small, inexpensive/low performance cars.

I mean, all of you who are defending this realize that Nissan only resorted to FWD because they couldn't get their AWD system to work, right? It wasn't a deliberate design choice, made at the outset, because it's such a good configuration. I mean, kudos to them if they pull it off, but FWD presents some serious design/driving hurdles.
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Considering the achievments with differentials etc. it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
 
RobertM525
So I'm clearly getting a lot of hate for suggesting there's a reason almost no high-performance sports- or racecars are FWD. I guess it's just a coincidence—or stupidity on the part of all the automotive engineers that designed those cars—that FWD is so rare outside or small, inexpensive/low performance cars.

I mean, all of you who are defending this realize that Nissan only resorted to FWD because they couldn't get their AWD system to work, right? It wasn't a deliberate design choice, made at the outset, because it's such a good configuration. I mean, kudos to them if they pull it off, but FWD presents some serious design/driving hurdles.
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In theory it should work well, once they get the drive ratios sorted for the car and calibrated the TC and hybrid system in tune with the downforce of the car it should corner like a house fly, and it should be capable of running far lower downforce then any of its competitors so it will have straight line advantage as well,
 
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Considering the achievments with differentials etc. it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
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In testing so far haven't the Nissans shown themselves to be incredibly fast in a straight line but also slower than the GTE Am cars in the corners? That, in other words, they have problems with cornering—exactly the sort of thing FWD cars usually have a problem with (because of weight transfer and the tires responsible for steering are also responsible for putting the power down)?

But, as I said, maybe Nissan will surprise me and end up getting the kinks worked out of the car, qualifying well, and performing well in the race.
 
They were told not to push it in the corners weren't they? Besides, just practice. I personally am reserving judgement until they actually go at it.
 
RobertM525
...Nissan only resorted to FWD because they couldn't get their AWD system to work, right? It wasn't a deliberate design choice, made at the outset, because it's such a good configuration.
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From the start, the car was designed to be AWD on corner exits using the hybrid system, and FWD the rest of the time.
RobertM525
In testing so far haven't the Nissans shown themselves to be incredibly fast in a straight line but also slower than the GTE Am cars in the corners?
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Who says they were even trying?
 
Well it succeeds so well in achieving visual confusion it's actually giving me a headache just looking at it!

I can't say i'm a fan, it looks like a spammed livery from the forza 2 days.
 

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