A month later, your opinion on GTSport?

[JamesB]

I waited a month before buying and so far have only had about 7 or so hours playing.

My views:

Livery editor is great. In fact, I reckon I've spent more time tinkering with liveries than racing

Only had a couple of races in the daily race 'A' so far, but pretty good feel to them. But what is the 15-minute wait to start a race about?
Disappointed by the inability to mod cars. I knew this was a slimmed down GT, but seriously? I wanted the option to add exhausts and ported heads and all the other bits that made the other GT games great.

Car selection is a bit weak, but I'm hoping that can be addressed by DLC. I'm hoping PD take note of fan's criticisms and tinker with the game, because I'd love to see some of the classic features back in GT Sport.

All in all, for the 40% off price, not bad at all.

 

[Max_HP]

Like others have pointed, GT Sport has a good foundation to build upon.
We already know of the planned DLC and free content due soon.
But what I'm thrilled about is the decal uploader. The possibilities are endless.
Plus GT League will be upon us in a few days.
I just can't get over the realism of the cars.
PD have done an awesome job.

 

[Sander 001]

Your argument would have validity if there were current and known controversies going on...say reports from Slightly Mad Studios or other competitors, that emp's were being overworked and abused. To my knowledge that isnt the case and the generalization of an issue in the industry as a whole, used as an excuse for PD's lack of content doesnt hold up well. Not to mention overworked 'bad practices' extends to much more than just the gaming industry. My field (accounting), its not absurd to avg 90hrs/week for months at a time. However if PDs competitors ever come out with reports of significant abuse in this regard...we can for sure look back and say, it cost us some content, but at least they (PD) were better to their emp's, and your point would then have legitimate merit.

Regardless, the news drop the other day about the new content coming Nov through March is awesome and promising! I stand by my original post that Im grateful PD chose to build from what theyve done with Sport, despite the sacrifices its meant, vs continuing the formula since GT4.

But your generalization is fine and dandy? Hilarious.
No, we don’t need specific reports of abuse because you’re not the arbiter of whatever you’re trying to anoint yourself as and the labor exploitation in gaming are well known and pervasive. They are the norm.

 

[CSLACR]

You bought a dictionary. Nice.

As for the rest of your post, I'm not even gonna bother. It ranges from putting words in my mouth to blatantly misrepresenting what you previously said. All good. Based on your past posts I had no better expectations.

Yes, I bought a dictionary and used a word for the past 5+ years on GTP randomly just to show off to you. It was all for you.
I'm sorry you had to google the word "obtuse".

It's fine.
Continue on with your extra smart console purchasing.

 

[atalayant]

I think the varying gaps are due to differences in gear ratios and issues with some gear setups. Every now and then the car thinks 4th is the smallest gear and tries to accelerate with it. If one doesnt manually shift down during autodrive, the car will accelerate slowly, leave a gap and the cars behind will suffer as they wont pass before start.

Same 4th gear issue happens with some setups after car resets back to track.



Sorry to drop the news mate, but im pretty sure it's not the update. Check the mode -led on your wheel - if it goes on and off while you turn the wheel your g29 is broken. This is common defect in g29 and you should take it for warranty swap. I had the same exact issues.

My G29 died on me, electronic problem for sure, as you have guessed! Tossed it, bought Thrustmaster T300RS GT edition. Won’t be playing the game for a week until it’s delivered, but worth the wait and its double price of G29, I hope.

 

[Odyofil]

Disaster.

 

[slowflux]

The standard of the online racing is far worse than the first week and no longer enjoyable for me. I read that there's a career mode coming, but the handling and FF on this game are worse than any other game out there and with no weather or tyre wear it's a bit of a joke to be honest. So it will be pcars and F1 for me unless the game improves. This is my first gran turismo ... and it's a load of crap.

 

[AeonGaiden]

I was actually in the hate camp as the game was coming closer to release simply because it sounded half baked compared to previous releases but I still bought it. In the end i got hooked like always but majority of my time is spent on chasing gold in "single player" and shooting in Scapes.

The online races need major fixing. I mean the time between the 3 daily races is a joke. I finish one, if im lucky the next is in 10 minutes (and it could be a rce type i couldnt care less about), most of the time i have like 20-25 mins to the next new track race because im not going to keep grinding the same track over and over.

People say its set up like this so that the lobbys are more packed but even so I still have like 6 or 8 only racers with me at times. GT is an established franchise, what are they so afraid off to keep the lobbys full. DriveClub was a brand new IP, ****** launch yet it has online races every 1 minute or less...just browse. AND if you stick to that lobby after the race you automatically go to a different track and most probably different car type selection with the same group of drivers. Its just such a smooth experience.

GTS online which is supposed to be the main thing here, feels stuck in time like getting dial up for Windows 95 compared to 50mb wireless.

I love the game, getting gold, getting daily cars, seeing that progression, painting my cars and taking pictures...all addicting and fun but i couldnt care less for the broken driver rating system or the lobby where it takes you ages to jump into a race. LITERALLY, you will be able to play a total of 3 races max in one hour in the daily lobby...and in total thats like 15 minutes of gameplay time and 45 minutes od waiting and "practicing". For me personally its a big waste of my precious time. If you gonna call yourself "online only experience", better make the experience seemless if thats your only focus.

Looking forward to the new update and whatever we get single player wise.

 

[jagenigma]

I used spotify to play the first gran turismo's ost(as many of them as I can find) while racing around in some tracks in the game, and I can say that it still has some nostalgic connection. GT hasn't lost it's soul, but gt sport is a grown up gt in comparison to the rest. Feels more serious.

 

[Haitauer]

My G29 died on me, electronic problem for sure, as you have guessed! Tossed it, bought Thrustmaster T300RS GT edition. Won’t be playing the game for a week until it’s delivered, but worth the wait and its double price of G29, I hope.

I hope you RMA that thing. 2 years of warranty i guess..

 

[VFOURMAX1]

I have bought and played Gran Turismo since the first one and in my opinion the focus has now shifted from a car collecting and modifying game to a more actual racing focused game. Sort of a Iracing comes to console in some ways.

Seems many are butt hurt because the focus seems to no longer be on classic road cars or bolting on one of a couple of different superchargers to make a totally unrealistic 950 hp 1970 Dodge Challenger road race car but rather on actual racing classes.

I personally would like to see all fictional cars to not be allowed to race within legitimate classes alongside real race cars of the class.
In other words no GR3 Beetles or Nissan GTR's.

From a personal standpoint the car collecting 15 different skylines had worn its self out. There is nothing wrong with having classics in the game and creating classes strictly for classic car racing.

The majority of the road cars is a joke as racing a VW golf around a road course with a transmission that takes so long to shift gears that you have time to go fix a cup of coffee between gear changes is not my idea of a challenging or enjoyable race.

I personally like the new focus and I hope PD continues to expand on the actual on line racing concept, continue to work on and tweak the rating system, do some major adjustments to the penalty system to make clean non contact racing be rewarded with those that dive bomb and use contact to advance, cut corners to gain time be rewarded at races end with penalties that move them to the rear of the finishing order.

The game actually now is developing into being a GOOD racing game instead of a grinding for points to collect cars game.

 

[jhall181]

I have bought and played Gran Turismo since the first one and in my opinion the focus has now shifted from a car collecting and modifying game to a more actual racing focused game. Sort of a Iracing comes to console in some ways.

Seems many are butt hurt because the focus seems to no longer be on classic road cars or bolting on one of a couple of different superchargers to make a totally unrealistic 950 hp 1970 Dodge Challenger road race car but rather on actual racing classes.

I personally would like to see all fictional cars to not be allowed to race within legitimate classes alongside real race cars of the class.
In other words no GR3 Beetles or Nissan GTR's.

From a personal standpoint the car collecting 15 different skylines had worn its self out. There is nothing wrong with having classics in the game and creating classes strictly for classic car racing.

The majority of the road cars is a joke as racing a VW golf around a road course with a transmission that takes so long to shift gears that you have time to go fix a cup of coffee between gear changes is not my idea of a challenging or enjoyable race.

I personally like the new focus and I hope PD continues to expand on the actual on line racing concept, continue to work on and tweak the rating system, do some major adjustments to the penalty system to make clean non contact racing be rewarded with those that dive bomb and use contact to advance, cut corners to gain time be rewarded at races end with penalties that move them to the rear of the finishing order.

The game actually now is developing into being a GOOD racing game instead of a grinding for points to collect cars game.

It was always a good racing game. If you want a game that is nothing but hard-core racing go play iracing or f1 or nascar. It was called the real DRIVING simulator for reason. You are not the majority of the player base and you shouldn’t be the only one they listen to.

 

[Rinsky]

I have bought and played Gran Turismo since the first one and in my opinion the focus has now shifted from a car collecting and modifying game to a more actual racing focused game. Sort of a Iracing comes to console in some ways.

Seems many are butt hurt because the focus seems to no longer be on classic road cars or bolting on one of a couple of different superchargers to make a totally unrealistic 950 hp 1970 Dodge Challenger road race car but rather on actual racing classes.

I personally would like to see all fictional cars to not be allowed to race within legitimate classes alongside real race cars of the class.
In other words no GR3 Beetles or Nissan GTR's.

From a personal standpoint the car collecting 15 different skylines had worn its self out. There is nothing wrong with having classics in the game and creating classes strictly for classic car racing.

The majority of the road cars is a joke as racing a VW golf around a road course with a transmission that takes so long to shift gears that you have time to go fix a cup of coffee between gear changes is not my idea of a challenging or enjoyable race.

I personally like the new focus and I hope PD continues to expand on the actual on line racing concept, continue to work on and tweak the rating system, do some major adjustments to the penalty system to make clean non contact racing be rewarded with those that dive bomb and use contact to advance, cut corners to gain time be rewarded at races end with penalties that move them to the rear of the finishing order.

The game actually now is developing into being a GOOD racing game instead of a grinding for points to collect cars game.

I really don't get why people think the way you do. Who fail to realize the many different ways people like to play GT and for someone who claims to have played GT from the very beginning you just don't get it. Just because people don't play it the same as you doesn't mean they don't matter.
So what if you don't like 15 different Skyline's in the game, someone else does. Others don't like 15 of the same race car in the game just with a different fiberglass body on it but that doesn't mean others don't. Anyone who is happy that GT is turning into a racing only game and getting away from being an all around car game is completely blind to what made GT successful in the first place. There have always been racing only games on the market and none of them have been Blockbuster like the car collecting GT. Why? Because GT had a huge amount of different type's of game play.

1. Car collecting
2. Car clubs
3. Car shows
4. Car cruises
5. Car of the week Clubs
6. Car dual Clubs
7. Drifting
8. Drag racing
9. Rally racing
10. Production car racing
11. Race car racing

And the list just keeps going on and on.
So keep wishing GT stays like it is and you will find yourself paying for a yearly membership to race just like iracing because there isn't enough people to support it without the extra income.
There is absolutely no reason PD couldn't have added everything in GTS to a classic GT7.

I'd almost be willing to bet more people are playing GT6 online the GTS. I wish there was a way to see the numbers.

 

[Deadheadbill]

It was always a good racing game. If you want a game that is nothing but hard-core racing go play iracing or f1 or nascar. It was called the real DRIVING simulator for reason. You are not the majority of the player base and you shouldn’t be the only one they listen to.

I read his post and didn't see where he said that?

I really don't get why people think the way you do. Who fail to realize the many different ways people like to play GT and for someone who claims to have played GT from the very beginning you just don't get it. Just because people don't play it the same as you doesn't mean they don't matter.
So what if you don't like 15 different Skyline's in the game, someone else does. Others don't like 15 of the same race car in the game just with a different fiberglass body on it but that doesn't mean others don't. Anyone who is happy that GT is turning into a racing only game and getting away from being an all around car game is completely blind to what made GT successful in the first place. There have always been racing only games on the market and none of them have been Blockbuster like the car collecting GT. Why? Because GT had a huge amount of different type's of game play.

1. Car collecting
2. Car clubs
3. Car shows
4. Car cruises
5. Car of the week Clubs
6. Car dual Clubs
7. Drifting
8. Drag racing
9. Rally racing
10. Production car racing
11. Race car racing

And the list just keeps going on and on.
So keep wishing GT stays like it is and you will find yourself paying for a yearly membership to race just like iracing because there isn't enough people to support it without the extra income.
There is absolutely no reason PD couldn't have added everything in GTS to a classic GT7.

I'd almost be willing to bet more people are playing GT6 online the GTS. I wish there was a way to see the numbers.

You both seem to have a problem with the fact that there are many many people who are completely happy with this game and are willing to give it a chance to develop into something really special.

 

[mekonrider]

Finally got it for £19 yesterday and I am utterly underwhelmed. It feels like neither one thing or another. It lacks the immediacy of Forza, the fun of Horizon and can't compete with AC or iracing for serious accolades. Having just come off Forza, AC and PC, I'm also really annoyed that I can't use my clutch. Seriously, no clutch? At least the drifing is better than Forza I suppose.

Are the graphics vastly improved on PS4 Pro as that's another aspect that underwhelmed me. No real jaw dropping like previous GT editions and I didn't think it was even any better than the original project cars. I'd have been pretty gutted if I'd paid full price for this. Feature in the fact they'll soon start dropping the DLC for stuff you really wanted in the first place, like the classic GT tracks and I'm glad it cost less than £20.

 

[GrillMeister]

I love the game, I really do, but my biggest concern with the game is the giveaway cars... I mean, u can get a car for free every day , just by driving a few kilometers.. I now have a garaga full of cars wich I dont use, and cant sell either. I would like it if u had to work harder for a giveaway car. This game would have been perfect when it started with no cars, just 20 or 30thousand credits, and buy a cheapass Peugeot or VW, and work your way up from there .

But, still enjoying the game though !

 

[Rinsky]

I read his post and didn't see where he said that?



You both seem to have a problem with the fact that there are many many people who are completely happy with this game and are willing to give it a chance to develop into something really special.

I don't have a problem with people enjoying GTS at all. Why would I? It's obviously part of the game that's been missing. What I have a problem with is everyone trying to convince people that this is the only way to play GT. Just because it's your type of game play does not mean its the only way it should be played . It was already something special that's why its been the most successful car game in history. The fact that GTS is struggling in sales should tell you something.

 

[JamesB]

The online races need major fixing. I mean the time between the 3 daily races is a joke. I finish one, if im lucky the next is in 10 minutes (and it could be a rce type i couldnt care less about), most of the time i have like 20-25 mins to the next new track race because im not going to keep grinding the same track over and over.

This is my major gripe at the moment. I didn't get in from work until 8pm (meh), sorted all the home stuff out and thought I'd crack the top of a bottle of beer and have a go on the daily races again. I've had time to log in, read, digest, comment and drink a bottle of beer while the daily race clock slowly grinds down. WTF is this about? PD, seriously, this isn't good.

 

[hznbrq]

I enjoy it as much as any past GT game but for different reasons. The absence of GT mode and tuning was really disappointing, for a while, but I got over it. In previous games I never did online racing or committed to achieving gold times; this one has taught me to enjoy those things more. I love racing online now, despite the flaws in the penalty system (very unfair at times).

I always had faith that much more content would be added...Polyphony botched the release though, and lost a lot of money and potential users.

 

[VFOURMAX1]

So what if you don't like 15 different Skyline's in the game, someone else does. Others don't like 15 of the same race car in the game just with a different fiberglass body on it but that doesn't mean others don't

If you read what I wrote you will see I said
QUOTE "From a personal standpoint the car collecting 15 different skylines had worn its self out. There is nothing wrong with having classics in the game and creating classes strictly for classic car racing." End Quote

Very plainly states this was a personal opinion and nothing wrong with having classics in the game and races for classic cars.

1. Car collecting
2. Car clubs
3. Car shows
4. Car cruises
5. Car of the week Clubs
6. Car dual Clubs
7. Drifting
8. Drag racing
9. Rally racing
10. Production car racing
11. Race car racing

The first 6 items on your list have absolutely nothing to do with Driving so why is that gameplay important to include in a game that touts itself as the real driving simulator?

It was always a good racing game. If you want a game that is nothing but hard-core racing go play iracing or f1 or nascar. It was called the real DRIVING simulator for reason. You are not the majority of the player base and you shouldn’t be the only one they listen to.

On the jacket the front states;
GRAN TURISMO
THE REAL DRIVING SIMULATOR
SPORT
INTERNET REQUIRED FOR MOST FUNCTIONALITY
On the jacket the rear states;
Introducing the worlds first Gran Turismo FIA Championships
Race and represent for your country and favorite manufacturer
Advanced Matchmaking System ensures competitive racing
Create your own exterior design with the Livery Editor

Nowhere does it say anything about what cars are included or represented, how many tracks are included or anything about the ability to modify cars. What it does plainly state is the FIA Championships, RACE and represent your country, the new matchmaking system ensures COMPETITIVE RACING and the ability to create your own exterior liveries.
The game has delivered EXACTLY what it advertises on the package to deliver. As a consumer I am happy with and enjoying the product that PD has delivered even more than past editions of Gran Turismo.

It seems that those complaining want a rehash of the old games from the past, that is not what the current GTS advertises even on its retail packaging but it seems that people that do not prefer the new format cannot stand seeing players that are perfectly happy with the new direction.
I am not the one crying that this is not the game I wanted PD to make, I just enjoy the product they created! I could care less about the "career" mode. Offline I can do any type race I want with custom races and I do realize that beating the AI for 1st place is not an accomplishment compared to racing against real live human opponents.

I do not need the game to tell me which track to race on next, I wear big boy britches and can make that choice all by myself.

 

[hznbrq]

This is my major gripe at the moment. I didn't get in from work until 8pm (meh), sorted all the home stuff out and thought I'd crack the top of a bottle of beer and have a go on the daily races again. I've had time to log in, read, digest, comment and drink a bottle of beer while the daily race clock slowly grinds down. WTF is this about? PD, seriously, this isn't good.

I think it's to encourage you to take more qualifying laps and keep improving your lap times. Also to get a good number of participants.

 

[Tekku]

I've been trying some other racing games lately just to compare to GT Sport. I played around in Assetto Corsa for a couple of hours and was very impressed with the driving model. However, everything surrounding the racing was mediocre at best and it at times felt more like a technical demonstration rather than a proper game.

I'm honestly struggling to find anything like GT Sport in the genre. It's a great mix between a competent simulation and conventional video game design and it delivers it all with a very slick presentation and a great feeling of community. When you start up the game and approach the main menu it's like stepping into a second home. On your way to the next racing experience you can listen to some great music, cruise around in the community pages, download a sweet livery, read about car history, watch some movies etc. I just love that whole style of immersing yourself in a world of cars and racing. I haven't experienced this outside of the GT series so far and it has made me realise how much I really like PD's approach to video game racing.

 

[ScottPuss20]

I don't think I've posted in this thread... Sorry if I already have.
I think that GT Sport is a great game after one month playing. I've haven't had soo much fun in any video game for years. Debate the physics all you like but I find it more entertaining than Project Cars 2.

 

[BrunusCL82]

Who really is playing the game daily, is tired of the game?

I really, in the beginning, got addicted to the Sport mode, given the competitiveness, whether in the FIA tournaments or in the daily racing mode.

But after a month, I kind of tired. The circuits are already repeating themselves too much and the worse the delay to begin the races already are bordering 40 minutes. This is very frustrating.

I keep waiting for the race to start playing on the decals, but yesterday I kicked the bucket and I got tired.

Three hours of GTS and I only played three races, each lasting ten to twenty minutes. Is that sign that the number of players is decreasing?

 

[TenderLoins]

I’m right there with you. I refuse to take part in any of the short races because they are usually a try-hard **** show.

This means 1 race an hour for the longer races. Nothing more annoying than sitting and waiting. Most nights I can maybe get in two races, and since they changed the FIA times I can only do 1-2 a week.

 

[BIGBEN]

I really don't get why people think the way you do. Who fail to realize the many different ways people like to play GT and for someone who claims to have played GT from the very beginning you just don't get it. Just because people don't play it the same as you doesn't mean they don't matter.
So what if you don't like 15 different Skyline's in the game, someone else does. Others don't like 15 of the same race car in the game just with a different fiberglass body on it but that doesn't mean others don't. Anyone who is happy that GT is turning into a racing only game and getting away from being an all around car game is completely blind to what made GT successful in the first place. There have always been racing only games on the market and none of them have been Blockbuster like the car collecting GT. Why? Because GT had a huge amount of different type's of game play.

1. Car collecting
2. Car clubs
3. Car shows
4. Car cruises
5. Car of the week Clubs
6. Car dual Clubs
7. Drifting
8. Drag racing
9. Rally racing
10. Production car racing
11. Race car racing

And the list just keeps going on and on.
So keep wishing GT stays like it is and you will find yourself paying for a yearly membership to race just like iracing because there isn't enough people to support it without the extra income.
There is absolutely no reason PD couldn't have added everything in GTS to a classic GT7.

I'd almost be willing to bet more people are playing GT6 online the GTS. I wish there was a way to see the numbers.

It's been a month, and although I was bashing GT Sport long before release (and still am) I have really been enjoying the game. I think the lack of a proper iteration into the GT series (GT7) will be made up for in the long run. They've already stated that the car count will triple with a year and as I called it around release, they are infact bringing in a full solo classic style racing league/series with 1.06.

I'll admit it was getting stale quick the past couple weeks, but I think we just need to be patient and see what GT Sport can evolve into. I honestly think that within a year, GT Sport will have no doubt become the GT7 we were wanting.

 

[Mr P]

I enjoy it a lot, The physics are really sweet and the mind blowing graphics keep amazing me with the different times settings at certain tracks

There is a But!... I don't really have the superlong sessions like I did in previous GT games, I tend to race for shorter sessions whilst hot lapping? I know others have said it also and it's true.. it's all due to track availability and repetitive cycles with the daily TT events unfortunately.
I know we are getting a mega add on coming from PD tomorrow but there's no mention of any new or old tracks coming anytime soon? Hopefully with some new tracks and other goodies via DLC we can fix the repeat cycle problem

Include these tracks in an update... Midfield Raceway, Spa Francorchamps, Grand Valley, Swiss Alps, Citta di Aria and Complex String and this would be for me the best GT game EVER!! 👍

 

[BrunusCL82]

I enjoy it a lot, The physics are really sweet and the mind blowing graphics keep amazing me with the different times settings at certain tracks

There is a But!... I don't really have the superlong sessions like I did in previous GT games, I tend to race for shorter sessions whilst hot lapping? I know others have said it also and it's true.. it's all due to track availability and repetitive cycles with the daily TT events unfortunately.
I know we are getting a mega add on coming from PD tomorrow but there's no mention of any new or old tracks coming anytime soon? Hopefully with some new tracks and other goodies via DLC we can fix the repeat cycle problem

Include these tracks in an update... Midfield Raceway, Spa Francorchamps, Grand Valley, Swiss Alps, Citta di Aria and Complex String and this would be for me the best GT game EVER!! 👍

I think Polyphony too lazy and incredibly slow. It seems amateurish. They work when they want. I'm very annoyed and I do not accept GTS to have only 17 circuits. This is absurd

 

[hznbrq]

Include these tracks in an update... Midfield Raceway, Spa Francorchamps, Grand Valley, Swiss Alps, Citta di Aria and Complex String and this would be for me the best GT game EVER!! 👍

Grand Valley is a must along with Autumn Ring...

 

[BrunusCL82]

Grand Valley is a must along with Autumn Ring...

All original classics circuits are a must along.