A-spec Expert Level Historic Racing Car Challenge: Mount Panorama Motor Racing Circuit

[coryclifford]

Yeah, the stock GT40 at 562 PP is proving to be a great challenge. I can get P2 so far, but not the win yet. Good stuff.

 

[ApexDrift123]

Bought the 2J and luckily I got no AI 2J on the grid . Had to de-tune the 2J or I wasent allowed to enter the race . Most competitive AI on the grid was a fellow Chaparral 2D but the 2J was ahead of him by the start of lap 5 .

@fordlaser777 you mentioned kamikaze earlier on , funnily enough in Murrays Corner on lap 5 , the AI 2D Race Car slammed straight into the back of me , I never spun but he went straight into barrier . I gathered that's what you meant .

Could also be like on the expert Spa Supercar seasonal a few weeks ago where the 430 scuderia literally cut the track at Eau Rouge .

 

[burritoo]

Kinda off topic but did anyone notice that the Challenger Race Car 's top speed was 115 and every gear lasted atleast 2 seconds xD

 

[ApexDrift123]

Kinda off topic but did anyone notice that the Challenger Race Car 's top speed was 115 and every gear lasted atleast 2 seconds xD

Yeah I noticed in the replay.

 

[Baron Blitz Red]

I also chose the '69 GT40 and squeeked by after a huge mistake on my part... photo finish!

Cheers

 

[EmaNymton]

Yeah, that's good, but it's also too easy a win!
I want to beat the 2x 2J's in front with MY 2J...

Like this...
Funny (not to say ridiculous) how quick the AI's are on the straights and catch up to you from far behind (in the same car!!!) and how badly they do in the turns and curves. But there's where you can kill them! ALL!

 

[UltimateLurker]

Here is my gold tune for this event.

I plan on using this car/tune, I'm a bit over the 2J at the moment.

 

[Draggon]

I plugged in that tune by @EmaNymton for the 2J and found myself in first place on lap 4 against the Toyota 7 and two 2J's. As I was going down the Conrod straight for the last time I came upon the Challenger going reeeeel slow. He veered to the right as if to let me pass on the left, and as soon as I got to his quarter panel, wham, he changed lanes into me and sent me to spinning off the concrete barriers. Great job PD, your AI rocks. I have another word for that but don't want to be banned.

Anyway, the tune is great, I got a couple 1:54's 👍

 

[DisabledRacer]

Anybody have the AI's 0-195 mph in 5 seconds, transmission tune for the Toyota 7?

 

[Brewguy44]

Anybody have the AI's 0-195 mph in 5 seconds, transmission tune for the Toyota 7? View attachment 564330

Yea, It is a little, No Make That A LOT Ridiculous!!! 👎

I was in a 2J and just took 1st from a 2D, on the straights he was so close I could hear his engine rumbling behind me. I got just a 1 to 2 sec lead and he's right behind me again!!

 

[bluelightning]

Sidebar: When there's no racing on, the Bathurst track is a normal public road (there's a few houses and tourist attractions around it) with a 60 km/h speed limit.

I drove around it a couple of years ago but I can't imagine how hair-raising it would be in one of these old racecars at full speed (especially if in reality they could do 0-195 mph in 5 seconds)!

 

[davidt33]

It's a vicious race with those 2Js in the front line up.... plus me in my 2J mind you. The amount of times I came 2nd it's crazy and funny at the same time. The AI 2J in the lead has such an incredible lead to begin with even when you pass all the other cars into 2nd position most times you can't even make sight of the lead 2J and wonder where the hell it is. I has consprcy thery.

It's a great fun race though and I quite like the aggressiveness of the AI cars when they try to gang up on you and block you any chance they get. Adds more challenge and fun to it IMO. Going back in their tail tomorrow. Have to beat them.

 

[CarBastard]

*yaaaawn*, yet another screwed up car list that PD couldn't bother to get right.

I took the only car in my garage that could enter, besides the 2J (because reasons). Tried a Shelby Cobra Daytona with S3 engine and a blower, added the fully customizable suspension and toyed with it for a minute without having even driven the car . Lapped at around 2'06.xxx, only giving the event two attempts with no additional suspension tweaks done.

The race is just stupid. PD's usual non-sensical mix of cars that got almost nothing in common besides four wheels and an engine. The PP limit makes it all the more ridiculous...considering the leaders, that start miles ahead of you as usual, are 50+PP above you, in the case of the 2J...and that's without taking in account it's party trick, or 100+PP in the case of the Toyota 7.

It'll take a very experienced driver with a well tuned car or a Chaparral 2J to win this. As for it being fun? Nope...the Ferrari begginer seasonal was, this is just a chore.

 

[CBH]

*yaaaawn*, yet another screwed up car list that PD couldn't bother to get right.

I took the only car in my garage that could enter, besides the 2J (because reasons). Tried a Shelby Cobra Daytona with S3 engine and a blower, added the fully customizable suspension and toyed with it for a minute without having even driven the car . Lapped at around 2'06.xxx, only giving the event two attempts with no additional suspension tweaks done.

The race is just stupid. PD's usual non-sensical mix of cars that got almost nothing in common besides four wheels and an engine. The PP limit makes it all the more ridiculous...considering the leaders, that start miles ahead of you as usual, are 50+PP above you, in the case of the 2J...and that's without taking in account it's party trick, or 100+PP in the case of the Toyota 7.

It'll take a very experienced driver with a well tuned car or a Chaparral 2J to win this. As for it being fun? Nope...the Ferrari begginer seasonal was, this is just a chore.

I notice your lap times are to slow for this race, btw this race is not stupid its a challenge to win 👍.

 

[Kossie]

What's people average lap times here?? I did 1:59s with a 1:58 in there and was still 2.5s off the lead 2j..

I race this event once and my best lap was a 1:54. I think a 1:52 is possible.

But WTF, That Toyota behind me has nitro i think

 

[CarBastard]

I notice your lap times are to slow for this race, btw this race is not stupid its a challenge to win 👍.

I take no offense, I'm a fast enough driver to beat most seasonals but I know I'm far from being properly good. Last time I was ranked in the GTP WRS I believe I managed to get in Division 3. I blame my car choice, like I said I didn't put much thought or tuning into it, just slapped a supercharger and some basic chasis tweaks to the only thing I had besides the 2J. I'm sure that I could win it in one or two tries with the 2J, but where's the fun in that?

However, I must disagree with you there. As a challenge, it's stupid because it's non-sensical. Yes, it's still a challenge but so is seeing how many eggs can you fit in your mouth. It's just the "chase the rabbit" format on steroids, an accumulation of handicaps for the AI to have a chance at being close to an actual player's place. Like I said, it's more of a chore than an actual fun thing to do.

 

[StanNz]

I've had about 5 attempts with tuned Selby Cobra Daytona and I think it's possible. I'm within 7secs of leading 2j at mo. Fastest lap of 2.02 but with a couple of 2.06s in the mix.
It will need a perfect drive from me but a faster driver should crack it with this car.

 

[DisabledRacer]

Once again, I took the easy way out by choosing a wimpy field and getting a win with the Challenger R/T Race Car. Some of you aliens can probably get a win with a field of the AI cheater cars. (If you don't get run off the track by the Kamikaze AI!)

 

[ApexDrift123]

Once again, I took the easy way out by choosing a wimpy field and getting a win with the Challenger R/T Race Car. Some of you aliens can probably get a win with a field of the AI cheater cars. (If you don't get run off the track by the Kamikaze AI!)

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You narrowly beat Takuma Sato ( In the 2D ) , look at his name in the results

 

[Draggon]

The race is just stupid. PD's usual non-sensical mix of cars that got almost nothing in common besides four wheels and an engine. The PP limit makes it all the more ridiculous...considering the leaders, that start miles ahead of you as usual, are 50+PP above you, in the case of the 2J...and that's without taking in account it's party trick, or 100+PP in the case of the Toyota 7.

As I was working way too hard to win this, I thought wouldn't it have been nice if it was a 550pp historic FR event.

I race this event once and my best lap was a 1:54. I think a 1:52 is possible.

I've gotten low 1:54's, so if I can do that, I'd bet someone can get pretty close to 1:50's. Interestingly, I bought the Toyota 7 to see if it might make the event easier. Boy, that thing is a slug at 600pp. I was unable to even brake the 2:00 mark.

 

[TonyJZX]

The XJ13 is possible and pretty fun in a non 2J field.

Anyone tried the GT40 MkIV? I didnt like the 4 spd box and it is $20 mil. to find out.

 

[Nihamavasa72]

I tryed this one with my selftuned Ferrari 330. I did laps below 2.00 constantly but was still behind the 2Js by a couple of seconds.
Do i realy have to use my own 2J or do i have to rejoin till I get rid of those AI 2Js ?
seriously ...
Maybe I'm not the fastes at all , but those AI 2Js are a bit overpowered i think

 

[CBH]

I tryed this one with my selftuned Ferrari 330. I did laps below 2.00 constantly but was still behind the 2Js by a couple of seconds.
Do i realy have to use my own 2J or do i have to rejoin till I get rid of those AI 2Js ?
seriously ...
Maybe I'm not the fastes at all , but those AI 2Js are a bit overpowered i think

Try @shaunm80 Ferrari 330 tune on page 1, it does beat the 2Js 👍.

 

[nowcontrol]

It's not about running the fastest laps possible consecutively, you must concentrate more on masterful passes of the unpredictable AI at whichever point on track you reach them by trying to avoid any blocking and/or collisions while maintaining reasonable pace.

I am a firm believer of the more you collide with trailing AI, the less chance you have of catching the leader. And for some races PD did try to make things a bit harder with the 'rear ending of any AI into corners = angry AI turbo boosts.'

 

[Dr Fourtrack]

Had a line up with a Drunk GT40 driver who insisted on repeatedly using the wall for losing speed at The Cutting.
I hit the wall there and ended up with a penalty.

 

[Kossie]

but those AI 2Js are a bit overpowered i think

Yes they are, And if you past them the $%^^& come back on the long straight, Not hard to win but this is fake 👎👎👎

 

[phineas777]

Not the fastest of times but at least no 2J. Great tussle with the 2D for just over 2 laps. M. Ramos passed me like a rocket on Conrod Straight on lap 4 though managed to return the favour on the final lap (but not going like a rocket ). Good fun.

👍

 

[DeuxMilles]

Hi,

is it possible for a rookie to climb the podium without spending 20mill? i tried the Camaro Z28 Race Car and the Toyota 7 (with 50% power and extra weight). Best result was eight place

Any help would be appreciated

thx,
D.

 

[BenMillard]

Difficult win in 2J even with TRL_Andromeda tune set at 600pp. 1m55s fastest lap. Toyota 7 span into the final chicane, possibly crashed with one of the pair of 2J that were near it! Leaders held up by Alfa Romeo Zagato towards the end.

AI Hub Challenge highest place finish with the Zagato?

I am a firm believer of the more you collide with trailing AI, the less chance you have of catching the leader. And for some races PD did try to make things a bit harder with the 'rear ending of any AI into corners = angry AI turbo boosts.'

That 'feature' is present in this race, at least for the 2J opponents. It's hilarious boosting the slower one and watch it bash past the leading one, with no penalty. Giving the AI a taste of their own medicine!

EDIT: Getting my favourite background music in this event. The long synthesizer tones that change into a sing-song melody. Starts with a little ditty of short guitar notes.

EDIT2: GT40 Race Car '69 at 600pp much much faster than 2D. Race time 11 minutes if you keep on track. But the Toyota 7 '70 did 10:27.569 with the 2J 10:30.996 which is...on another planet. And in a different PP bracket.

EDIT3: Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Race Car '68 with max PP tune from @WhoosierGirl can beat everything apart from Toyota 7 and Chapparell 2J. Fairly cheap car; fully tuned will cost less than you earn from a 3rd place. 👍

10:40 race time with some big crashes and penalties. MIght be possible for 1st, with luck. Leaders got held up by each other and then by lots of traffic at bad moments. I saw 330km/h in the draft towards final chicane!

1st gear is very tall in this car. Final chicane, final turn and turn 1 are all 1st gear at around 100km/h. It feels dead slow but you must keep on the brake until down to that speed.

10:22.421 total time, clean run. Toyota 7 did a 10:14.744 though. Finished 100m behind the 2J because it went off at final chicane.

EDIT4: @DeuxMilles Eligible Car Costs
Without tuning parts, highest PP first:

Cr.1,950,000 Toyota 7 '70
Cr.4,500,000 Chaparral 2J '70 (can win against any AI, needs 1m55s)
Cr.3,750,000 Chaparral 2D '67
Cr.500,000 Audi Auto Union V16 Type C Streamline '37
Cr.20,000,000 Ferrari 330 P4 '67 (can win)
Cr.20,000,000 Ford Mark IV Race Car '67
Cr.20,000,000 Jaguar JX13 '66
Cr.750,000 Corvette Z06 (C2) Race Car '63
Cr.175,000 Dodge Challenger R/T Race Car '70
Cr.20,000,000 Ford GT40 Race Car '69
Cr.215,000 Camaro Z28 Race Car '69 (best cheap car? needs soft grid)
Cr.4,500,000 Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe '64
Cr.10,000,000 Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ1 carrozzata da Zagato CN/AR750106 '65
Cr.2,000,000 Lancia Stratos Rally Car '77
Cr.500,000 Chevrolet StingRay Racer Concept '59
Cr.50,000 Mitsubishi Lancer 1600 GSR Rally Car '74
Cr.250,000 Honda S800 RSC '68
Cr.500,000 Hudson Mario Andretti's 1948 Hudson
Cr.125,000 Nissan Bluebird Rally Car (510) '69
Cr.50,000 Renault R8 Gordini '66

 

[TonyJZX]

A lot of unforced errors. The Auto Union is particularly prone to landing backwards in the kitty litter.

Also if you're in a fast car overtaking on the top of the mountain you are prone to forcing the slower midpack into errors.