About the car list...

[SimTourist]

Yeah, the car list is on the low side, not much higher if at all than Assetto Corsa, but that one is made by 12 guys. Hell, I'd say AC has a better car list with japanese cars added just recently. Generally I have zero desire to drive any VGTs, and GT3 cars are a bit too quick for me. I hope there are some middle-lower end cars as well.

 

[queleuleu]

Alan from VVV said there will be no open wheelers which is a shame.

I hope he's wrong... I like my GT6. If ony we had a GT6 remastered with no standard cars, some remastered tracks, better AI and career structure. I will miss the tuner and classic cars.

 

[sems4arsenal]

I hope he's wrong... I like my GT6. If ony we had a GT6 remastered with no standard cars, some remastered tracks, better AI and career structure. I will miss the tuner and classic cars.

He asked Kaz and that was his answer, I wanted some Formula GTs myself and Senna's Lotus but don't mind that much.

 

[queleuleu]

He asked Kaz and that was his answer, I wanted some Formula GTs myself and Senna's Lotus but don't mind that much.

Instead of calling it GT Sport, they should call it Gran Turismo VR Edition. For me me, it's obvious that this game is made for VR. And for VR, I mean 100% of the game not just some modes. It could justify the limited car selection, static weather (which is a step back from ps3), 20 cars on track (when Forza has 24 I think) and so on.

 

[dr_slump]

There's something that I find more annoying than the relatively low number of cars.
If the game will only feature ridiculous classes as shown in the presentation, then I'd see that as a problem. I don't want to have those stupid vision cars in LMP races and I don't want to see a fricking Corvette in the same class as a Focus and a Mito.

But with a car count of 137 cars, I fear that's exactly how it will be.

 

[doblocruiser]

I think there will be 140 unique cars. Racecars which can't be modded and normal cars which all will have one or more RM versions. Total car count around 250 with mods included.

I also don't expect every manufacturer to be in.

 

[MatskiMonk]

I am disappointed with the car count, but this entry in the GT series isn't focusing on the things that made GT what it is, it's focusing on eSports and online competitions instead, which is the bigger disappointment for me. I await GT7 with high hopes, though I don't know how PD will ever get back to true class leading car count and variety without significantly increasing their staff or out sourcing.

 

[syntex123]

I am disappointed with the car count, but this entry in the GT series isn't focusing on the things that made GT what it is, it's focusing on eSports and online competitions instead, which is the bigger disappointment for me. I await GT7 with high hopes, though I don't know how PD will ever get back to true class leading car count and variety without significantly increasing their staff or out sourcing.

You do realize GT3 is similar to GTS in a few ways? Car classes, low car count..

 

[Earth]

I would be OK with 130 cars if

1. All can be modded extensively (wheels, body kits, aero parts, race mods)
2. All have decent damage modeling
3. All have exquisite sounds

Get that right and people will forget about the car count quickly.

But so far none of that is confirmed. And before anyone says I've set the bar too high, Driveclub does 2/3 of those things pretty well, and the people who made it have a fraction of the time and budget of PD.

Which leaves the question as to why? Surely the reason for such few cars isnt Kaz wasnt happy some didnt have hand stitching in the interior or head lamp manufacturer logos on the lights.

Possible reasons for the low car count

• Alot of cars are being withheld to sell as DLC after release
• Alot of cars are being withheld to boost GT7's car count and make it feel like a big bump up from GTS
• Only cars that fit into the e-SPORTS mold were added, so kei cars, classics etc were left out
• Kaz has gone too far and and actually thinks the PS3 premiums were not good enough and trashed all those cars

 

[MatskiMonk]

You do realize GT3 is similar to GTS in a few ways? Car classes, low car count..

So what? That doesn't negate the fact that one of GTs selling points has always been a large roster of cars. GT4 was far better than GT3, and guess what, it had more cars and tracks.

 

[Tornado]

You do realize GT3 is similar to GTS in a few ways? Car classes, low car count..

GT3 (and GT1, obviously) were full fledged GT games designed around their car counts. PD has been very explicit that GT Sport is not the former (despite costing the same as one), and it has been a long time since PD have shown that they are capable of the latter. Filling the roster of their E-Sports, FIA-backed mostly online title with the stupid VGT cars, as an example, doesn't lend a lot of hope to the latter either.




GT3 was also by a huge margin the best looking game in the PS2's early life all the way back in GT2000 days. GTS is coming out three years after the PS4 launched.

 

[queleuleu]

You do realize GT3 is similar to GTS in a few ways? Car classes, low car count..

Gt2 to Gt3 was something huuuuuge, awesome. Even greater than ps2 to ps3. I don't have this feeling with Gt sport. (Even if GTsport looks really good).
No seriously seeing Seattle with heat haze and the sunset can't be compared with another racing game experience IMO.
By the way, I don't see any heat haze...

 

[TurismoBad]

137 is fine provided the list is varied, interesting and most importantly feature mostly cars new to the series.

 

[syntex123]

So what? That doesn't negate the fact that one of GTs selling points has always been a large roster of cars. GT4 was far better than GT3, and guess what, it had more cars and tracks.

It wasn't one of their selling points for GT3, that's what I'm getting at.

 

[Tornado]

It wasn't one of their selling points for GT3, that's what I'm getting at.

That's an awfully long list of things for "amount of things" to not be a selling point.

 

[SimTourist]

137 is fine provided the list is varied, interesting and most importantly feature mostly cars new to the series.

I don't know about that man, car variety used to be one of GT's strongest selling points, if all cars are from 2010's that sounds super boring to me.

 

[queleuleu]

That's an awfully long list of things for "amount of things" to not be a selling point.

The real next gen experience.

 

[syntex123]

That's an awfully long list of things for "amount of things" to not be a selling point.

Still not many cars per manufacturer.

 

[Tornado]

And...? The only difference between the GT2 and GT3 box is that they didn't put a specific number on the car total, but the attempted implication made by listing every single car manufacturer on the back of the box is the same.

 

[TurismoBad]

I don't know about that man, car variety used to be one of GT's strongest selling points, if all cars are from 2010's that sounds super boring to me.

There's gotta be some cool cars left from before 2010 that weren't featured. Another thing are fan favorite standards. I would be fine with let's say premium Supra etc.

All cars from similar era would indeed not be the greatest thing but so would be driving cars from previous games. Let's just hope for a good balance.

 

[Aloha62_2]

The number is low especially when you compare it to the others. But I remember when Gran Turismo 3 came out, they had 181 cars, according to http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps2/197470-granturismo3aspec/faqs/13640.

I'm not sure if you played Gran Turismo 3, but that number was PLENTY. As long as they add a good selection of cars I believe we will be fine.

I also think that there will be more than 140 or so when the game comes out. Maybe 200.

180 was plenty then as they were quite varied and also tunable, you could tweak a favorite car to race in a few different leagues and races. Now with less variety (that we have seen so far), no tuning and quite possibly a fair few clones it feels quite limited. Being told that the long creation time of GT5/6 prems were so that they were forwards compatible just to see them go missing is also quite the disappointment.


But as a previous poster said-

'PD is still PD'.

 

[Toysuprahot]

Time to rant on this thread.

I am very angry at PD. There is no reason for hundreds of beautifull premium cars to disappear like dust, they should be ashamed.

Add that I recall Kaz said somewhere that this GT could in fact be called GT7 without any problem. Very bad news, we might either never see these premium again, or when they come back, after an awfull amount of years as usual. Personnally, I'm tired of this slow-*** company who always disappoints with their wrong decisions. The real one step forward, two steps backward simulation.

 

[Coiler]

Maybe its a good idea to sign an petition for including old premium cars in GTS?

 

[queleuleu]

Time to rant on this thread.

I am very angry at PD. There is no reason for hundreds of beautifull premium cars to disappear like dust, they should be ashamed.

Add that I recall Kaz said somewhere that this GT could in fact be called GT7 without any problem. Very bad news, we might either never see these premium again, or when they come back, after an awfull amount of years as usual. Personnally, I'm tired of this slow-*** company who always disappoints with their wrong decisions. The real one step forward, two steps backward simulation.

Thank you! I can't understand how we went from the inclusion of standard cars to only 130 cars (counting VGTs!!!). Maybe it's a problem of technology, I see a lot of people talking about PBR.

 

[Toysuprahot]

Thank you! I can't understand how we went from the inclusion of standard cars to only 130 cars (counting VGTs!!!). Maybe it's a problem of technology, I see a lot of people talking about PBR.

I don't know what PBR is but I don't even care. These cars still look stunning, there's absolutely no reason to throw them. If it be because of livery editor or something else minor, then they better focus on that for their work, I'm sure it needs only minor unsignificant tweaks.

If premium cars disappear in the next GT, and I still haven't bought a PS4, I might consider the Xbox solution, seriously...

Maybe its a good idea to sign an petition for including old premium cars in GTS?

Would be a great Idea, but has PD ever been so close to their fans to consider a petition? I believe PD will just ignore all our attempts, based on experience they avoid every contact from their fanbase.

 

[Coiler]

Since Jordan was the co host on the last event I would say its at least worth a try. GTPlanet, NeoGaf and all the social media can help push it trough.

 

[Streeto]

In Gran turismo standard 137 cars is a very low car count but if you compare it with other racing title, it's still a fairly decent amount of cars. I'd rather have 100+ cars with high quality model than 1000 cars with "standards" "semi-premium" "premium" BS we had in Gt6. I thought people want quality over quantity?

Half of the cars I love in GT are standards, the other half are premiums that will also not be in this game.

I'm gonna give this game a try but I do hope they bring back some of the old goodies. Especially pre-02 JDM classics because I know theres a lot of JDM lovers that play GT, naturally. On the flip side, there's not gonna be any old school muscle cars either!

 

[Aero2000]

I think it's like the Prologues and Concept games, they had also low numbers of cars, so I can't say that I thought it would be more cars in GT Sports

 

[Toysuprahot]

 

[sirjim73]

There's something that I find more annoying than the relatively low number of cars.
If the game will only feature ridiculous classes as shown in the presentation, then I'd see that as a problem. I don't want to have those stupid vision cars in LMP races and I don't want to see a fricking Corvette in the same class as a Focus and a Mito.

But with a car count of 137 cars, I fear that's exactly how it will be.

Minor comment to add flesh to the class structure. In the bottom class of cars, Kaz said at the Friday presentation that there will be different sub-classes for e.g. 500HP, 300HP, so hopefully that might keep the Mito and Corvette separate. Doesn't change the position re your overall comment of course, though.