Accuforce Steering Wheel Thread
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Great job to Shaun on his AccuForce first look video!
Here is my review of the AccuForce wheel,
http://www.mockracer.com/2015/01/simxperience-accuforce-review.html
Here is my review of the AccuForce wheel,
http://www.mockracer.com/2015/01/simxperience-accuforce-review.html
Its going to be a lot better than the CSW v2. Twice the force and less parts to break internally.I would really like to know if it is very very different from the CSW V2.
I am using a wheel stand and sometimes play on consoles so the V2 is the best wheel for my current use, but the Accuforce seems to be THE wheel
Wheel Stand Pro has no issues with a T500RS or a CSW v2, I use both of those on a Wheel Stand Pro. Very solid platform. I'm even going to attempt to use an Accuforce on a Wheel Stand Pro.
Having no issues hmm. Wobble for me is issue. If there isn´t any wobble in these at all with something like T500RS even less the V2 I will eat my hat. It defies the law of physics 
I have had double bar cockpits with thicker profiles that has wobble I just can´t see it.
I don´t doubt you can race with them I am sure they can fit a leo bodnar system as well without collapsing from it´s weight and tone down the ffb accordingly.
I have had double bar cockpits with thicker profiles that has wobble I just can´t see it.I don´t doubt you can race with them I am sure they can fit a leo bodnar system as well without collapsing from it´s weight and tone down the ffb accordingly.
Having no issues hmm. Wobble for me is issue. If there isn´t any wobble in these at all with something like T500RS even less the V2 I will eat my hat. It defies the law of physics
I don´t doubt you can race with them I am sure they can fit a leo bodnar system as well without collapsing from it´s weight and tone down the ffb accordingly.
If you have seen a Wheel Stand Pro in person you'll understand. They're VERY heavy duty and weigh a good bit. Very well designed honestly. Exceeded my expectations in every way.
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- Lamalozo
Having no issues hmm. Wobble for me is issue. If there isn´t any wobble in these at all with something like T500RS even less the V2 I will eat my hat. It defies the law of physics
I don´t doubt you can race with them I am sure they can fit a leo bodnar system as well without collapsing from it´s weight and tone down the ffb accordingly.
Yes with a SimSteering wheel or an Accuforce no way to use a wheel stand. This is why I said that the V2 is in my case the best wheel because I do not own a rig and move my stand from the basement to the TV or the PC (waf).
I do not pretend that the CSW V2 performs as well than an Accuforce, I am just curious of how different it is.
The V2 is also an amazing wheel. I am not in a "what is the best wheel ever" mood. Just curious
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I applied through the beta program invitation, but I had sent in a request to be put on the list in late September of last year. Either way, it is worth the wait and they will be available soon.
Yes with a SimSteering wheel or an Accuforce no way to use a wheel stand. This is why I said that the V2 is in my case the best wheel because I do not own a rig and move my stand from the basement to the TV or the PC (waf).
I do not pretend that the CSW V2 performs as well than an Accuforce, I am just curious of how different it is.
The V2 is also an amazing wheel. I am not in a "what is the best wheel ever" mood. Just curious
The only issue I can see with a wheel stand, or any stand that isn't mounted firmly to the floor, no matter how sturdy it is during driving, is that if it tips over and the wheel comes crashing to the floor, there will be trouble. The base is over 20lbs!! My CSW V1 base is 9.2lbs!
I honestly don't know what the differences between the V2 and the AF wheels are, but perhaps some of other beta testers who may own one may reveal soon. I can tell you for sure though that difference between the V1 and the AF is a massive one.
My Wheel Stand Pro has never once moved more than a 1/2 inch much less turned over. I don't even see how that's possible given how wide the base is, plus the weight of the equipment on the stand, and your feet on the pedals. I really think unless you've seen one and used one, you don't know just how good these stands are. These aren't like first generation generic stands sold on eBay through shady retailers.
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- skazz-race
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Do you drift with powerful wheels on your wheel stand pro?
I run my T500RS on a Rennsport wheelstand and it's absolutely solid until I start drifting. I find I need to put my left foot on the base of the wheelstand to provide a bit more weight when I'm violently spinning the wheel around during drift entry or switching between drifting directions.
The thought of putting over twice as much torque on a wheelstand doesn't appeal to me, at least :S
I run my T500RS on a Rennsport wheelstand and it's absolutely solid until I start drifting. I find I need to put my left foot on the base of the wheelstand to provide a bit more weight when I'm violently spinning the wheel around during drift entry or switching between drifting directions.
The thought of putting over twice as much torque on a wheelstand doesn't appeal to me, at least :S
skazz, I like ya man but unless you've owned a Wheel Stand Pro, you can't really pass judgment. I'm no drift king but I've got my T500RS bolted to my wheel stand pro as I'm typing this and I've never had any issues with it while drifting. Reading your comments about how you had to place your left foot on the Rennsport only tells me that the WSP much be considerably better than the Rennsport stand. I have literally NEVER needed to place my feet on my WSP to keep it from moving however my feet are usually on the footrest of my pedals because I need to use the pedals of course. The WSP is extremely solid, there's really nothing more I can say about it until you try one for yourself.
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Well I had Rennsport wheel stand and already asked here if someone had WSP as well for direct comparison.
Short answer is that Rennsport is more sturdy. And once I got CSW it was clear that wheel stands cannot handle it.
So I have no illusion that it can handle AF.
I'd say you're lucky if you feel that WSP is enough because upgrade to simrig is quite expensive. But once I did it I finally could enjoy CSW.
Short answer is that Rennsport is more sturdy. And once I got CSW it was clear that wheel stands cannot handle it.
So I have no illusion that it can handle AF.
I'd say you're lucky if you feel that WSP is enough because upgrade to simrig is quite expensive. But once I did it I finally could enjoy CSW.
I had my CSW v2 bolted to my Wheel Stand Pro for 11 days before the wheel broke and never once had any issues with it. Cost has nothing to do with me not using a cockpit. I don't have a dedicated room for a cockpit with two kids and I'm not going to set up one in the garage so a wheel stand gives me portability. That being said, again none of that has anything to do with the Wheel Stand Pro not being able to handle a higher end wheel which it does just fine. I've also never from anyone that has owned both the Rennsport and the WSP that the Rennsport was more sturdy. You are the first there.
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Blkout, I totally understand cost not being the main reason. I had to drop Obutto because it did not pass the GAF since I do not have a dedicated room as well. That being said, there are physics laws that makes wheel stands unstable.
Have you tried racing ir a proper simrig? For me it was like a night and day difference.
Regarding WSP vs. Rennsport - I just gathered info from others. If there are some owners that have both then please comment.
Have you tried racing ir a proper simrig? For me it was like a night and day difference.
Regarding WSP vs. Rennsport - I just gathered info from others. If there are some owners that have both then please comment.
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It remains to be seen if a WSP will work with an Accuforce wheel, it may not, and if it doesn't then I will have to figure something else out but I can say with certainty that a CSW v2 will work just fine on a WSP without any issues.
My younger brother has a SimXperience Stage IV rig so I've used a proper cockpit. Its nice to be able to sit in an actual driving position no doubt. I'm looking at a Geko GS-105 at least until my oldest son moves out or I move into a larger house. I never figured I would fill up a 2000 sq ft home so quickly when I bought it 11 years ago.
It remains to be seen if a WSP will work with an Accuforce wheel, it may not, and if it doesn't then I will have to figure something else out but I can say with certainty that a CSW v2 will work just fine on a WSP without any issues.
My younger brother has a SimXperience Stage IV rig so I've used a proper cockpit. Its nice to be able to sit in an actual driving position no doubt. I'm looking at a Geko GS-105 at least until my oldest son moves out or I move into a larger house. I never figured I would fill up a 2000 sq ft home so quickly when I bought it 11 years ago.
Here is an AccuForce Reviews Recap
http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/simxperience...cuforce-pro-beta-review.99522/
http://www.mockracer.com/2015/01/simxperience-accuforce-review.html
https://thesimpit.com/en/news/comments/Accuforce-S...-Exclusive-Hands-On-First-Look
Ryan Ogurek recently added a review to the Race Department site.
http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/simxperience...cuforce-pro-beta-review.99522/
http://www.mockracer.com/2015/01/simxperience-accuforce-review.html
https://thesimpit.com/en/news/comments/Accuforce-S...-Exclusive-Hands-On-First-Look
Ryan Ogurek recently added a review to the Race Department site.
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Wheel Stand Pro with an Accuforce? Pffft.......
Watch from around 2:15 to see how it fares with the puny forces of a G25. It's not just about keeping it upright though, every tiny bit of give from a wheel mount compromises what the wheel is trying to trasmit to the driver. So the WSP certainly won't handle the forces, and fidelity will be lost - there goes the two biggest selling points of the Accuforce.
Watch from around 2:15 to see how it fares with the puny forces of a G25. It's not just about keeping it upright though, every tiny bit of give from a wheel mount compromises what the wheel is trying to trasmit to the driver. So the WSP certainly won't handle the forces, and fidelity will be lost - there goes the two biggest selling points of the Accuforce.
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That has NEVER happened to me even with a Fanatec CSW v2. That is utterly ridiculous in that video. The only time you run the risk of it wobbling is if you raise the height to like 3ft or more, mine is set to just barely over 2ft tall at the bottom of the base. There is ZERO wobbling at 24-28", I've never raised mine above that height as I have no need to since the top of my wheel is already at 40".
I understand that the Accuforce is stronger than the Fanatec CSW V2 but the way you make it out, I shouldn't even be able to use anything stronger than a G25 based on that video and that is just flat out wrong. Its obvious to me you don't own a Wheel Stand Pro, if you did, you would laugh at that video too because that just isn't the case at all.
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So the conclusion is that if you're a drift king champion, you shouldn't use a wheel stand pro. I certainly don't claim to be a drift king but I get ZERO wobble under normal driving, it is however pretty apparent there in that video that a T500 which outputs more than twice as much torque as a G25 certainly isn't wobbling like that first video. Just goes to show you can't believe everything you see, even in a video. I'm no lying when I say the only way you're going to see considerable wobble with a Wheel Stand Pro is if you try to raise the height of it above 30", if that is not a limitation for you, its a very solid platform. As long as you keep the height if the stand to no more than 28-30" its extremely stable.
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To be fair, the legs of the WSP are barely moving, it's mainly the centre post. Suggests to me that the base is indeed quite weighty, but the unit doesn't hold up regardless.
Some people use low ffb settings, Even with no ffb though, the wobble would be too much for me. The Bob Earl cockpit makes use of the weight of the driver and was still horrendous when I tried it. Modified with two side arms, it was infinitely better. Even if the WSP doesn't topple over, the centre post wobble would surely be no less than a Bob Earl has.
Let's also keep in mind that this is an Accuforce thread. Maybe it would suit your needs, but with what I expect most people to want from the wheel, the WSP would be completely inappropriate. It absolutely has it's place, but paired with an Accuforce is really not going to be that "place".
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OK try not to take this the wrong way but since you don't own one, your opinion is worth very little on this. No offense, but true. And I assume you would feel the same way if you had a product you owned and I didn't but yet I was trying to give you my .02 compared to your experience with the product. If you ever buy one or get a chance to use one, you'll see things completely different, I certainly did and I had my doubts before owning one. As I stated I'll be testing an Accuforce on one of these in a few months when they can ship me one. If I end up needing a cockpit I'll work something out but so far the WSP hasn't let me down yet even with a Fanatec CSW v2.
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