Advice to PD from a GT Fanboy

[NixxxoN]

And if their opinion and what they want going into the game lines up with yours, then there's more then enough reason there to be able to make a judgement on whether you would want to take the plunge or not. No matter if it's someone else's opinion, doesn't mean you can't take it into consideration. If problems ibhad in the past still aren't fixed, and a reviewer makes note of that, than why would I have a reason to not believe it, especially if more than one person is stating it?

Each person is different and its not easy to perfectly line up with someone else's.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

GT6 did quite well critically, might be best console racing game in 2013 going by Metascore and User Score on Metacritic.

 

[ImaRobot]

Each person is different and its not easy to perfectly line up with someone else's.

I never even suggested that they would. I merely said that there's no problem taking reviews into consideration.

 

[Pete05]

I insist... Do not care about reviews, try it for yourself if you can. Try it for yourself.
Reviews are opinions, there are millions of opinions in this world, reviewers opinions dont matter more than yours or mine. You can hear 10 or 15 unfavorable or avereage reviews about that game and you can find it excellent.
You can also see reviewers that dont really have much clue about what they are reviewing... IGN's review for GT6 for example, was shockingly bad for a guy who is supposed to be an "expert" of videogames... it seems he never played a GT game in his life, or he never played any racing games - for example he didnt talk about physics at all. And thats an extremely important part of this kind of game.
And on the other way round... you can find lots of great reviews about a game, and then you play it and realise that it's a piece of crap... because those reviews might be biased and "sponsored". I give you an example... The Journey, for PS3. What a terrible, terrible game. Very short, very boring, very empty... the only thing that is good is the music but thats it.


No, you better try it for yourself, thats it.

No, I insist. After pre-ordering and paying a deposit for Gran Turismos 2-6 inclusive, following the franchise faithfully & feeling deflated by what PD gave us with GT6, I'm not falling for it again. Just as well IGN's reviewer didn't mention the physics; they're well and truly :censored:d! So much for all the promises of a new suspension model in partnership with a well respected, real-world manufacturer. They shouldn't have bothered. Ride height absolutely screwed, camber fixed but still useless and FF cars that wouldn't know lift-off oversteer if it jumped up & down on the roof. Fail.
You might have the money to spend on a game without checking the reviews, hoping it's what you hoped it would be or, what was promised but others, like me, don't.
GT6 promised us the world. PD then sent us all a wall map. If you're impressed by that, spend up. If you're not, pay attention to the reviews and make an educated decision.

 

[1241Penguin]

Each person is different and its not easy to perfectly line up with someone else's.

How sad it must be that you're unable to put faith in anyone else's opinion over a video game.

 

[NixxxoN]

No, I insist. After pre-ordering and paying a deposit for Gran Turismos 2-6 inclusive, following the franchise faithfully & feeling deflated by what PD gave us with GT6, I'm not falling for it again. Just as well IGN's reviewer didn't mention the physics; they're well and truly :censored:d! So much for all the promises of a new suspension model in partnership with a well respected, real-world manufacturer. They shouldn't have bothered. Ride height absolutely screwed, camber fixed but still useless and FF cars that wouldn't know lift-off oversteer if it jumped up & down on the roof. Fail.
You might have the money to spend on a game without checking the reviews, hoping it's what you hoped it would be or, what was promised but others, like me, don't.
GT6 promised us the world. PD then sent us all a wall map. If you're impressed by that, spend up. If you're not, pay attention to the reviews and make an educated decision.

Well, you are just helping me with my point now. You think GT6 isnt good, and I completely disagree and I find it great. See what I mean?
And you might love certain game, and then I play it and I think its bad or I dont like it at all...
There are ways to TRY the game without buying it.

How sad it must be that you're unable to put faith in anyone else's opinion over a video game.

Why sad? Perhaps what is sad is to depend on others opinions instead of forming your own.

 

[1241Penguin]

Why sad?

Because there are some GTP members whose views and opinions I greatly respect. Can't say I'm surprised that you're unable to see that.

Perhaps what is sad is to depend on others opinions instead of forming your own.

What is sad is your inability to take in other people's opinions.

 

[NixxxoN]

Because there are some GTP members whose views and opinions I greatly respect. Can't say I'm surprised that you're unable to see that.

What is sad is your inability to take in other people's opinions.

I think you dont get it...
You can respect all the members you want and respect their opinions, and listen to them... and at the same time dont get influenced by them like a 10 years old child, and be mature enough to form your opinion mostly by yourself.
I chose to try the games myself because each person is different, as I said.
Will you buy a music album just because someone else said its great, or would you listen it a bit before buying it?

 

[1241Penguin]

and at the same time dont get influenced by them like a 10 years old child, and be mature enough to form your opinion mostly by yourself.

W0t?

Respecting other people's opinions = getting influenced by them like a child?

I chose to try the games myself because each person is different, as I said.

Good for you. Happily for me, and many other forum members, there are some people on GTPlanet whose views and opinions on Gran Turismo harmoniously coincide with that of mine. Yes, it won't coincide 100%, but it's still good enough agreement that I will trust their word.

Will you buy a music album just because someone else said its great, or would you listen it a bit before buying it?

Terrible comparison.

 

[NixxxoN]

W0t?

Respecting other people's opinions = getting influenced by them like a child?

Good for you. Happily for me, and many other forum members, there are some people on GTPlanet whose views and opinions on Gran Turismo harmoniously coincide with that of mine. Yes, it won't coincide 100%, but it's still good enough agreement that I will trust their word.

Terrible comparison.

Yeah, you know, children get influenced easily and stuff. I mean you can listen to many opinions and still not get influenced, or to get influenced by anything your best friends say, which I'd say it means you dont have personality.
I think its a very good comparison. An almost perfect one.

 

[1241Penguin]

Yeah, you know, children get influenced easily and stuff. I mean you can listen to many opinions and still not get influenced, or to get influenced by anything your best friends say, which I'd say it means you dont have personality.

I choose whose opinions to value. A child is influenced by the people around them; it's not their choice.

I think its a very good comparison. An almost perfect one.

So let's compare how one can theoretically operationalize each item -

On GT:

"The AI is still terrible; they drive around like zombies not taking into account the human player nor the fastest driving line!"

...is a tangible statement that allows you to gauge the quality of the game even if it were said by someone else.

"The cars still sound like vacuum cleaners!"

...is a tangible statement that allows you to gauge the quality of the game even if it were said by someone else.

"The UI is muddled and takes too long to load; longer than GT5!"

...is a tangible statement that allows you to gauge the quality of the game even if it were said by someone else.

"The race design, with its rolling starts and spread out field, leads to uncompetitive racing and subsequently a boring game."

...is a tangible statement that allows you to gauge the quality of the game even if it were said by someone else.


The only time you wouldn't be able to make judgements on a game based on these statements is if you have no prior experience with racing games to begin with.

...


Now let's compare:

"I like this song. It sounds melodious to the ears!"

...is not a tangible statement that allows you to gauge the quality of the song even if it were said by someone else.


Now, I'm sure that hardcore music fans will be able to make sense of other opinions about a song, but in the context of our comparison, it's irrelevant. It's pretty much the same as saying "you shouldn't take in someone else's opinion about a video game because everyone's opinions are different, just like how some people like vanilla ice cream, while some others like chocolate ice cream, and so on."

 

[Imari]

GT6 did quite well critically, might be best console racing game in 2013 going by Metascore and User Score on Metacritic.

Pretty much all the big racing games are within a couple of points of each other on Metacritic. This includes such gems as Grid 2, F1 2013, NFS Rivals and Forza 5.

GT6 did acceptably critically, 8/10 is fine*. But it did not stand out in any way from it's competitors at the time, at least not critically.

*Yes, I know that the video game rating system of 8/10 being a slightly above average game is :censored:ed. But it is what it is.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

I read a lot of review for Alien Colonial Marines on PS3 before I bought the game, all of the reviews were either saying the game is a failure or plain bad / insult to alien franchise. Graphics are shocking for 2013 game, sound and AI were poor, gameplay also take bad rep. I took the risk and bought it, played it, and still played it from time to time, I like it. Similar to Gundam Target in Sight and Stranglehold that I bought when I got my PS3 the first time, most of my mates said don't buy these POS game. I bought them new for low prices, and I still play them after more than 5 years owning them.

Read reviews, but always try it first if you can ( rent, borrow or play at mate console ), you never know

Demon Souls have a great score and review, my mate borrow it after I told him about how great it is, challenging and one of a kind he got pissed after an hour play and never wanted to touch it again, he said it's a torture to play.

 

[NixxxoN]

I choose whose opinions to value. A child is influenced by the people around them; it's not their choice.

So let's compare how one can theoretically operationalize each item -

On GT:



...is a tangible statement that allows you to gauge the quality of the game even if it were said by someone else.



...is a tangible statement that allows you to gauge the quality of the game even if it were said by someone else.



...is a tangible statement that allows you to gauge the quality of the game even if it were said by someone else.



...is a tangible statement that allows you to gauge the quality of the game even if it were said by someone else.


The only time you wouldn't be able to make judgements on a game based on these statements is if you have no prior experience with racing games to begin with.

...


Now let's compare:



...is not a tangible statement that allows you to gauge the quality of the song even if it were said by someone else.


Now, I'm sure that hardcore music fans will be able to make sense of other opinions about a song, but in the context of our comparison, it's irrelevant. It's pretty much the same as saying "you shouldn't take in someone else's opinion about a video game because everyone's opinions are different, just like how some people like vanilla ice cream, while some others like chocolate ice cream, and so on."

All those examples are not really relevant for everyone... as you might not care about the AI or rolling starts offline and you might focus on playing online therefore those dont matter much to you. And about the sounds... yeah it might be a factor but for some people it might be a secondary one and not a critical one.

But anyway, to sum it up... if you can try the game for yourself (before buying it), it is way better than reading a hundred opinions, isnt it?

 

[1241Penguin]

All those examples are not really relevant for everyone... as you might not care about the AI or rolling starts offline and you might focus on playing online therefore those dont matter much to you. And about the sounds... yeah it might be a factor but for some people it might be a secondary one and not a critical one.

Jesus Christ. Way to miss the point.

But anyway, to sum it up... if you can try the game for yourself (before buying it), it is way better than reading a hundred opinions, isnt it?

That's the entire problem. Not everyone has the opportunity to try it out before buying it.

 

[ImaRobot]

All those examples are not really relevant for everyone... as you might not care about the AI or rolling starts offline and you might focus on playing online therefore those dont matter much to you. And about the sounds... yeah it might be a factor but for some people it might be a secondary one and not a critical one.

But anyway, to sum it up... if you can try the game for yourself (before buying it), it is way better than reading a hundred opinions, isnt it?

The problem you're having is that you don't seem to understand what taking an opinion into consideration means. No one is saying to blindly and readily go in and accept everything that the review is saying, quite the opposite. When you take something into consideration, you're realizing what is said, and coming to your own conclusion. Whether that means trying out the game or not, it will be all based on your likes/dislikes as well as taking into consideration reviews from trustworthy sources. It's looking at both the bad and good, using your past experiences with series, as well as using the reviews to see what has been alleviated as well as what is still a problem, before going in and spending money.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Relevant image:

Reviews are important. While some might place more or less importance on aspects of the game like AI, menu design, or sounds, hearing about them (and how they compare comparatively to the competition) is entirely the point. To deny that is being intentionally ignorant.

 

[NixxxoN]

That's the entire problem. Not everyone has the opportunity to try it out before buying it.

I dont think I missed any point.
Pretty sure GTS will have a demo available so... problem solved.

The problem you're having is that you don't seem to understand what taking an opinion into consideration means. No one is saying to blindly and readily go in and accept everything that the review is saying, quite the opposite. When you take something into consideration, you're realizing what is said, and coming to your own conclusion. Whether that means trying out the game or not, it will be all based on your likes/dislikes as well as taking into consideration reviews from trustworthy sources. It's looking at both the bad and good, using your past experiences with series, as well as using the reviews to see what has been alleviated as well as what is still a problem, before going in and spending money.

Same as above. A demo will surely be available for such an important PS game. Its impossible to describe how it feels to play a game with words. I mean you have to FEEL the game yourself.

Reviews are important. While some might place more or less importance on aspects of the game like AI, menu design, or sounds, hearing about them (and how they compare comparatively to the competition) is entirely the point. To deny that is being intentionally ignorant.

Talking to a wall? You know I'm stubborn, but i'm not the only one.
To me reviews are not important, they are just random opinions from random people. Over time I stopped having faith on them for several reasons.
If I had to listen to someone's opinion about the next GT, I would listen to a big GT fan that played all the series since GT1 (like myself) rather than a random reviewer out there.

 

[ImaRobot]

Same as above, now you guys are being contrarian just because you seem to enjoy it. A demo will surely be available for such an important PS game.

This is in no way, a reply to my post. You didn't address anything.

Talking to a wall? You know I'm stubborn, but i'm not the only one.
To me reviews are not important, they are just random opinions from random people. Over time I stopped having faith on them for several reasons.
If I had to listen to someone's opinion about the next GT, I would listen to a big GT fan that played all the series since GT1 (like myself) rather than a random reviewer out there.

The problem here, is that you are the only one talking about unreliable reviewers, yet no one is mentioning that, because everyone already knows better. It's common sense. That's why its like talking to a brick wall.

You keep missing the point though. No one is talking about blindly following a review. More so just taking into consideration what has been said, over a series of information presented by reviews(notice that I'm talk about more than one.) By using your past experience with the series, as well as seeing multiple times over that certain things aren't/are fixed, you should be able to set up and form your opinion on whether or not you'd be interested on giving something a chance, then the next step would actually be testing it out before you actually buy it. You yourself are the only one talking about putting blind faith into something, no one else.

Why would you go for a big GT fan? You should go to someone that is open to the genre in general, not one that is already partial to the series. Going to the one already having a confirmation bias is just going to give you the results you want, the double standard you're setting yourself up for. You'll blindly believe someone if they talk up the game it seems, but wont believe anyone if they talk down on it.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

I dont think I missed any point.
Pretty sure GTS will have a demo available so... problem solved.

Tell me how that helps the people that don't already own a PS4.

Talking to a wall? You know I'm stubborn, but i'm not the only one.

Being stubborn is one thing. Ignoring reason is another. You manage to repeatedly accomplish both.

To me reviews are not important, they are just random opinions from random people. Over time I stopped having faith on them for several reasons.
If I had to listen to someone's opinion about the next GT, I would listen to a big GT fan that played all the series since GT1 (like myself) rather than a random reviewer out there.

Reviews aren't important... unless they're already a fan like you? Yep, bound to get a fair view there.

Ignoring that you've, on numerous occasions, disregarded views from other fans – which sort of makes your whole point moot – you're still missing the point. Again. Reviews aren't there to make decisions for other people, they're there to inform others about making their decisions. Reviews cover aspects of the game that extend far beyond the numbers and bullet points on the back of the case. If a reviewer says [insert game]'s career is short, and filled with poor AI, my experience isn't going to be any different from that. I might not be bothered by it, and other aspects of the game might weigh more heavily in my decision to purchase, but that review had a valid bit of information about the game.

 

[NixxxoN]

This is in no way, a reply to my post. You didn't address anything.


The problem here, is that you are the only one talking about unreliable reviewers, yet no one is mentioning that, because everyone already knows better. It's common sense. That's why its like talking to a brick wall.

You keep missing the point though. No one is talking about blindly following a review. More so just taking into consideration what has been said, over a series of information presented by reviews(notice that I'm talk about more than one.) By using your past experience with the series, as well as seeing multiple times over that certain things aren't/are fixed, you should be able to set up and form your opinion on whether or not you'd be interested on giving something a chance, then the next step would actually be testing it out before you actually buy it. You yourself are the only one talking about putting blind faith into something, no one else.

Why would you go for a big GT fan? You should go to someone that is open to the genre in general, not one that is already partial to the series. Going to the one already having a confirmation bias is just going to give you the results you want, the double standard you're setting yourself up for. You'll blindly believe someone if they talk up the game it seems, but wont believe anyone if they talk down on it.

Tell me how that helps the people that don't already own a PS4.

Being stubborn is one thing. Ignoring reason is another. You manage to repeatedly accomplish both.

Reviews aren't important... unless they're already a fan like you? Yep, bound to get a fair view there.

Ignoring that you've, on numerous occasions, disregarded views from other fans – which sort of makes your whole point moot – you're still missing the point. Again. Reviews aren't there to make decisions for other people, they're there to inform others about making their decisions. Reviews cover aspects of the game that extend far beyond the numbers and bullet points on the back of the case. If a reviewer says [insert game]'s career is short, and filled with poor AI, my experience isn't going to be any different from that. I might not be bothered by it, and other aspects of the game might weigh more heavily in my decision to purchase, but that review had a valid bit of information about the game.

I'm not missing any point AT ALL. Dont act like I'm stupid, I'm not.
I understand perfectly what you guys say.

I think that NO ONE is unbiased. No one. One always will have a bit of preference for one game or the other.

Therefore if I had to listen to someone, I'd listen to people who really appreciate GT, and who better than a GT fan since GT1. Because people that are used to other racing games might find GT strange and not quite what you want. And the same works for the opposite.

But anyway, back to the main reason why I say this... you cant express with words the feeling of playing so you never know.

Dont have a PS4? Well, then try asking a friend. Or try going into an electronics department of a shopping mall, or something like that.

I understand reviewers dont like this opinion though

 

[ImaRobot]

I'm not missing any point AT ALL. Dont act like I'm stupid, I'm not.
I understand perfectly what you guys say.

If you feel someone is making you out to be stupid, they aren't, that is all on your own doing. No, you obviously don't get the point. Each post just solidifies that.

I think that NO ONE is unbiased. No one. One always will have a bit of preference for one game or the other.

Then why would you purposely go to one with a strict bias towards GT, in order to get a review? That's just setting yourself up completely wrong. It goes fullheartedly with how you tell us not to believe reviews, yet you'd say you'd believe someone if they where a big GT fan. It's a double standard you're making glaringly obvious.

Therefore if I had to listen to someone, I'd listen to people who really appreciate GT, and who better than a GT fan since GT1. Because people that are used to other racing games might find GT strange and not quite what you want. And the same works for the opposite.

So you believe that no one is unbiased, yet youd go to one that has a clear bias towards something in order to get a good and fair review? Ridiculous. Comparison between games is a good thing, and should especially be brought up in reviews to bring to light any sort of praise or downplay. Experience with other games, as well as experience with the game in question is absolutely needed, trying to judge things by only looking at one side of the fence is setting yourself up for disappointment.

But anyway, back to the main reason why I say this... you cant express with words the feeling of playing so you never know.

Yes, you can do that pretty well actually. It's easy. It's not hard to describe what you're feeling or not feeling, what you like and dont like, what you think should be there or what is.

Dont have a PS4? Well, then try asking a friend. Or try going into an electronics department of a shopping mall, or something like that

That's not always an option.

 

[NixxxoN]

If you feel someone is making you out to be stupid, they aren't, that is all on your own doing. No, you obviously don't get the point. Each post just solidifies that.


Then why would you purposely go to one with a strict bias towards GT, in order to get a review? That's just setting yourself up completely wrong. It goes fullheartedly with how you tell us not to believe reviews, yet you'd say you'd believe someone if they where a big GT fan. It's a double standard you're making glaringly obvious.


So you believe that no one is unbiased, yet youd go to one that has a clear bias towards something in order to get a good and fair review? Ridiculous. Comparison between games is a good thing, and should especially be brought up in reviews to bring to light any sort of praise or downplay. Experience with other games, as well as experience with the game in question is absolutely needed, trying to judge things by only looking at one side of the fence is setting yourself up for disappointment.


Yes, you can do that pretty well actually. It's easy. It's not hard to describe what your feeling or not feeling, what you like and dont like, what you think should be there or what is.


That's not always an option.

I do get the point, full stop.
I dont want a comparison with other games, If I had to listen to an opinion, I want someone who tells me if the next GT is good or not. Some people like me dont care about other racing games as long as the current GT is good enough.
But I repeat, nothing better than trying it yourself.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

I'm not missing any point AT ALL. Dont act like I'm stupid, I'm not.
I understand perfectly what you guys say.

Judging by this post, no, no you don't.

I think that NO ONE is unbiased. No one. One always will have a bit of preference for one game or the other.

Therefore if I had to listen to someone, I'd listen to people who really appreciate GT, and who better than a GT fan since GT1. Because people that are used to other racing games might find GT strange and not quite what you want. And the same works for the opposite.

So you'd rather an echo chamber. Got it.

Funnily enough, I've played GT since the first one, in 1998. I've met Kaz (got him to sign my GT1 manual), and I currently am editor here. Or do you mean something other than "fan"?

But anyway, back to the main reason why I say this... you cant express with words the feeling of playing so you never know.

I just put "short career mode" into words. It was really easy. I can also write "poor AI". Magic!

It sounds like you're focusing on the feel of the driving. People can have preferences in that regard, certainly, but it too can be put into words. A good example would be any of the dozens of car magazines you can grab off a shelf at a nearby store. They'll tell you how a particular, electrically-assisted wheel might not give as much feedback as the old hydraulic ones. They'll talk about how the suspension can't cope with bumps compared to a competitor.

Dont have a PS4? Well, then try asking a friend. Or try going into an electronics department of a shopping mall, or something like that.

Or, you know... read a review.

Both of those most certainly aren't a sure thing.

 

[ImaRobot]

I do get the point, full stop.
I dont want a comparison with other games, If I had to listen to an opinion, I want someone who tells me if the next GT is good or not. Some people like me dont care about other racing games as long as the current GT is good enough.
But I repeat, nothing better than trying it yourself.

So this is the edit to your "Sure, whatever." Reply?

A review will give you an idea if a game is good or not. It's up to you to decide if you'll give it the time of day or not.

 

[NixxxoN]

So you'd rather an echo chamber. Got it.

Funnily enough, I've played GT since the first one, in 1998. I've met Kaz (got him to sign my GT1 manual), and I currently am editor here. Or do you mean something other than "fan"?

I just put "short career mode" into words. It was really easy. I can also write "poor AI". Magic!

It sounds like you're focusing on the feel of the driving. People can have preferences in that regard, certainly, but it too can be put into words. A good example would be any of the dozens of car magazines you can grab off a shelf at a nearby store. They'll tell you how a particular, electrically-assisted wheel might not give as much feedback as the old hydraulic ones. They'll talk about how the suspension can't cope with bumps compared to a competitor.

Or, you know... read a review.

Both of those most certainly aren't a sure thing.

Echo chamber?
Your opinion as an editor... well, to me its just a random opinion and I dont give it much attention, sorry to say. If everyone was like me, you'd be out of work I suppose.
Car magazines? Pretty much the same, its much much better to try the car yourself. However thats a case when you are more forced to read reviews because having access to driving a car is much harder than having access to trying a videogame.

 

[Samus]

All those examples are not really relevant for everyone... as you might not care about the AI or rolling starts offline and you might focus on playing online therefore those dont matter much to you. And about the sounds... yeah it might be a factor but for some people it might be a secondary one and not a critical one.

That is the ruddy point. A review tells you about many facets of the game, some you may be interested in, some you may not, but if as in those examples information is given in tangible statements it can most certainly aid your purchase.

So if I DO care about AI and rolling starts, the review has given me solid information to help me decide.
If I don't care about sounds then that part of the review has not swayed me either way.

You read the reviews, see what they have to say on the parts you care about and use them to help decide.

Quite simple.

 

[NixxxoN]

That is the ruddy point. A review tells you about many facets of the game, some you may be interested in, some you may not, but if as in those examples information is given in tangible statements it can most certainly aid your purchase.

So if I DO care about AI and rolling starts, the review has given me solid information to help me decide.
If I don't care about sounds then that part of the review has not swayed me either way.

You read the reviews, see what they have to say on the parts you care about and use them to help decide.

Quite simple.

Sure thing... reviews can have some information that is useful. Yes. But still reviewers can be full of **** and seem like they played a different game.
Again I give the example of "Journey" for PS3. OMG. I think its the most overrated game of all times (overrated by reviewers)

 

[ImaRobot]

Echo chamber?
Your opinion as an editor is to me its just a random opinion and I dont give it much attention, sorry to say. If everyone was like me, you'd be out of work I suppose.

If you where even like you're pretending to be, than you wouldn't be here giving an opinion and reviewing someone's review.

Car magazines? Pretty much the same, its much much better to try the car yourself. However thats a case when you are more forced to read reviews because having access to driving a car is much harder than having access to trying a videogame.

Except no logical person would buy a car purely based on reviews without even stepping foot in it. Why do you keep bringing it up that way, no one is talking about it that way. We are talking about using the information from the review to see what you may or may not like, then next logical step is to try it out.

 

[Samus]

Sure thing... reviews can have some information that is useful. Yes. But still reviewers can be full of **** and seem like they played a different game.
Again I give the example of "Journey" for PS3. OMG. I think its the most overrated game of all times (overrated by reviewers)

Yes, it is still obviously true that different people like different things. That doesn't mean you can't still take something away from a review as long as it's in depth and not just "OMG THIS IS AWESOME, YOU SHOULD TOTALLY PLAY IT". Many reviews I can read or watch and know that the game isn't going to be something I like, even if the review is glowing and gives it 10/10. That's because they manage to tell me what the game is about, what it involves, how it plays generally etc.

You take the factual statements as factual statements (Journey is a game which involves you wandering through an empty desert for the most part) and the opinions (It was a wonderful journey which I enjoyed from start to finished) as opinions.

Again, it's not a tough concept.