Danoff
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MrktMkr,
I'd like to wrap up this discussion - yes I think that's possible.
I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on the state of racism in America today. I would argue that it is beside the point to the Affirmative Action discussion anyway - though you would probably argue that it is crucial.
Let us take Affirmative Action by itself and not attempt to ascertain the issue of racism in general.
Affirmative Action by itself is essentially offering preference to some students/job applicants due to skin color.
That is clearly racist.
What positive effects could Affirmative Action have? It could get some companies who might descriminate to fill quotas and thereby prevent descrimination. It also might get some universities to fill quotas - which could help correct descrimination at the high school, or college admissions level.
What negative effects could it have? It tells all of society that skin color is important. It tells all of society that people of certain skin colors need lower standards to be able to compete. It tells all of society that people of certain skin colors may not have earned their current position.
In short, in encourages society to see skin color and infer things - it promotes racism.
Additionally, it might cause a substantial amount of descrimination in the other direction - in other words, better qualified applicants might be turned down in favor of a worse applicant to fill a quota. That is an injustice.
I believe I have shown that Affirmative Action compromises it's own goals - and that it can never achieve them. It is a flawed concept from the beginning since it perpetuates what it seeks to destroy.
It should be eliminated on that basis. Can we agree on that? I honestly think there is a chance that you'll say yes to that question.
I'd like to wrap up this discussion - yes I think that's possible.
I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on the state of racism in America today. I would argue that it is beside the point to the Affirmative Action discussion anyway - though you would probably argue that it is crucial.
Let us take Affirmative Action by itself and not attempt to ascertain the issue of racism in general.
Affirmative Action by itself is essentially offering preference to some students/job applicants due to skin color.
That is clearly racist.
What positive effects could Affirmative Action have? It could get some companies who might descriminate to fill quotas and thereby prevent descrimination. It also might get some universities to fill quotas - which could help correct descrimination at the high school, or college admissions level.
What negative effects could it have? It tells all of society that skin color is important. It tells all of society that people of certain skin colors need lower standards to be able to compete. It tells all of society that people of certain skin colors may not have earned their current position.
In short, in encourages society to see skin color and infer things - it promotes racism.
Additionally, it might cause a substantial amount of descrimination in the other direction - in other words, better qualified applicants might be turned down in favor of a worse applicant to fill a quota. That is an injustice.
I believe I have shown that Affirmative Action compromises it's own goals - and that it can never achieve them. It is a flawed concept from the beginning since it perpetuates what it seeks to destroy.
It should be eliminated on that basis. Can we agree on that? I honestly think there is a chance that you'll say yes to that question.