Alfa Z-Cup - Johnnypenso and Carracerptp Z-Cup Co-Champions!

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I couldn't afford the Ferrari brand, so I have to do it Russian-style

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There may have been a time or two where I put on my snowmobile helmet while racing...Only to humor my little cousins though I promise.

Sidenote, what are peoples time looking like at Daytona. I spent about an hour there the other day and got around 2:06:500. That first corner is still giving me a troubles though.

I don't remember my time (most likey 3-4 seconds slower than the fast guys), but leaving on 30% throttle while breaking into turn 1 kept my Alfa much more stable than breaks only. Hope that helps.
 
:drool: I sure hope this is what Santa's bringing me this year!! 5 monitors plus an iPhone showing telemetry!!!!

That was awesome. GT5 allows for a 3 monitor set up I believe. Even that would be cool. The more peripheral vision the better. From what I saw, didn't help this dudes driving any :yuck:

I don't remember my time (most likey 3-4 seconds slower than the fast guys), but leaving on 30% throttle while breaking into turn 1 kept my Alfa much more stable than breaks only. Hope that helps.

Although I haven't tried it in the first corner at Daytona, a general rule of thumb is that partial throttle tends to push most cars towards understeer. So if you have a car like the Alfa where when you lift off it goes into oversteer mode, combined with an oversteer corner like the first at Daytona, a small amount of throttle will often smooth that out. Works on any corner or any situation if need be. It's one of the beautiful things about the Alfa is that you can drive by throttle just like real race cars from that era, inducing over and understeer not by steering but with your right and left foot:idea:.

In fact you have to drive by throttle to get the most out of it. It's a bit counterintuitive to add a bit of throttle when the back end wants to come around, your natural instinct is going to be to go slower or brake so it takes some getting used to. Once you work on and maybe master that, you'll see your lap times fall significantly. 👍
 
That was awesome. GT5 allows for a 3 monitor set up I believe. Even that would be cool. The more peripheral vision the better. From what I saw, didn't help this dudes driving any :yuck:

I read a writeup on that somewhere. I think you have to have 3 PS3's to do it. As sweet as that would be, that's a lot of cash to drop on 3 PS3's, 3 TV's, a wheel, seat, stand, etc.
 
I read a writeup on that somewhere. I think you have to have 3 PS3's to do it. As sweet as that would be, that's a lot of cash to drop on 3 PS3's, 3 TV's, a wheel, seat, stand, etc.

Apparently you can have up to 5, but you need 5 PS3s.
Plus five copies of GT5!
 
What scares me is that after the first of the year I'm going to have more than enough disposable money to spend on triple screen setup...........I'm trying to keep those thoughts out of my head!!!!:scared:
 
I don't remember my time (most likey 3-4 seconds slower than the fast guys), but leaving on 30% throttle while breaking into turn 1 kept my Alfa much more stable than breaks only. Hope that helps.

...It's one of the beautiful things about the Alfa is that you can drive by throttle just like real race cars from that era, inducing over and understeer not by steering but with your right and left foot...

Thanks for the advice. I'll have to give the two footed driving a go. I've always used just my right foot, but now is as good as time as anytime to learn. Thanks again.
 
So if you have a car like the Alfa where when you lift off it goes into oversteer mode, combined with an oversteer corner like the first at Daytona, a small amount of throttle will often smooth that out. Works on any corner or any situation if need be. It's one of the beautiful things about the Alfa is that you can drive by throttle just like real race cars from that era, inducing over and understeer not by steering but with your right and left foot.

:scared: I can drive "relatively" well with a wide variety of cars/tunes, but one thing I always try to remove from cars with tuning is lift off oversteer. I don't mind exit oversteer, but lift off oversteer just kills me.

I guess this is going to be a learning experience.
 
What scares me is that after the first of the year I'm going to have more than enough disposable money to spend on triple screen setup...........I'm trying to keep those thoughts out of my head!!!!:scared:

Tax time too? One of Fanetec's new wheels is calling my name but my wife tends to keep those thoughts out of my head for me...
 
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What scares me is that after the first of the year I'm going to have more than enough disposable money to spend on triple screen setup...........I'm trying to keep those thoughts out of my head!!!!:scared:

Dude. I will do it of you do it. LOL

Once my car is finished. I want to build a PC and buy a triple monitor set up.

This Samsung set up is what I lust for:

http://m.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LS23MUQHB/ZA#specs

Triple monitor with very very little bezel. Can be had got under 2grand

So my options this year are either new 60"+ Plazma higher end. Or that triple monitor.

Either will be purchased for gaming purposes. The triple monitor I lose my Surround sound sorta unless I block main tv with cock pit and monitors.

So it's a tough call. Could do head phones and triple monitor. Then add another butt kicker.

Also the triple PS3 is serious deal breaker. I don't need not want 2 more PS3's be my luck buy two more and with in 6 months PS4 will be released. LOL

Fwiw I got about 4 grand after buying car parts and misc things I need.

Hmmmm Brandon you pull the trigger I will too. Actually got another local guy looking to do trips. So maybe we could get a deal on 9 monitors. Hmmmm
 
Dude. I will do it of you do it. LOL

Once my car is finished. I want to build a PC and buy a triple monitor set up.

This Samsung set up is what I lust for:

http://m.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LS23MUQHB/ZA#specs

Triple monitor with very very little bezel. Can be had got under 2grand

3 - 23" monitors for $2k+? Can't you just buy three monitors separately for about $600 and do the same thing? My 23" is about 2 years old now and the bezel is about 3/4". I'm sure you could get something off the shelf now with 1/2" or less.
 
I've done the math on my end and I could get everything I need for triple-screen GT5 goodness for around $600 (2 used PS3's @ $150 each, 2 used 32" tv's for ~$200 each, 2 copies of GT5 @ $40 each). I just don't think I can justify such deliciousness!

But look at it!! The sense of speed is amazing, even on a youtube video! Just so happens that this video starts off with the Alfa cockpit. :)

 
Those things have like 1/6th inch. Also can be had for under 1900 a set of three at a few places. Click Shop. Imagine with some work a guy could get them for 1600-1800 if buying three sets (9 monitors)

So really it isn't that bad of a deal. Considering they are gonna give you very saemless feel and be simply awesome.

Honestly Johnny, I have considered selling my Evo and just drive the Jeep. I've been about 2.5 years with the car down. My feelings may change when I bring it back out. HP in real world is extremely addicting. So before getting buck wild Sim racing. I may be smart to see where I am with the Evo back on the road. fwiw it was running 12.0's and notta wrong with it when I went for more HP. One of these things I ask myself. How smart was this idea. You now invested obscene money and time, the car is worth the same as it was stock 2yrs ago.

It's more self satisfaction then anything. Something's just cant be justified. Only answer is, I wanted too. :)
 
Not sure how thick the bezel is, but we've had quite a few of the Dell UltraSharp U2312HM 23-inch LED monitors in work. They're $239 on the USA Dell website. Worth a look as our users love them!
 
:scared: I can drive "relatively" well with a wide variety of cars/tunes, but one thing I always try to remove from cars with tuning is lift off oversteer. I don't mind exit oversteer, but lift off oversteer just kills me.

I guess this is going to be a learning experience.
Don't worry about it. I don't think I purposefully give it gas in corners for stability. I might just brake a lil earlier into corners like turn one @Daytona and smooth inputs.

I'm guessing this braking and giving it a bit of gas is just to be able to apply a little less braking force to the rear wheels when they are unloaded, leaving a hair more grip for turning. One can certainly achieve it through other means. Either lower BB magnitude while preserving the bias. That way you can apply less braking force to the rears. Alternatively, shift BB waaay forward before that turn one. Conveniently, there's a long straight just before it and a minor straight right after.


What scares me is that after the first of the year I'm going to have more than enough disposable money to spend on triple screen setup...........I'm trying to keep those thoughts out of my head!!!!:scared:
Weren't you thinking about an STI? ;)
 
^ Insurance and premium fuel are pretty much a deal breaker on that one. Insurance would be nearly double and fuel would be quite a bit more on top of that.
 
^ Insurance and premium fuel are pretty much a deal breaker on that one. Insurance would be nearly double and fuel would be quite a bit more on top of that.
Oh, I did a quote for an STI hatch and it was just a few bucks per month more than what I currently pay. Didn't try the sedan though, those might be more pricey to insure.
 
Don't worry about it. I don't think I purposefully give it gas in corners for stability. I might just brake a lil earlier into corners like turn one @Daytona and smooth inputs.

I'm guessing this braking and giving it a bit of gas is just to be able to apply a little less braking force to the rear wheels when they are unloaded, leaving a hair more grip for turning. One can certainly achieve it through other means. Either lower BB magnitude while preserving the bias. That way you can apply less braking force to the rears. Alternatively, shift BB waaay forward before that turn one. Conveniently, there's a long straight just before it and a minor straight right after.

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I consider Daytona Road to be one of my better tracks ever since the British Invasion Online event. I'm anxious to drive this Alfa to see how it handles relative to the Jaguar XKR Coupe '10 which we ran on sports soft tires. I know the Jaguar was a complete handful for turn 1 when I first drove it, but by the end of the week it felt very natural. We also ran that event without tuning and I had no problem with lift off oversteer, but the alfa may just be a different animal given how much lighter it is.

Jag: 512HP, 1810 kg, 211 w/kg
Alfa: 173HP, 520 kg, 208 w/kg​

I might not be able to step into the Alfa (or even buy it) until January 3rd so I'm not going to have much prep time for the first race at Daytona -- hoping my experience there helps out. Although my snowboarding trip may be cancelled due to 0" snow at the resort to date so I may be back online by Dec 28th instead. Either way I plan a "crash course" in the Alfa that first week.
 
I thought he was going to get into kart racing...


Yep, I've shifted my wanty-gaze from an STI to a racing kart. Kinda cold to be test driving karts right now though, will have to wait till it gets warmer before I can really start investigating that. Or part of that money could go towards a drool-inducing triple screen GT5 setup, which would definitely get more use but still can't really be justified! :crazy:


I consider Daytona Road to be one of my better tracks ever since the British Invasion Online event. I'm anxious to drive this Alfa to see how it handles relative to the Jaguar XKR Coupe '10 which we ran on sports soft tires. I know the Jaguar was a complete handful for turn 1 when I first drove it, but by the end of the week it felt very natural. We also ran that event without tuning and I had no problem with lift off oversteer, but the alfa may just be a different animal given how much lighter it is.

Jag: 512HP, 1810 kg, 211 w/kg
Alfa: 173HP, 520 kg, 208 w/kg

I might not be able to step into the Alfa (or even buy it) until January 3rd so I'm not going to have much prep time for the first race at Daytona -- hoping my experience there helps out. Although my snowboarding trip may be cancelled due to 0" snow at the resort to date so I may be back online by Dec 28th instead. Either way I plan a "crash course" in the Alfa that first week.

There really isn't that much lift-off oversteer, not enough to break the back end loose or anything. It just tends to turn-in pretty quickly, depending on brake balance. It's actually a very well behaved car and I doubt you'll have any problem getting comfortable with it quickly. If my back end ever does get loose I rarely even have to lift, just correct the wheel attitude and it brings itself back around. I've always had trouble with T1 at Daytona Road and I've had very little problem with it in the Alfa. Of course your experience may vary but I don't think you have anything to worry about. :)
 
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I consider Daytona Road to be one of my better tracks ever since the British Invasion Online event. I'm anxious to drive this Alfa to see how it handles relative to the Jaguar XKR Coupe '10 which we ran on sports soft tires. I know the Jaguar was a complete handful for turn 1 when I first drove it, but by the end of the week it felt very natural. We also ran that event without tuning and I had no problem with lift off oversteer, but the alfa may just be a different animal given how much lighter it is.

Jag: 512HP, 1810 kg, 211 w/kg
Alfa: 173HP, 520 kg, 208 w/kg​

I might not be able to step into the Alfa (or even buy it) until January 3rd so I'm not going to have much prep time for the first race at Daytona -- hoping my experience there helps out. Although my snowboarding trip may be cancelled due to 0" snow at the resort to date so I may be back online by Dec 28th instead. Either way I plan a "crash course" in the Alfa that first week.

I don't think you'll have much to worry about... I think the Alfa is one of the most user-friendly and forgiving cars I've ever driven in GT5. I'm able to be much more competitive right out of the box with the Alfa than I ever was with the Cappuccino, or any other car I've raced with. I'm sure there are a few other guys in this group that feel the same way.
 
Speaking of blowing money, is everyone buying the new DLC tomorrow?

I'm looking forward to the new kart, Golf R and especially the Scirocco R... Haven't looked into the price, but hopefully I have enough PSN money left over from the last purchase.
 
I believe it's only 4 bucks. I plan on getting it and should have enough left over from the first batch of DLC. I think the update comes tomorrow but the DLC doesn't come until the day after that.
 
I'm really only looking forward to the kart and the Scirocco, but it's only 4 bucks so it's kinda hard not to get it. :dunce:
 
Well since the topic atm is triple screens I will just contribute one(or 3) more reason for you not to blow your money away, enjoy:

 
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