Aliens

[BHRxRacer]

Ah, of course, I must speak a completely differing kind of English. Retract your claim or really find where I said that because that quote doesn't cut it.

Me: You're invited to the tin foil club (joke)
You: You're not joking.
Me: You think something that stupid, that ridiculous, that obvious of a joke, was serious?
You: Anything can come from you

I won't even bother explaining to you how prejudice that was. If you can't see, or if you're in denial, you're on your own.

???

...here

How do you know it wasn't moving towards you with a light on from a long way off? Sounds to me like it flew towards you and then changed direction...

me: It was still, then it moved to the end of the horizon.
you: How do you know it wasn't coming towards you and changed direction

OBVIOUSLY, if what you said is true it would mean it's a 90 degree turn. That's the "direction change". If so, then OBVIOUSLY it's instant.

I give up.

I gave up a long time ago, but I gotta get to the bottom of it.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Me: You're invited to the tin foil club (joke)
You: You're not joking.
Me: You think something that stupid, that ridiculous, that obvious of a joke, was serious?
You: Anything can come from you

So you admit that you have preconceptions about the members before reading their opinion. Okay

Do you know what a preconception is? Because I wrote that after, which isn't before, because it's after. So... retract the claim or give a source.

me: It was still, then it moved to the end of the horizon.
you: How do you know it wasn't coming towards you and changed direction

OBVIOUSLY, if what you said is true it would mean it's a 90 degree turn. That's the "direction change". If so, then OBVIOUSLY it's instant.

No, that's not how it works here. You don't make a claim with no source or (as is more appropriate here) a decent description of events. Saying things are obvious is no help, your account is already incredible, it's not up to us to figure out what you're talking about.

It's up to you to figure it out, and I wish you the best of British.

 

[BHRxRacer]

Do you know what a preconception is? Because I wrote that after, which isn't before, because it's after. So... retract the claim or give a source.




No, that's not how it works here. You don't make a claim with no source or (as is more appropriate here) a decent description of events. Saying things are obvious is no help, your account is already incredible, it's not up to us to figure out what you're talking about.

It's up to you to figure it out, and I wish you the best of British.

It doesn't matter when you wrote it, you wouldn't have assumed I wasn't kidding unless the thought was already in your head that I would say something that ridiculous.

As for the 90 degree bit, I really don't need to explain more. You were just nitpicking. I'll be nice and explain a little better in case your imagination is dead.

If you were looking at what I saw dead on, this is what you would see. A is the object, B is the farthest you could see on the left.

B--------------------A
B--------------------A
B--------------------A
B--------------------A
B--------------------A
B-------------------A
B------------------A
B-----------------A
B----------------A
B---------------A
B--------------A
B-------------A
B------------A
B-----------A
B----------A
B---------A
B--------A
B-------A
B------A
B-----A
B----A
B---A
B--A
B-A
A
.


....**** it I'll continue this tomorrow, if I feel like it.

 

[ULTRAVIOLENZZ]

@BHRxRacer Try to illustrate what you saw like I did on post #1338. So at least we can have an estimate on how far are you from the object, how big the object was, how fast the object was etc...

 

[Dotini]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ound-in-Chhattisgarh/articleshow/38435091.cms

Odd paintings 10,000 years old look very much like big-headed aliens or possibly helmeted humans along with what looks like a domed UFO with tripod landing gear. What's very interesting is that these figures have been repeated all over the world in other cave paintings - big headed humanoid figures which obviously had some enormous significance within the ancient cultures. But these ancient people soon moved on from enigmatic cave paintings to building huge structures that still stand today.

 

[ULTRAVIOLENZZ]

http://listverse.com/2014/07/18/10-infamous-ufo-sightings-with-unbelievably-simple-explanations/

 

[BHRxRacer]

@BHRxRacer Try to illustrate what you saw like I did on post #1338. So at least we can have an estimate on how far are you from the object, how big the object was, how fast the object was etc...

I've decided not to, to be honest. I've said enough, take from it what you wish. Sorry.

 

[Sprite]

Not sure if posted yet, but this is from the latest batch of images from NASAs rover on Mars.

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-im...ncam/NRB_458574869EDR_F0390444NCAM00295M_.JPG

 

[kikie]

Mars doesn't look 'alien' to me. It looks more familiar (earth like) than 'alien'.

 

[PeterJB]

Tatooine is always the first thing that comes to mind.

 

[Sprite]

Anyone spot the UFO in the sky? Or that's what the conspiracy nuts are claiming.

 

[Dean]

I would've said it was a bird, but since it's on Mars that's most likely not true. I can't really see what it is though.

 

[FoolKiller]

Anyone spot the UFO in the sky? Or that's what the conspiracy nuts are claiming.

Looks like dust on the lens to me.

 

[35mm]

Looks like dust on the lens to me.

Except dust on a lens won't show in a picture.

 

[FoolKiller]

Except dust on a lens won't show in a picture.

Dirt, dust, grit, whatever. Something blocks enouh light entering the camera and you will get a black spot.

 

[Sprite]

Although I agree with you @FoolKiller that it isn't a UFO. I have to rule it out as dust also.

A speck of dust, dirt etc on the lens would be out of focus in this shot and at worst would display as a dust bunny (there is evidence of this in other shots from the same batch) so I can't really say what it could be. NASA messing with images to increase funding?

 

[TenEightyOne]

I think it's spectral, both the black and white anomalies occur at about the same level.

 

[kikie]

It's a martian fly.

 

[FoolKiller]

Although I agree with you @FoolKiller that it isn't a UFO. I have to rule it out as dust also.

A speck of dust, dirt etc on the lens would be out of focus in this shot and at worst would display as a dust bunny (there is evidence of this in other shots from the same batch) so I can't really say what it could be. NASA messing with images to increase funding?

Then explain this.

It's labelled as dirt on an image sensor. Those specks look very similar.

 

[35mm]

dirt on an image sensor.

Now you got it right.

It's the only "dirty" explanation for the spec in the image.

 

[FoolKiller]

Now you got it right.

It's the only "dirty" explanation for the spec in the image.

You will have to pardon my inadequate terminology usage.

 

[35mm]

You will have to pardon my inadequate terminology usage.

Please understand that I wasn't just being an ass about it. It's because it is a bit more difficult explaining dirt/dust getting into the sensor of a camera that (I assume) should be airtight and in which no lens swap is envolved.

Having said that, I will believe that before believing it is a flying saucer.

 

[FoolKiller]

Please understand that I wasn't just being an ass about it. It's because it is a bit more difficult explaining dirt/dust getting into the sensor of a camera that (I assume) should be airtight and in which no lens swap is envolved.

It fell from the sky, after being thrust into space on a rocket, into a very harsh climate. It has survived there for years. If it is Opportunity it has been 10 years. Curiosity has been there for 2 years.

A speck on a sensor doesn't sound too unreasonable.

 

[Touring Mars]

It is just a noise speck on the detector, maybe a cosmic ray hitting one of the detectors but not the other... as was the case before when someone posted an apparently strange object on Mars (a 'beam of light' coming out of the ground), it turned out to be an artefact in one of the detectors. Curiosity has multiple cameras, and the image posted here is from one of the two front-facing navigation cameras, in this case the Right navcam. The Left navcam has a corresponding image taken at precisely the same moment... but there's nothing there.


RIGHT

LEFT

 

[Sprite]

@FoolKiller I agree a peice of dirt on the censor would cause such an anomaly if it was large enough. Most small bits in my own censor create round dull orbs and not such a dark speck. What I found interesting, the same speck wasn't seen in any other of the images from the same sequence.

NASA may employ a CCD vibration tech to knock off large particulates of dirt.

As NASA have made any kind of comment I suspect they feel it's of no interest to them. Quite amusing the shape is a typical UFO shape.

 

[FoolKiller]

Quite amusing the shape is a typical UFO shape.

You mean 1950's style flying saucer?

TM ended the rest if this conversation.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

As NASA have made any kind of comment I suspect they feel it's of no interest to them. Quite amusing the shape is a typical UFO shape.

NASA usually don't care to make comments even when there seems to be more to go on than a lonely speck. Also I guess it's a bit of irony that the speck is circular but I wouldn't call that the typical shape, unless it's the era @FoolKiller mentioned

 

[Michael88]

Yesterday I couldn't sleep because mosquitoes were circling around my face like flies around a pile of poop. Thats why I was still awake at 4:30 when I suddenly saw a triangular very brightly lit object flying under the clouds, doing irrational and physics defying maneuvers. It left no trace, there was no sound, and I could observe it for at least 2 minutes till it vanished at the horizon. It was also very fast at times, but it made strange stop's and goes. It was flying S-N.

Doesn't really blow me off my socks though, I live in a very rural are and see such things every week. (But only in summer). Locals even held a gathering to talk about strange planes flying crazy impossible maneuvers, so numerous are the sightings around here.

Its like Belgium in the early ninetieths around here, but nobody gives a damn.

 

[Dotini]

Yesterday I couldn't sleep because mosquitoes were circling around my face like flies around a pile of poop. Thats why I was still awake at 4:30 when I suddenly saw a triangular very brightly lit object flying under the clouds, doing irrational and physics defying maneuvers. It left no trace, there was no sound, and I could observe it for at least 2 minutes till it vanished at the horizon. It was also very fast at times, but it made strange stop's and goes. It was flying S-N.

Doesn't really blow me off my socks though, I live in a very rural are and see such things every week. (But only in summer). Locals even held a gathering to talk about strange planes flying crazy impossible maneuvers, so numerous are the sightings around here.

Its like Belgium in the early ninetieths around here, but nobody gives a damn.

Nice report. You mentioned clouds - were these thunderclouds? Had there been lightning or thunder in the area? Have any of the witnesses included policemen, pilots or politicians? If it's like the Belgium flap, it will have had a starting point, go on for a few years, then stop. Eventually someone will investigate, and come up with a mystery. It would be good to track the local news and attend some local gatherings. Enjoy!

 

[Michael88]

Nice report. You mentioned clouds - were these thunderclouds? . Enjoy!

No, just very light rain clouds. No witnesses, though I see those things regularly and observe the night sky with friends so we can watch those phenomenas together. The problem is it usually happens just half an hour before dawn so witnesses are scarce. I'm the only nightowl around here, though I have woken up friends when I saw one and they could see it too, which frightened them quiet a bit.
I started to see those lights 5 years ago when I moved here, I can see those lights only on hot summer days, but I see like 3 or 4 tiny lights / night and a really big one at least once per week. And other strange things.

I tried to observe one with my 16x telescope but it hardly magnified the object, whatever it was, that one was at very high up there. Its illumination was probably caused by surface refection from the sun. It flew amazingly fast circles though.

Also whats funny is that once I observed an overly bright star, suddenly it started to move, changed its position and remained there till sunrise.

And in case you are wondering, I have very good eyes, don't drink and don't do drugs.

Oh, and maybe I should mention it, only 2 kilometers from here we have a very large (unmanned) flight radar station.