All my GT5 videos /latest: SLS - SSR5, F430 - Suzuka Rain, Pit Stop, Data Logger/

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I'm a bit disappointed with what we have seen so far, so I'm not expecting any surprises when I do get the game. But you have to think about what PD has done these past 5.5 years working on GT5. In 2008, the game already looked nice. Kaz even said it was 90% complete. So for the past two years they've just just been pretty much polishing the game and they added the weather system in 2009. Why do you need to polish a game for two years?

Hell on top of that, the weather was made on only a few select tracks.

I agree completely... They´ve implemented weather and damage in less than 1 year. made ~10 new tracks and ~100 new cars since GT5P... I also read that the events in GT-Mode are copy&past from GT4...

I also wonder what they did in 6 years... But we´ll see in 8 days... It will be anyway an awesome game but the expectations were very high after that long production time...
 
We'd better get our hopes up!

(Or not.)

Wishful thinking is a dangerous thing. I find it hard to believe that there is more than it would seem there is.

I agree there's a chance that there could be surprises hidden that will require some kind of "activation", but this "early build" (so they take 5.5years to put all that there, and then 2 weeks to add a load more?) stuff, "viral marketing by SONY" is too far-fetched.
 
you guys are all hillarious with your conspiracies.... hahaha it's amazing what emotions we go through whilst waiting for this game....

Maybe when we find that one true disc version of GT5 (the holy grail) we will also find documents telling us who really killed JFK??? oh and the remains of the aliens in area 51...
 
It's not even 6 years guys. The PS3 was released in '06 which makes it just over 4.

Plus i remember not long after Prologue was released, Kaz said PD were just focusing on the free DLC for Prologue, not working on GT5. THEN came GTPSP which obviously took up some of their time.

You shouldn' assume that all those years were just constantly focused on GT5, PD did do other things like said games.
 
you guys are all hillarious with your conspiracies.... hahaha it's amazing what emotions we go through whilst waiting for this game....

Maybe when we find that one true disc version of GT5 (the holy grail) we will also find documents telling us who really killed JFK??? oh and the remains of the aliens in area 51...

No offense, but Japanese people come up with some weird and interesting things sometimes that pops up out of nowhere when you least expect it.

Kaz said to expect a surprise. We'll see next week.
 
No offense, but Japanese people come up with some weird and interesting things sometimes that pops up out of nowhere when you least expect it.

Kaz said to expect a surprise. We'll see next week.

well here's another conspiracy theory... what if kaz has let this game info get out there (via tekken) to gauge public/fan opinion.... and on launch day when we load the disc there is a patch to make some changes to what we have seen thus far??? perhaps to change the damage model..... add a few more details not seen?? the possibilities are endless...................
 
b) Tekken has the full game has we will have it next week and if so, the thing was clearly and outrageously rushed and unpolished (premium/standard cars thing, lack of track variety, where's Siena track?, no brake upgrades?, where's the crowds and ambience on the Ring showned before, damage is a joke compared to the demos builds). If so, this is a true stab in PD's and GT's tradition...

There's plenty of track variety, to the extent that GT5 has more tracks than any other console racing game with the exception of GT4. If that's not enough for you, then i'm not sure how you can be happy with any racing game on a console outside of GT4. As far as the crowds and ambiance goes on the Ring, that's only for the 24h Ring, and he clearly wasn't on that.
 
There's plenty of track variety, to the extent that GT5 has more tracks than any other console racing game with the exception of GT4. If that's not enough for you, then i'm not sure how you can be happy with any racing game on a console outside of GT4. As far as the crowds and ambiance goes on the Ring, that's only for the 24h Ring, and he clearly wasn't on that.

I'm pretty sure he was referring to "unique" tracks.
 
I'm pretty sure he was referring to "unique" tracks.

Yes, and there are 27 unique tracks, which is more than any other console racing game with the exception of GT4. All of bullie77's complaints can easily be shot down, and none of them being a stab in PD/GT's tradition.
 
oh no i may have become part of the mass delusion......

Haha, well for my own conspiracy I think the Standard Car trailer may have been released and then pulled(?) to gauge public reaction, though I'm not exactly sure what they could have done about it. Damage may have been toned down because it looked pretty silly in some of the demos.
 
I have another conspiracy theory for you guys. What if some features/tracks/cars will be automaticly unlocked accordingly to release date? :D
Personally I think what we seen in these leaked footages is what we'll get. Deal with it Don't get your hopes too high, becouse you'll be very disappointed insted of enjoying great racing game.
 
Tekken 90 On your tuning shop parts video, in engine tuning you have a sports ECU did you win or unlock this? also is that available on other cars than the civic or is there more parts available for other cars?

Asking this due to the Items folder in the game, where the paint, horns and engine parts are, have you got anything in the engine parts folder in the items section?
 
Perhaps it has something to do with the delay? These copies could have been produced mid-October before the game got pushed back for unknown reasons. Sony may have discarded them and now they're being sold. I just don't see why the damage system would be toned down so severely.

The running costs of a situation like that would be very high (imagine a full batch of discs being thrown to the garbage) and I find it hard to believe that a company with Sony's experience would make such a mistake. It can happen though, but highly unlikely in my opinion. Besides, what would be the reason to do that first batch of discs with a toned down damage if by the time we had already seen better examples of damage in demos?

buc
I agree with you. I can't see how they can tone everything down for final build, my first theory was its a beta test copy. Lets hope it's all a big suprise.

Could be. Who knows? Maybe even Tekken doesn't know it and think he as a full legit copy of the game (and, once again, he MIGHT have!).

I, personally, do not judge or blame tekken! I am grateful for his videos!
All our thoughts are speculations, all I can say to tekken:
"No offense, man! But people are suspicious nowadays!"
:)


I don't think anyone's blaming Tekken :dunce:. So I don't know where did you came up with that conclusion. If anything, we must thanks Tekken for the videos, he's done more in the last few days than PD/Sony regarding unveiling things from the game have done in the last 2 years.

But that something is strange comparing Tekken's footage and what we known since the demos, and I bet that even Tekken would agree on this. The reason why, PD only knows why...

We'd better get our hopes up!

(Or not.)

Wishful thinking is a dangerous thing. I find it hard to believe that there is more than it would seem there is.

I agree there's a chance that there could be surprises hidden that will require some kind of "activation", but this "early build" (so they take 5.5years to put all that there, and then 2 weeks to add a load more?) stuff, "viral marketing by SONY" is too far-fetched.

I agree with you. Call me a pessismist but I don't think there'll be any major surprises left. That turning out to be truth however, does raise the question: WHY? (Differences between Demos and Final Build)

Someone said earlier that perhaps damage integration is progressive, being more intense as further you go down the game. It is possible but I don't see the reasoning behind it considering it is the "Real Driving Simulator". Damage is there, its both valid and decisive for either a FIAT 500F or a SuperGT Nissan GT-R...

you guys are all hillarious with your conspiracies.... hahaha it's amazing what emotions we go through whilst waiting for this game....

Maybe when we find that one true disc version of GT5 (the holy grail) we will also find documents telling us who really killed JFK??? oh and the remains of the aliens in area 51...

I would be sufficiently happy enough if after the game is in my hands I can answer the questions that are being raised here. Why the "apparently" tuning down of some features - specifically damage. What ever happen to the Siena track (wasn't only the flags an issue?)?

No conspiracy theories here in my opinion. Just logical questions from what we know. I give however that the answer to all could be as simple as "because that's all that you get".

There's plenty of track variety, to the extent that GT5 has more tracks than any other console racing game with the exception of GT4. If that's not enough for you, then i'm not sure how you can be happy with any racing game on a console outside of GT4. As far as the crowds and ambiance goes on the Ring, that's only for the 24h Ring, and he clearly wasn't on that.

I was refering to unique tracks. And from my perspective, isn't the fact that "it has more tracks than any other racing games" that would make it brilliant or outstanding track list. From that perspective, it would suffice you that the track list was 1 more that the second console game. I might be wrong but I think otherwise. Specially considering that tracks (important, specially due to the series that are "officialy" represented in the game - WRC, SuperGT, Nascar) are missing from GT4 (why?! I'd like to know).

We are talking about GT series here. Not a small-budgeted obscure racing game. But for a comparison purpose, Supercar Challenge (that was one small budgeted game) had 11 unique tracks, being only one a fantasy one (Riviera). That as much as real life circuit featured in GT5. This is disappointing to me. It's not for you - good thing!
 
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No conspiracy theories here in my opinion. Just logical questions from what we know. I give however that the answer to all could be as simple as "because that's all that you get".

I think the conspiracies involve implicating Tekken as part of a dubiously motivated viral campaign among other things.

We've been told since the reveal that the Sienna kart track was limited to karts (and seemingly Fiat 500s). That's one thing I'm not ruling out just yet and I'm still expecting it to be part of the Grand Tour along with Bern. The flag thing might have killed it but we'll find out soon enough.
 
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I think the conspiracies involve implicating Tekken as part of a dubiously motivated viral campaign among other things.

I can speak only for myself, but as I said before, I consider that hypotesis of a viral marketing strategy involving Tekken highly unlikely.
 
I don't think anyone's blaming Tekken :dunce:. So I don't know where did you came up with that conclusion. If anything, we must thanks Tekken for the videos, he's done more in the last few days than PD/Sony regarding unveiling things from the game have done in the last 2 years.
Oh, no, I'm not saying that others are blaming him. It's just all these conspiracy talks here can push tekken away from uploading new cool stuff. That's it. :)
 
buc
I agree with you. I can't see how they can tone everything down for final build, my first theory was its a beta test copy. Lets hope it's all a big suprise.

Are you sure? i dont think Sony/PD PRINT discs for fun, acording to this times(just 9 days to release)

Anyone ask to Tekken where he got the copy??
 
I have another conspiracy theory for you guys. What if some features/tracks/cars will be automaticly unlocked accordingly to release date? :D
Personally I think what we seen in these leaked footages is what we'll get. Deal with it Don't get your hopes too high, becouse you'll be very disappointed insted of enjoying great racing game.

That is possible and maybe the track lists are just a reaction to sony so that the leaked games have nothing on them, so they have annouced only the tracks on the locked games.
 
All of these theories are very unlikely in my opinion.

I think that the stuff we get so see from tekken90 is the final GT5.

The positive aspect of this thinking ist, that i'm not gonna be disappointed next week - if it's like that.
 
That is possible and maybe the track lists are just a reaction to sony so that the leaked games have nothing on them, so they have annouced only the tracks on the locked games.

I think that isn't the best way to get good scores hide content to journalists, and the metacritic scores is the new golden calf.
 
Really confused about what we have seen. The packaging first of all looked unprofessional and it says about sparks yet they dont seem to be in the game?

The damage seems to have been toned down heavily almost to the point where it's barely there.

The kart track we all saw has vanished from the official track list and were any karts mentioned on the official car list?

Something just doesn't feel right to me.
 
NBH
Really confused about what we have seen. The packaging first of all looked unprofessional and it says about sparks yet they dont seem to be in the game?

The damage seems to have been toned down heavily almost to the point where it's barely there.

The kart track we all saw has vanished from the official track list and were any karts mentioned on the official car list?

Something just doesn't feel right to me.

You can see the sparks in the Deep Forest license test video.
 
@ NBH


just wait......very soon you will see if your thoughts are right or wrong.....

so far a handful people have access to the game...
 
Are you sure? i dont think Sony/PD PRINT discs for fun, acording to this times(just 9 days to release)

Anyone ask to Tekken where he got the copy??

Dont know dude, after reading Top Gear Magazine feature, he starts off with explaining how much debris is on the track after collisions etc.. i can't see how they can say that when in reality its toned down and have not seen a bumper fall off after a 150mph collision. Im not fussed about damage and i wont be crashing on purpose.

By all means im going to buy the game and love every minute of it. The wheel issue is the only thing i have against it.
 
NBH
The kart track we all saw has vanished from the official track list and were any karts mentioned on the official car list?

Yes, well one, but I wasn't expecting more than that. Confirmed from the videos the karting special event is still there and there are two Kart based course maker areas.
 
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