All-Purpose Guide to the B-Spec Online Seasonal: La Sarthe

[TommyWizard]

Sitting 3rd on lap 5 in a 787B.
Fingers crossed! Will update ASAP

Ok, babysitting over for that part

Pitted lap 3 for R/IM (+5 Litres of fuel)
Lap 5 he took third
Lap 6 he's into second, right behind leader at start finish

....

Forget it, he hit that blooming slow glitch on lap nine. Will have to settle for third. Furious.
Hit again on lap 10, he was right in the blue. What a tube!

 

[SnyDX]

If your using any car other than the 2J, it is imperative to pit on lap 3. Too early the tyres won't last, too late and you will lose too much time.

Reading famine's post that you quoted, he is simply telling you of a possible risk when pitting in a cluster of cars.

Yes, that.

Some people like to bring their cars in on lap 2 or lap 4 - if you can run lap 3 on Race Inters and not lose time, or run lap 4 on Race Hards and not lose time it's a good idea, because you don't get held up by other cars in the pits - and the Race Inters certainly don't seem to mind running an extra lap when it's raining. Lap 3's probably the ideal time but you might like to have an alternate strategy if you're in a pack of AI cars.

Thank you for the answer. I will try this when i get home.

 

[crooky369]

Sitting 3rd on lap 5 in a 787B.
Fingers crossed! Will update ASAP

Ok, babysitting over for that part

Pitted lap 3 for R/IM (+5 Litres of fuel)
Lap 5 he took third
Lap 6 he's into second, right behind leader at start finish

....

Forget it, he hit that blooming slow glitch on lap nine. Will have to settle for third. Furious.

How much tyres do you have left?

Ah just saw you're edit. We're you on a 1 stop or 2 stop strategy?

 

[Grease]

did this in my first try with the R8 team Oreca.

Pitted in lap 3 with the others and held on to the same tires for the rest of the race.

 

[W3H5]

Bentley Speed 8

Fresh oil
Front aero 45
Rear aero 70
Transmission >240mph​

P.Adam (Cool) & J.Stuart (Hot) @ L40

P.Adam starts the race with his cool head. He loses control if I bug him so I leave the control alone and allow him to do his thing. The back markers are passed without too much effort and he comes in to the pit in 6th on lap 3 after passing the 905. Lap 2 is a 3.46.052, the fastest lap throughout the race.

J.Stuart comes out from a clean pit behind the V12 LMR and makes the pass of it and the R8 on the straight on lap 4. (An unnecessary 10 litres was added just in case at the pits.)

Lap 5 is spent trying to overtake the Speed 8 (AI) which finally happens at the mulsanne putting J.Stuart up to 3rd. By the set of the 2 sharp L bends the two lead cars are in sight. The C60 Hybrid and the other R8.

Laps 6 & 7 are a cat and mouse game with all three lead cars swapping positions at each corner. Finally the R8 drops off the pace and J.Stuart follows the C60 waiting for it to hit the pit lane.

It's just the Speed 8 and the C60 now as the rain has eased up and the sun begins to rise. The head lights go off and the track reaches 45% standing water. At this point in my note book I have a small scrawl that says "Gripping stuff!!!!". It certainly is!

I cancel my pit call on lap 9 and keep J.Stuart cool. Fuel down to 30% and tyres burning away fast at this point.

The C60 pits leaving the Speed 8 to cruise around for one more lap, all the while I can admire the sights. Tyres are almost gone on the right hand side with the left having a tad more in them. Fuel is down to 25% as we cross the line.

J.Stuart wins an R8 Race Car (Audi PlayStation Team ORECA) '05 for his efforts.

The Bentley cannot really be matched by much else in speed. It really pushes the tyres down to the last lap and the fuel, although I put in 10 litres, was running low by the end.

I can't wait to wake up tomorrow and do that all again. Wonderful. 10/10. 👍

 

[bluemoon_19]

If your using any car other than the 2J, it is imperative to pit on lap 3. Too early the tyres won't last, too late and you will lose too much time.

Reading famine's post that you quoted, he is simply telling you of a possible risk when pitting in a cluster of cars.

I disagree with this post as i have won about 4 times now by pitting at the end on lap 2 and 7 both times for inters. In the post about doing it 40 minutes flat both my pictures on there were done with this strategy. Also i found it very hard to win pitting on lap 3 as i then had to overtake the AI R8 on track which bob found very tricky.

 

[TommyWizard]

I was doing the pit at 3 and 9. I dont think Racing Hard tires are the way on the 9th lap though. He's nearly crashed every corner..... will have a hunt for a while for a 2j and if not will try again. Its been the best showing in the 787B.

R92CP (Tried sports soft to see if it worked) failed. Big time.
Stealth 787B, could not keep up for some reason. Didnt do many restrictions....
R35 TC, Surprising effort but just not the same speed out of corners
787B took me all the way to the back bumper of the lead Prescarlo (SP?) but we fell back once the Bentley got back around me

 

[W3H5]

Give the Bentley a try. It only needs the one stop on lap 3 and then out paces everything in sight.

 

[dhandeh]

I disagree with this post as i have won about 4 times now by pitting at the end on lap 2 and 7 both times for inters. In the post about doing it 40 minutes flat both my pictures on there were done with this strategy. Also i found it very hard to win pitting on lap 3 as i then had to overtake the AI R8 on track which bob found very tricky.

I disagree with this post as I have won around 8 times now by pitting at the end of lap 3 for inters.

It can work many ways, purpose of this thread is to let those unsure, what they can try. What may work with your Bob, may not work with mine and vice versa. It isn't a definitive guide, its an All-Purpose Guide.

 

[Famine]

I disagree with this post as i have won about 4 times now by pitting at the end on lap 2 and 7 both times for inters. In the post about doing it 40 minutes flat both my pictures on there were done with this strategy. Also i found it very hard to win pitting on lap 3 as i then had to overtake the AI R8 on track which bob found very tricky.

What level are your Bobs? I'd suspect quite high, given that the 40'0x range seems limited to the Chaparral and level 40 Bobs (though my pair got to 40'10 in the R8).

 

[crooky369]

Just tried in a Veyron and at the end of lap 6 it was very clear that there's probably no way of winning it. My Bob's stamina was going to reach rock bottom on my no pitstop strategy, I was 6th 40 seconds down and worst of all I don't think it will make it on fuel.

 

[dhandeh]

On a similar theme, has anyone tried the Zonda R on sport soft's yet?

 

[bluemoon_19]

What level are your Bobs? I'd suspect quite high, given that the 40'0x range seems limited to the Chaparral and level 40 Bobs (though my pair got to 40'10 in the R8).

nope my bobs are all under level 35 ( i think one was 32 and the other 30 ). But i will say that i did babysit them the whole race to make sure that they didn't go into the blue on the the bar at the bottom.

I know no one asked for proof but just to make myself feel better

 

[dhandeh]

nope my bobs are all under level 35 ( i think one was 32 and the other 30 ). But i will say that i did babysit them the whole race to make sure that they didn't go into the blue on the the bar at the bottom.

Consider yourself lucky, my Bob's are complete and utter 🤬.

 

[crooky369]

Just experimenting to see how quick a 1 stopper (SS onto RI) is with a known winner (Peugeot 908).

 

[TommyWizard]

Clearly Im as stupid as my Bob. Didnt know the R8 race car was in the OCD. Prat.

Trying it for a run, and will NOT run the R/IM at lap 9. If it fails, I know I've tried. Will update this post to show progress and see if it is viable like that.

Using the Audi R8 Race Car (Playstation, Engine power limited to 700PP) Oil changed and chose not to change wing

Lap 1: Diego West (level 39, few hundred offline b spec wins) gets the hammer down and dispatches the Audi R10, CLK, R390 and passes the BMW (surprisingly!). At the final chicane the C60 is also blown away.
Lap 2: Passes sister R8 before first chicane on straight. Dispatched the 787B with no problem on the next set of straights, 905 shortly after surrenders 4th. Looking very good thus far, no input as he's where I want him on the hot cold meter!
Lap 3: Pit indicator up over S/F line. Bob passes the Bentley on the straight between the chicanes and is into third. I will say now, I will be surprised if we dont win! Catching the C60 Hybride like nobodies business. Right behind it entering pits. Will add +5 litres to ensure.
Lap 4: Tomintino Rossi (lol) takes the wheel and passes the Prescarolo in pits! 01 Audi is last to fall to us now! Left it for 20 seconds to get a bowl of pasta and the other R8 is behind me now. Looking good thus far
Lap 5, 6, 7, 8: Babysitting duties, keeping him above middle. Whoops! Was sitting about 75% and he binned it at the end of the straights. Slow glitch but we're at least 20 seconds ahead
Lap 9: 45% wet over the line. Tires are like 60% in rear and 90% in fornt. Might just make this the one stop race and have him continue on. Nope, I'll let the computer do what it wants. We've a big enough lead to let the slow glitch happen again.
Lap 10: 6 million at last. That Audi has impressed me!

 

[Famine]

nope my bobs are all under level 35 ( i think one was 32 and the other 30 ). But i will say that i did babysit them the whole race to make sure that they didn't go into the blue on the the bar at the bottom.

Then I shall experiment with your pit schedule too.

 

[StevenDunn99]

I disagree with this post as i have won about 4 times now by pitting at the end on lap 2 and 7 both times for inters. In the post about doing it 40 minutes flat both my pictures on there were done with this strategy. Also i found it very hard to win pitting on lap 3 as i then had to overtake the AI R8 on track which bob found very tricky.

Similar to myself. Pitting at the end of Lap 2 gives Bob a lot more track space. He would get up to 7th, pit, and then take the lead when the others pit without needing to do any more overtakes and potentially lose time.

 

[garbuckle]

I tried the Bentley again, on a one-stop strategy. I pitted with the rest on lap 3 (bad move), and then tried to stick with the leaders until they pitted on lap 9. Unfortunately, Mr dumb-bob decided to use all the tires in the battles, meaning the tires were bare and he was barely doing 100km/h for the last turns of lap 10, and was passed in the last 20m to the finish. Maybe I'll try a lap 4 pit, or a lap 2 and 8. Is lap 8 too wet for racing hards, or should I stick with inters?

 

[RYAN]

hi there, i have won these races, just intrested in grinding now. lucky to win the sarthe one though, second on last lap and lead r8 threw it in the gravel i was very happy as i didnt expect to win that after the r8 was still leading that late on. just a quick question when grinding sarthe with the 2J and ss tyres no pit, can you push all race in the red or would you have to save the tyres a bit? thanks.

 

[NotreDAMNNN]

Pitting on lap 2 is way faster than on lap 3, at least with the Audi's. If you pit from P5 or better you have a clear track and your Bob will produce better split times on Ints than the cars who stayed out on Hards. It's alway faster than trying to pass 5 cars in a single lap. A good Bob will always take the lead in lap 3 or at least get in the top 3. Once in the lead you can use any strategy you want as long as you don't wreck the tires on the last lap.

If you are in the top 5 after lap 3 and your Bob has a hard time to overtake just stick behind the lead pack. Stay cool and preserve tires. Close in on the leaders at lap 7 and 8. Pit on lap 8 and take Ints. You will take the lead after the rest has pitted.

My level 27/28 Bob duo have won twice now with this pit strategy.

 

[garbuckle]

I can safely say that a 0-stop race on Sports Soft does NOT work with the Bentley. Bob just can't hold his speed in the rain with those tires. I think the 2J is the only one that can do it on Sports Soft.

 

[shepzki]

I used the R8 Race Car '01 today, using a 2 stop strategy I found it easier, much easier than using a Chaparral and also won by a huge margin compared to the 2J. It's just so much faster than anything else, glides past the AI with ease. The weapon of choice for me now.

I am using high level bobs, 1 39 & all the rest 38 but no doubt they will all be level 40 sooner rather than later. I do not waste my level 40 bob on this race.

 

[garbuckle]

Did a pit on 2 and 8 with the Bentley, and just missed first by 1/2 second
Going to try a pit on 4 only, and see where that gets me.

 

[bluemoon_19]

Then I shall experiment with your pit schedule too.

I'm not sure why it works so well but i think pitting on lap 2 gives you an advantage as the tires are the better choice for the second half of the third lap as bob flys past all the cars on slicks taking it a bit steady. Then when the other cars get the inters on bobs are already warmed up and he has clear track.

 

[crooky369]

Famine if you want to you could make a list with all the cars that have a good chance of winning then we can work through them and see what the most suprising car is.

The list could be something like this:

R8 Team Joest Le Mans '01
R8 PlayStation Team Oreca Le Mans '05
R10 TDI Le Mans '06
R10 TDI Le Mans '06 (Stealth)
V12 LMR '99
2D Race Car '67 (Unlikely)
2J Race Car '70
Corvette Z06 (C6) [RM] '06 (Unlikely)
Corvette ZR-1 (C6) [RM] '09 (Unlikely)
XJR-9 Le Mans '88
787B Le Mans '91
787B Le Mans '91 (Stealth)
Sauber Mercedes C9 Le Mans '89
GT-R Touring Car (It surprisingly got mentioned earlier)
R390 GT1 Race Car '98
R89C '89
R92CP '92
C60 Courage Peugeot Playstation Le Mans '03
C60 Hybrid-Judd GV5 Playstation Le Mans '04
C60 Hybrid-Judd PlayStation Le Mans '05
905 Le Mans '92
908 HDi FAP Team Peugeot Total / Oreca '10
Escudo Dirt Trial Car '98 (Unlikely?)
7 Race Car '70 (Unlikely)
GT-One Race Car (TS020) '99
Minolta 88C-V '89

I haven't added any other GT cars like the Oreca Viper because I don't think they can be tuned to the level of the Corvette RM's.

Then I shall experiment with your pit schedule too.

I think 2 and 8 may well be the strongest combo as long as the tyres don't wear too much on lap 8. That way you might be able to push a little more on lap 9 and 10 which is where I usually lose a lot of time. Not sure if Intermediates or Racing Hard's would be best but on a hunch I'd say the RH's because the Intermediates wear so badly on lap 10.

 

[bluemoon_19]

I ran the inters from then end on lap 7 (i went to pit at the end of 7 for inters). And by the end on lap 10 they were nearly all gone but bob seemed OK with them he didn't go slow and there was no drama in the corners.

 

[garbuckle]

I finally won in the Bentley Speed 8 (800hp, 1000kg). I got it by a respectable 15-20 second margin.

I pitted on lap 4, ending up in 10th place. I then worked my way back up to 6th by lap 9, when everyone pitted. I passed by them all and just kept cool for the last lap. It's insane that lap 10 will use up HALF your intermediate tires. Laps 1-4 were an aggressive bob level 38, the rest were a cool bob level 36.

Time was 40:39. For comparison, my 2J time was 40:26.

 

[Tired Tyres]

My level 31 and 32 Bobs won with the Pescarolo C60 Hybride–Judd '05 against the default first field after starting the game.

I started on Hard race tyres. Mr Level 31 (D. Tanner) had got up into 5th place by the time I pitted him at the end of lap 2. The stop dropped me to 11th but straight into the lead when everyone else pitted. Being on the right tyres at the right time is the most important element in this event.

Mr level 32 (A. Weaver) pulled out something like 37 seconds advantage at not more than 75% effort by the time I pitted again for more Inters at the end of lap 8.

It was a used car with a fixed engine but I forgot to boost top speed so it was not quite right on the straights.

It was a really easy win apart from the time Mr level 31, I can't drive properly, D. Tanner went slightly off on a corner and then decided to drive half on the track and half in the gravel with the speed limiter on! That was on lap 9. Luckily he got himself out of that and victory was mine.

 

[g2010ag]

I have done some experimenting and with the same drivers and techniques, pitting at the end of lap 2 is worth about 10 seconds midway into lap four over pitting at the end of lap 3(for me). Not sure how the tire wear sorts out from there though. I have saved replays from 3 different runs. Same drivers starting at level 36 in the 908, level 38 by the completion of the R8 '01.

908 Team Oreca
Total time 40:15.5
Best Lap 3:45.7
Pitted end of laps 2 and 8, for RI.
Final lap on worn Intermediates was 3:47.1

Audi R8 Playstation
Total time 39:37.483
Best Lap 3:40.384
Pitted end of laps 2 and 8 for RI
Final lap 3:45.455

Audi R8 '01
Total time 39:36.383
Best Lap 3:40.362
Pitted end of laps 2 and 7 for RI
Lap 9- 3:41.846
Lap 10- 3:47.307