Alsace - Village not suited for racing?

[CConspicuous]

Might be just me, but after todays manufacturer race i cant help feeling very unsatisfied with racing at Alsace. Competitive racing is very hard due to wildly varying and unpredictable racing lines and braking points people use. Wide turns also seem to encourage dive bombing. And its not like its due to DR/SR - currently at DR B SR A/B.

Alsace is a beautiful track for cruising and driving alone, but cant seem to find clean racing there. I think the track is too wide for that.

Then again i couldnt bring my self driving more than 2 corner in that i3 race.. Just awful driving a car with no gears in a game as one doesent really have too much sense of speed.

The problem is that the track is a type of track which much of today's world does not understand, it's a very Riems-Geuex/Rouen-Les-Essarts/Clermont-Ferrand, the type of track where a mistake would mean a trip to the hospital in real life, unfortunately the challenges of these tracks don't really translate into modern cars and especially not into a video game... it's also way too wide.

Source for resemblance/reference:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=c...9bPXAhXIA8AKHcRVBsYQ_AUICygC&biw=1170&bih=634

https://www.google.co.uk/search?biw...1j0i8i7i30i19k1j0i8i30k1j0i24k1.0.EGjhRbL8-vU

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[Phoenixsui]

At first i hated the track. This track is not a easy one. But now i like it with Gr.4 cars. Had a really good and tight fight with a other driver in B S ranks. And from what i see the lines are spread but the result is the same. I have not seen any crashes caused by this. Sometimes even few Kilometers side by side with a other car. Or was watching a fight between 2 in front of me with no crashes for several laps.

 

[azrilnazli]

try spend like 50 laps practising alone. 10 laps for each session and see the time you clock.

then use different race line on next session and you will clocked the exact similar time.

in short, this track is fun

 

[CeeJay]

I really like the track to be honest.. I'm really weird, I am loving the fantasy tracks in GTS. I know, I should only like the real world tracks but I find myself liking the fantasy ones this time around. I wish PD would stop being so stubborn and put all of the old fantasy tracks into this game too. I miss El Capitan soooo much!

 

[Deadheadbill]

Hate this track!!! Same as some tracks in reverse.......

That's funny, while I like this track, I hate it in reverse. So much so that I will not race on it. Skipped one of the cup races just because it was on this track in reverse.

 

[Sean Renon]

I really enjoy Alsace Village - but I have to totally disagree about multiple racing lines.
Last night in DR:B/SR:S I qualified 3rd and managed to take 2nd about 3 laps in due to 2nd place making a mistake.

We raced the next 8 laps almost completely error free, trying to put pressure on P1 who was 4 seconds up the road and putting a little more time every lap on us.
Then on lap 9 a small error from me gave him room to pass, which I immediately took back when he went a little deep on the hairpin.

Altogether it was my best manufacturer cup performance finishing in 2nd and getting 550 points, not surprising because I drive the track well, personal best qual lap is a 2.05.5 in my Mazda Atenza

 

[Ian Fairbanks]

Ah, no.

You can and should absolutely learn to take corners with different lines, and understand what are trading in return. That’s racecraft, positioning your vehicle to maximise your flow and position relative to where the opponent is at that time.

Racing is not hotlapping (where I agree there is usually and ideal line). Alsace is a track where there are multiple valid and fast racing lines through certain series of corners, but which ones you chose to take depend entirely on what your opponents are doing around you.



Which is precisely why you need to be able to take different lines into a corner depending on the cirmcumstances, and know what the trade off will be.

I find Alsace allows that variety, and cars can generally run side by side through corners a lot more safely than other tracks.

In fact, the place I got punted (from 3rd to 8th) in the Constructors last night was into the final chicane where it gets tight and there isn’t enough room for two cars to take different lines. Some GT-R hero though his line was more important than mine despite not even being alongside and into the tyre wall I went.

At Alsace with the big sweepers I’ve overtaken on the inside, on the outside, with under/over moves - fantastic stuff.

Dude. No. Just, no. Knowing and DOING are two different things. You shouldn’t intentionally deviate from the fastest line unless it is to avoid collision. If I come up under you on a sweeper and understeer my way into your line, I’ll guarantee you will come into this forum and start a whiners thread about it. Racing IS hot lapping, it’s hot lapping with TRAFFIC. Gotta learn to make your passes with everyone else in that same fluid line. Something tells me you’ve yet to compete IRL.

 

[CConspicuous]

Dude. No. Just, no. Knowing and DOING are two different things. You shouldn’t intentionally deviate from the fastest line unless it is to avoid collision. If I come up under you on a sweeper and understeer my way into your line, I’ll guarantee you will come into this forum and start a whiners thread about it. Racing IS hot lapping, it’s hot lapping with TRAFFIC. Gotta learn to make your passes with everyone else in that same fluid line. Something tells me you’ve yet to compete IRL.

The fastest line tends to change depending on a number of different factors, there's also the curious case on Mika Hakkinen who would take some completely bizarre lines compared to other drivers and still be the fastest guy on track.