America - The Official Thread

[TexRex]

This has that energy of Florida v. Norwegian Cruise Lines where a judge ruled in favor of the cruise lines specifically citing 1A.


And Florida is already appealing it.

It's basically identical to the Norwegian case except Norwegian has the means to fight it. Because of aforementioned judicial doctrine, the threat of revocation of state-issued licenses in lieu of direct monetary penalty isn't a meaningful difference.

Of course Florida is appealing. They were always going to, no matter how unlikely it is they will win. And because it's performative legislation, even a loss is a win because they get to show their idiot base that they fought tyranny and tyranny won over.

Only...they're the tyrants. They're denying some legitimate freedom in favor of freedom that others don't actually have.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Holy anti-Semitism vibes, Batman!

Edit: I don't mean to say that the anti-Semitism vibes are themselves "holy" as the above appears to suggest. Rather it was an approximation of an exclamation that Robin may make.

Yeah, though I could still see the government being run by reptiles.

 

[Tornado]

It's truly fascinating that, after the Afghanistan government is collapsing pretty much exactly as fast as everyone knew it was going to, the GOP talking point immediately reverts to WE NEED TO STAY THE COURSE AND NOT CUT AND RUN AND LET THE TERRORISTS WIN despite the fact that as recently as 8 months ago absolutely no one was interested in propping up the government there that is so incompetent and indifferent that we'd need to have troops there basically forever. Taliban takes over half the country in seemingly the span of a 3 day weekend, and now the US just has to set everything back up and pretend we were never going to leave.



Not surprising, mind.

 

[Famine]

Hey wait, isn't today the day that the guy with the cushions who's been promising evidence of electoral fraud for half a year already will give the proof and then the old president with the huckster children will implausibly and against all legal process move back into the building named after the colour it was painted to hide the scorch marks*?


*Okay, that last bit isn't true, but then neither is a single thing pillowchap barfs out of his noisehole

 

[McLaren]

Hey wait, isn't today the day that the guy with the cushions who's been promising evidence of electoral fraud for half a year already will give the proof and then the old president with the huckster children will implausibly and against all legal process move back into the building named after the colour it was painted to hide the scorch marks*?


*Okay, that last bit isn't true, but then neither is a single thing pillowchap barfs out of his noisehole

Said guy is currently claiming he's on his way to the Supreme Court and it will become "so" when they see the "overwhelming evidence".

 

[TexRex]

It's truly fascinating that, after the Afghanistan government is collapsing pretty much exactly as fast as everyone knew it was going to, the GOP talking point immediately reverts to WE NEED TO STAY THE COURSE AND NOT CUT AND RUN AND LET THE TERRORISTS WIN despite the fact that as recently as 8 months ago absolutely no one was interested in propping up the government there that is so incompetent and indifferent that we'd need to have troops there basically forever. Taliban takes over half the country in seemingly the span of a 3 day weekend, and now the US just has to set everything back up and pretend we were never going to leave.



Not surprising, mind.

The withdrawal seems to be increasingly untenable. I still support it, but that support isn't unconditional and I can't pinpoint a scenario in which I will no longer support it. I don't want us there. I've never wanted us there. But I'm not an isolationist.

Biden's steadfastness on withdrawal is one of precious few policy points for which I enthusiastically applaud him.

Monitor Taliban activities (this probably needs to be done without an embassy in Kabul), continue diplomatic maneuvers (also embassiless...if that wasn't a word before, it is now), possibly ramp up humanitarian maneuvers...and maybe even streamline US asylum processes (this is also complicated, but obviously not impossible, without an embassy).

To your apparent point, there's basically no way the right's criticism is not in bad faith. And of course any traction on the asylum front is obviously a basis for the right to push replacement conspiracy, but then they were doing that even before new census data went public.

 

[Jezza819]

Biden's steadfastness on withdrawal is one of precious few policy points for which I enthusiastically applaud him.

I also support withdrawal. However the one area the Biden administration is doing a poor job of in my opinion is getting all and I mean ALL of the translators out and their families that helped the US. Despite the "promises" from the Taliban that all the translators need to do is admit they were wrong to help the US and the Taliban wouldn't harm them, you know good and well once the translators are apprehended they will be lined up against a wall and shot and probably their families as well.

We need to do whatever it takes to help these people escape NOW!!!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...ely-drag-after-american-troops-leave-n1276245

 

[TexRex]

I also support withdrawal. However the one area the Biden administration is doing a poor job of in my opinion is getting all and I mean ALL of the translators out and their families that helped the US. Despite the "promises" from the Taliban that all the translators need to do is admit they were wrong to help the US and the Taliban wouldn't harm them, you know good and well once the translators are apprehended they will be lined up against a wall and shot and probably their families as well.

We need to do whatever it takes to help these people escape NOW!!!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...ely-drag-after-american-troops-leave-n1276245

Yeah, these stories have been making the rounds for some time now and I agree. I'd argue that's more of an implementation issue than a policy one. I don't know all of what this entails but I gather there's bureaucracy and pushback to contend with. There shouldn't be.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Hmmm...



Are they wrong?

I think the Lizard people are just misunderstood.

 

[TexRex]

I think the Lizard people are just misunderstood.

Look, lily-livered lizard lover...

 

[TexRex]

 

[Tornado]

“I’m not gonna drag the state through the mud, through a three-month, four-month impeachment, and then win, and have made the State Legislature and the state government look like a ship of fools.”

There's the Cuomo I always knew. None of this "America's governor" crap.

 

[TexRex]

Gosh, that's not at all Trumpy. Not at all ****ing pathetic.

OTOH...

 

[TexRex]

Oh, my. Oh, no. It seems Republicans may have a problem with underage sex trafficking. But they don't seem to have a problem with it in the way that I have a problem with it. I have a problem with those perpetrating such acts. Republicans, on the other hand, seem to have a problem with getting caught.

GOP strategist and donor Anton Lazzaro was arrested Thursday morning in Minneapolis on underage sex trafficking charges.

Also arrested Thursday was the recently selected chair for the University of St. Thomas chapter of Minnesota College Republicans. 19-year-old Gisela Castro Medina was arrested on charges of conspiracy to commit underage sex trafficking, reportedly in connection with Lazzaro, but she was arrested in Florida. Florida, where Republican congressman Matt Gaetz has been mired in controversy and allegations of similar crimes, though no connection between Gaetz and Medina has been established.

Law and order.

 

[andrea]

I feel so bad for afghani's - and most especially women and girls.

 

[Chrunch Houston]

In case anyone was wondering, this is what a real insurrection looks like.

 

[TexRex]

lol

Edit:

"STOP ERASING OUR HISTORY!"

 

[UKMikey]

In case anyone was wondering, this is what a real insurrection looks like.

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Yeah, it couldn't be more different from Jan 6:

At least these guys didn't smear excrement on the walls... so there's that.

 

[Tornado]

In case anyone was wondering, this is what a real insurrection looks like.

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True. Here they only let white people break into federal buildings to overthrow the government on Trump's suggestion.

 

[Dennisch]

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That's quite a bit of trigger discipline for a bunch of cave dwelling terrorists.

 

[UKMikey]

That's quite a bit of trigger discipline for a bunch of cave dwelling terrorists.

Yeah, I despise them too. But using them to minimise what happened in the US Capitol earlier this year is kinda... asinine.

 

[Keef]

Yeah, it couldn't be more different from Jan 6:

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At least these guys didn't smear excrement on the walls... so there's that.

I don't understand his point. Literally the words he said and the objective aspects of that photo are dead ringers for what happened Jan 6. They might as well be the same photo.

Is his goal to highlight specifically the intense similarities between the two groups of people? I speak English fluently and have 20/20 corrected vision and I cannot understand how his tweet could be interpreted any differently than to say, "Mission accomplished".

 

[UKMikey]

I don't understand his point. Literally the words he said and the objective aspects of that photo are dead ringers for what happened Jan 6. They might as well be the same photo.

Is his goal to highlight specifically the intense similarities between the two groups of people? I speak English fluently and have 20/20 corrected vision and I cannot understand how his tweet could be interpreted any differently than to say, "Mission accomplished".

Me either.

 

[Dennisch]

Yeah, I despise them too. But using them to minimise what happened in the US Capitol earlier this year is kinda... asinine.

I was trying to point out how the fingers are all off the trigger, as if they are trained by professionals.

 

[TexRex]

True. Here they only let white people break into federal buildings to overthrow the government on Trump's suggestion.

Chrunch is just bitchy that the Y'all Qaeda attackers were unsuccessful. Of course, an insurrection being referred to as such doesn't hinge on success.

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[ryzno]

I was trying to point out how the fingers are all off the trigger, as if they are trained by professionals.

I wonder who trained them...

 

[Dennisch]

I wonder who trained them...

I suspect that they're from an American organisation. Wouldn't be the first time.

 

[McLaren]

In case anyone was wondering, this is what a real insurrection looks like.

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Trumpty Dumpty 1 for 2.

 

[Keef]

In case anyone was wondering, this is what a real insurrection looks like.

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So...it looks exactly like Jan 6? Except somehow the Taliban didn't try as hard but were more successful. It kinda seems like you're trying to make an example out of this, as if this is what the American terrorists should've done because it actually worked.

 

[jjaisli]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/witness-mypillow-ceo-incident-says-191946011.html

SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (AP) — A witness to an incident last week involving MyPillow chief executive Mike Lindell says he saw no reason for Lindell to claim he was attacked at a South Dakota hotel.

Lindell, who was in Sioux Falls hosting an election fraud symposium, told The Associated Press on Tuesday his encounter with a man seeking a photo late Wednesday left him doubled over in pain. Lindell said he has filed a report of an assault with the Sioux Falls Police Department and is conducting his own investigation into how the photo-seeker could have shoved an object between his ribs, leaving him unable to move his right arm.

I think we all know how THAT'S going to go.