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Really? You're fine with Kate Steinle being killed by a five-time deportee and multiple felon illegal alien, who was only on the streets because SF declared itself a sanctuary city that refused to comply with federal law enforcement, in order to shelter dirt bags who exploit our country?
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I mean it's sad but sad stuff happens all the time whether undocumented immigrants are involved or not. I'm in San Francisco every day and the last thing on my mind is people's immigration status - this city does indeed have some pretty serious issues to work through, and undocumented immigrants existing isn't one of them.
 
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You fine with this?


I can't recall ever seeing anyone rushing to defend and justify that scumbag's actions, I can't say the same for those that carry out mass shootings.
That's a false equivalency.
Right-wingers don't support the rights of psychos.
 
That's a false equivalency.
Right-wingers don't support the rights of psychos.
Kyle Rittenhouse says hi!

Anyways, I'm done with this as frankly I see no value in conversing with someone that will in all likelihood be banned by the end of the week. Peace out an much love!
 
He's been installed in a puppet regime.
Who? Biden isn't even remotely far-left, even by American standards. I don't think much of Biden, but it's not because he's some extreme leftist. Biden won the election, he wasn't installed by anyone other than a majority of voting Americans who were sick of Trump's crap. More people likely voted against Trump than for Biden.
The far-left agenda is completely asinine. It ruins our country.
There isn't a far-left agenda in America, at least not one with any traction. The number of politicians who are even remotely far-left is minimal at best. Bernie Sanders might be our most far-left politician at the federal level and he's not even that left on the larger scale. About the only place you'll see people talking about anything considered far-left is the internet and they're almost always younger people or old ass conservative blabbering on about how the country is going to hell because of "wokeness" despite not knowing what that even is.
Right-wingers don't support the rights of psychos.
Right-wingers don't support the rights of most people, or even understand rights to begin with. Even start with something like the Bill of Rights and those who describe themselves as "right-wing" don't know what the hell it's even about. The right to Freedom of Speech is probably the biggest on that right-wing and conservative people don't even remotely understand.
 
Instead of proposing solutions to economic problems it seems to be a scapegoat of the week situation over there. Drag queens, transgender people, Ukrainians, woke corporations.
Nobody cares about drag queens until they crave an audience of children.
Nobody cares about transgenders until they destroy women's sports, or the liberal educators try to impress the lifestyle on children.
I don't know what you mean about Ukrainians.
As for woke corporation, they can do whatever they think their shareholders want. Bud Light sales are down 28.5%.
 
Nobody cares about drag queens until they crave an audience of children.
Citation needed. I thought RuPaul's Drag Race was a family show with an audience in the millions. Now it's an affront to civilisation?
Nobody cares about transgenders until they destroy women's sports, or the liberal educators try to impress the lifestyle on children.
Are women's sports being destroyed? Last I heard they were still there. Trans athletes vary in athletic ability. They won't dominate their sports.

Do liberal educators force kids to be transgender? Or do they merely introduce the concept to them as part of educating them about the world around them?
I don't know what you mean about Ukrainians.
They were kind of minding their business before Russia decided to invade their country. When the US joined other countries in helping them fight back, right wingers complained that it was a waste of money and that they should let themselves be overrun.
As for woke corporation, they can do whatever they think their shareholders want. Bud Light sales are down 28.5%.
For once a boycott against trans people seems to have worked, probably because the people who drink light beer and those who think trans rights are an abomination overlap. Sucks to be InBev, but I think they'll survive.
I won't be banned. I haven't done anything wrong. Good luck with your cancel culture.
I don't know what makes you think you'll be banned unless you break the AUP. Weren't you just talking about cancelling Bud, by the way?
 
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Right-wingers don't support the rights of most people, or even understand rights to begin with. Even start with something like the Bill of Rights and those who describe themselves as "right-wing" don't know what the hell it's even about. The right to Freedom of Speech is probably the biggest on that right-wing and conservative people don't even remotely understand.
None of that is true.
 
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I really don't think you need to worry about transgender people. It's a made-up issue. Or let me put it another way - when was the last time you even saw a transgender person, let alone were somehow victimized by one? You can say that your self-image as an American is damaged by transgender people existing in the USA, but that isn't really defensible.
 
Do liberal educators force kids to be transgender? Or do they merely introduce the concept to them
Kids are impressionable. They don't need to hear about puberty blockers, and genital mutilation.
There is an elementary school in my city being sued by the parents of a kid whose school councilors helped him transition without notifying his parents. It's an 11 year old, who isn't allowed to make legal decisions.
They were kind of minding their business before Russia decided to invade their country. When the US joined other countries in helping them fight back, right wingers complained that it was a waste of money and that they should let themselves be overrun.
The US is providing more money than than all of the EU combined. That doesn't seem proportionate.
They have some dirt on the Biden family, I think.
Weren't you just talking about cancelling Bud by the way?
No. I was responding to the person who said I would be banned within the week.
I may be considered subversive here, but I'm not actually stupid.
 
The US is providing more money than than all of the EU combined. That doesn't seem proportionate.
They have some dirt on the Biden family, I think.
Unless you're too young to remember the Cold War, it's pretty easy to see why the US is spending so much on the war in Ukraine. Russia has never stopped being our enemy and it's much, much cheaper to fight them via another country than it is to put American servicemen and women on the ground. The US will do the same thing for any country that takes up a war with China too.
 
That's a false equivalency.
Right-wingers don't support the rights of psychos.
No abortions, no incest/rape exceptions, calls for condom/birth control bans, desire to prosecute not just any woman who leaves the state to seek an abortion where it's legal but calling out for Wish.com bounty hunters to turn over anyone who might assist a woman seeking an abortion.

Sounds a lot like the right supports the rights of a rapist more so than him impregnating his victim.


Absolute bullocks from someone drunk on Trump's kool-aid.
 
Then why don't right-wing people understand the First Amendment, specifically regarding social media?
Are you kidding?

You mean like Twitter banning people for posting stories about Hunter Biden's laptop, that were proven to be true?
People also got banned for posting "misinformation" that questioned the government's assertions about covid, that happened to be nonsense.
Right-wingers were definitely not the one's suppressing freedom of speech there.

Which things were you referring to?
 
Kids are impressionable. They don't need to hear about puberty blockers, and genital mutilation.
There is an elementary school in my city being sued by the parents of a kid whose school councilors helped him transition without notifying his parents. It's an 11 year old, who isn't allowed to make legal decisions.
I don't know the ins and outs of this case but are qualified people allowed to make decisions on their behalf as to whether they're transgender or not?
The US is providing more money than than all of the EU combined. That doesn't seem proportionate.
The US spends more on its military than all of the EU combined. Part of that money is used to foster stability in areas which are likely to lead to global conflict. I'm guessing it figures another global superpower throwing its weight around counts in this regard.
They have some dirt on the Biden family, I think.
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Weren't you just talking about cancelling Bud, by the way?
You were, though. I just quoted you doing so in the previous reply.
I was responding to the person who said I would be banned within the week.
I may be considered subversive here, but I'm not actually stupid.
Perhaps you should've quoted them directly, then.

I'm not sure subversive would be the word most people here would use about your posts judging by the replies.
 
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Are you kidding?

You mean like Twitter banning people for posting stories about Hunter Biden's laptop, that were proven to be true?
People also got banned for posting "misinformation" that questioned the government's assertions about covid, that happened to be nonsense.
Right-wingers were definitely not the one's suppressing freedom of speech there.

Which things were you referring to?
Goodness gracious, you actually managed to prove his point.


The irony in bringing up Twitter that is run by a self-proclaimed "free speech" supporter who has been caught literally banning people for less. Aaron Rupar & 4 other members of the press literally got suspended off that platform for made-up reasons of doxxing without actual proof of doing so.
 
cancel culture
dirt on the Biden family
Hunter Biden's laptop
It's like looking into 2016 all over again.


Apropos of genital mutilation, the USA seems to have an almost national obsession with multilating boys' penises, and it's getting past time there was a conversation about it.

Also, as someone seemingly typing the words "cancel culture" entirely straight, what's the difference between the uber-lefty loony "cancel culture" and the free market capitalist "voting with your wallet"?
 
Are you kidding?

You mean like Twitter banning people for posting stories about Hunter Biden's laptop, that were proven to be true?
People also got banned for posting "misinformation" that questioned the government's assertions about covid, that happened to be nonsense.
Right-wingers were definitely not the one's suppressing freedom of speech there.

Which things were you referring to?
None of that is suppressing freedom of speech. Right-wingers got their panties in a bunch over it and it's not a freedom of speech issue. Twitter isn't the government. If it wants to ban people for being dickheaded COVID deniers then guess what? It can do that. If it wants to ban people for posting about Hunter Biden, guess what? It can do that. What can't be done is that the government can't throw you in jail because of it and if they do, you sue the government and take it to the Supreme Court.
 
Also, as someone seemingly typing the words "cancel culture" entirely straight, what's the difference between the uber-lefty loony "cancel culture" and the free market capitalist "voting with your wallet"?
The difference is allowing the other party to spread their message, then reacting passively.
If it wants to ban people for being dickheaded COVID deniers then guess what? It can do that.
Sure, but people got banned for suggesting that the vaccine was not necessary. Again, they turned out to be right.
Biden said that if you get vaccinated, you won't get or transmit Covid. That was a lie.
 
Sure, but people got banned for suggesting that the vaccine was not necessary. Again, they turned out to be right.
Biden said that if you get vaccinated, you won't get or transmit Covid. That was a lie.
Still doesn't change the fact that Twitter banning them wasn't a violation of freedom of speech.

Also, Biden, like pretty much every politician had a misunderstanding of vaccines. In fact, many people had no clue about how vaccines work. The COVID vaccine was necessary, and it still is, but no vaccine prevents any disease.
 
Sure, but people got banned for suggesting that the vaccine was not necessary. Again, they turned out to be right.
That's definitely wrong. But, little late for those who died asking for it on their death beds.
Biden said that if you get vaccinated, you won't get or transmit Covid. That was a lie.
Unsurprisingly, I'm betting you chose not to actually dig into what was said & why b/c it would rain on your stance.

PANDEMIC​


BIDEN: “If you’re vaccinated, you’re not going to be hospitalized, you’re not going to be in the IC unit, and you’re not going to die.” — town hall.

THE FACTS: His remark accurately captures the strong protection the COVID-19 vaccines provide as cases spike among people who have resisted the shots. But it overlooks the rare exceptions.

As of July 12, the government had tallied 5,492 vaccinated people who tested positive for coronavirus and were hospitalized or died. That’s out of more than 159 million fully vaccinated Americans. The director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, said “99.5% of all deaths from COVID-19 are in the unvaccinated.”
 
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The difference is allowing the other party to spread their message, then reacting passively.
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I'm not sure how you can react passively. Most people react actively with activism. But if the right isn't being allowed to spread its message, then how do other people find out about it to try and cancel it? :confused:
 
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Also, Biden, like pretty much every politician had a misunderstanding of vaccines. In fact, many people had no clue about how vaccines work. The COVID vaccine was necessary, and it still is, but no vaccine prevents any disease.
A misunderstanding is fine, but when you guarantee that getting the shot will guard you from the disease, and people who resist get fired from their jobs by the thousands, it's reckless.
I never got the shot, and I never got Covid. 🤘
Unsurprisingly, I'm betting you chose not to actually dig into what was said & why b/c it would rain on your stance.
Yeah, I know what he said. It wasn't true.
Most people react actively with activism. But if the right isn't being allowed to spread its message, then how do other people find out about it to try and cancel it?
The right doesn't try to cancel anything. As @Famine said, we speak with our wallets.
They are free to say whatever the hell they want.
We just don't have to listen, or buy their products.
Nobody is stopping them from saying what they want. There's no campaign to shut down Anheuser Busch.
 
A misunderstanding is fine, but when you guarantee that getting the shot will guard you from the disease, and people who resist get fired from their jobs by the thousands, it's reckless.
Those two have zero correlation.

Companies can pick & choose how to handle that.
I never got the shot, and I never got Covid. 🤘
Yep, that's definitely how it played out for everyone else. :dunce:
Yeah, I know what he said. It wasn't true.
The statement itself isn't true flat-out, but it's based on solid data.
Nobody is stopping them from saying what they want. There's no campaign to shut down Anheuser Busch.
Several Anheuser-Busch facilities received threats last week, a company spokesperson confirmed, following weeks of backlash against Bud Light because it sponsored two Instagram posts from a transgender woman.

“The safety of our employees is always our top priority,” the company spokesperson said in a statement to CNN. “We worked quickly with local law enforcement to ensure the security of our people and our facilities.”

The spokesperson did not share specific locations that had been threatened, but the Los Angeles police department told CNN that it responded to a bomb threat and conducted a sweep of an Anheuser-Busch brewery in the Van Nuys neighborhood last week.

"Guys, the right isn't trying to shut down Anheuser-Busch, they're just giving them some threats of violence".
 
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A misunderstanding is fine, but when you guarantee that getting the shot will guard you from the disease, and people who resist get fired from their jobs by the thousands, it's reckless.
I never got the shot, and I never got Covid. 🤘
@McLaren posted what Biden actually said. Biden was still incorrect, but the facts don't lie. You're chances of being hospitalized or dying from COVID after being vaccinated are exponentially lower than those who didn't get the vaccine depending on a ton of different variables. And you may or may not have gotten COVID, the thing is unless you were testing yourself almost daily you wouldn't know. My son got COVID and was sick for a few days, my wife got it and never showed symptoms, I got it and ended up in the hospital followed by a bout of long-COVID. Had I not been vaccinated, I could've very well died.

I lived COVID since the beginning so you'll have to forgive me when I think COVID deniers are jackasses.
The right doesn't try to cancel anything. As @Famine said, we speak with our wallets.
You do know the right is trying to ban books because they don't like the message in them. Or what about throwing a bitchfit over Kaepernick? Or how about women's rights? The right does cancel culture just as much as the left does.
If I remember correctly he wasn't brandishing his gun at each and every protestor. He got into situation where several people with documented history of violence tried to attack him.
Putting yourself in a dangerous situation for the sole purpose of needing to protect yourself isn't exactly the most solid case of self-defense. The kid went looking for a fight and is an irresponsible gun owner. The case was difficult to prove murder on, but Rittenhouse was by no means just defending himself.
 
The kid went looking for a fight
I don't disagree with this part, it does seem like he was looking for trouble. Yet, he didn't go there to deliberately shoot people like some psycho. He resorted to use deadly force only when there was a clear threat to his life.
 
The case was difficult to prove murder on, but Rittenhouse was by no means just defending himself.
That's legally false.
Whether someone was provoked by him, or not, they were wrong for attacking him, and unfortunately had to reap what they sow.
 
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