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That's disingenuous. I know most of his policies.
Are you suggesting that your opinion should be considered factual?
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Are you suggesting that your opinion should be considered factual?
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I’m not “suggesting” anything. What I’m saying is that if you allege to know most of Trump’s policies, you can at least name one that you like, even if done so curtly.That's disingenuous. I know most of his policies.
Are you suggesting that your opinion should be considered factual?
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Operation Warpspeed- despite Trump trying to shy away from it as much as possible now given how anti-vax the right wing base is- was arguably one of his best achievements.
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Okay. So... why even take part in a discussion then?
There's 1,200 pages of discussion here, and you have - by choice - entered to make a comment. People want to discuss the comment, but you're only willing to discuss the fact you're not willing to discuss it.
It rather poses the question that if you knew how it was going to go and don't want to participate, why voluntarily start it?
Incidentally, the whole "people who probably aren't interested in opposing viewpoints" line (as well as the outsider card - played here as "the intruder" - which is a victim card held the other way about) is usually employed by people who... aren't interested in opposing viewpoints. Like the guy the other day who posted the meme about what kind of opinions are allowed.
People questioning your point of view is very much the opposite of not being interested in it, and since you should have already questioned it yourself before holding it, you should either be able to defend it or willing to change it if you cannot. That's how discussion works.
If people break the site's AUP and "carpet bomb" you "with vitriol", they will be dealt with by the moderation staff.
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Just the acknowledgement that space actually exists was sort of a step in the right direction. Unlike most of his constiiuency that believes after the blue sky there's only heaven where god's condo is.I'll start you off then. I really like Trump's "Space Force". I thought it was a good move at the time, and an intelligent change in the armed forces. I like that it exists, and I think it's an important focus of military effort.
Your turn.
See, it's not that hard.
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Unfortunately, Trump didn't even get OWS correct. The biggest and most successful vaccine maker Pfizer didn't take any money for the research. Pfizer did receive a ton of orders due to the OWS though and got EUA quicker, but whether OWS existed or not the CDC would've pushed through any vaccine that had a remote chance of working.
Moderna benefited by getting $2.48 billion. But the other participants sort of fizzled out. Johnson & Johnson failed, AstraZeneca never got authorization in the US and contributed to blood clotting, Novavax never made it to the US market, Merck's project was terminated, and Sanofi's vaccine didn't work. Monoclonal treatments were funded to the tune of like $1 billion, but those never really panned out in any massive scale.
So the biggest winner in the pharmaceuticals side of the pandemic had very little to do with OWS at all, which opens the floor for debate on public vs. private funding.
My Brother in Christ, it's 1030 on a Wednesday in California and you're making a beer run?That's fair.
I understand the point you're making.
I'm going to consider it while making a beer run.
I'll be back in about 15 minutes, with something productive to say. 🤔
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Since I am fiscally conservative, it is financial policies that I appreciate most.
I like that Trump increased the standard tax deduction.
I like that he eliminated the Obamacare individual mandate.
I like the increased commitment to domestic energy production.
I like that he pulled us out of the Paris Climate Accord.
I like the replacement of NAFTA with USMCA.
That being said, I'm not a huge fan of the man, himself. Most of the time, I think he needs to stfu.
I don't support everything he and his party do.
I feel more like a libertarian than a republican, but they are not going to be running things anytime soon.
I like that Trump increased the standard tax deduction.
I like that he eliminated the Obamacare individual mandate.
I like the increased commitment to domestic energy production.
I like that he pulled us out of the Paris Climate Accord.
I like the replacement of NAFTA with USMCA.
That being said, I'm not a huge fan of the man, himself. Most of the time, I think he needs to stfu.
I don't support everything he and his party do.
I feel more like a libertarian than a republican, but they are not going to be running things anytime soon.
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I prefer to keep the $1,000.
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Sure he's been a complete crapstain on the US - a president talking about what it would be like to have sex with his own daughter - but he increased the standard deduction a bit. It would be horrific enough even without the impeachments, criminal offenses, and coup attempt.
It's a comical position. That's why when you said this:
I said this:
BTW I picked the one thing from your list that I unreservedly agree with you on. I also like the increased standard deduction even though I don't benefit from it personally.
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Honest question here - is there anything in this list that isn't boilerplate conservative agenda? If the answer is a no, then there shouldn't be any reason to support Trump over other Republicans if you don't like him personally. Just about any conservative would have a similar platform, so why not support one of them that doesn't have such a rendered & gelatinous soul?
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Honestly, the infrastructure thing he rambled about in 2015 and 2016 caught my ear, but had no more follow-through than any other President since the 1990s. Probably because a lot of that deals with earmarks and the situation is wildly different in priorities from state to state, region to region, that it became a total back burner discussion because the subject is as exciting as watching government cheese catch mold, and usually local politicians get more credit for that than the executive branch.
After that, he was too busy getting into pointless distractions even without the media's help, let alone his legal troubles (which couldn't be ignored forever). Surrounding oneself with folks who had no clue about leadership meant nobody seemed to have control for long. Probably would have been a stronger figurehead (rather than "leader") in a time of very limited media, like the 1950s. If in those times, I think he would probably have been an Eisenhower of sorts – kind of memorable for one big thing but mostly kind of unobtrusive on most issues – but we don't live in those times any longer. The administration gaslighting people with ideas weighted heavily on opinions rather than facts leaves it extremely vulnerable to attack and gives the appearance of ignorance. And that's a predictable hornet's nest for each and all upcoming administrations.
When the owner of a sports team moves to another city and changes the logo, do you still show up to the empty former stadium in hopes a game will magically appear? I don't get post-November 2020 Trumpies, it's currently a black hole, where everything can go into it, but where nothing comes out of it.
After that, he was too busy getting into pointless distractions even without the media's help, let alone his legal troubles (which couldn't be ignored forever). Surrounding oneself with folks who had no clue about leadership meant nobody seemed to have control for long. Probably would have been a stronger figurehead (rather than "leader") in a time of very limited media, like the 1950s. If in those times, I think he would probably have been an Eisenhower of sorts – kind of memorable for one big thing but mostly kind of unobtrusive on most issues – but we don't live in those times any longer. The administration gaslighting people with ideas weighted heavily on opinions rather than facts leaves it extremely vulnerable to attack and gives the appearance of ignorance. And that's a predictable hornet's nest for each and all upcoming administrations.
When the owner of a sports team moves to another city and changes the logo, do you still show up to the empty former stadium in hopes a game will magically appear? I don't get post-November 2020 Trumpies, it's currently a black hole, where everything can go into it, but where nothing comes out of it.
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I agree with you there. However, he is likely to be the nominee.
Biden is a cluster ****.
He's been installed in a puppet regime.
I will support anyone who runs against him.
The far-left agenda is completely asinine. It ruins our country.
I would be surprised if there are any other countries who aren't laughing at us.
You can imagine how embarrassed I am as a California resident when I get calls from out of state relatives, wondering what the hell is going on.
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As a California I honestly can't imagine it. I've recently had friends & family visit San Francisco from Texas, Toronto, and Michigan and they were all blown away by how bad it...wasn't. Mostly they were blown away by how beautiful it is.
Just curious...what part of NorCal do you live in? If you live at the intersection of Ellis & Taylor in the tenderloin in SF, I could understand your frustration, but is it really that bad just about anywhere else?
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Far left is communism and collectivism, right? What is it about Biden's policies which makes you think he's gone full hammer and sickle?
Instead of proposing solutions to economic problems it seems to be a scapegoat of the week situation over there. Drag queens, transgender people, Ukrainians, woke corporations.
DeSantis's war with Disney is a prime example. By attacking one of his state's major sources of income on ideological grounds because its employees think everyone has the inalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness seems perversely counterproductive to say the least and is probably against your constitution's first amendment. I thought those truths were supposed to be self-evident.
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Really? You're fine with Kate Steinle being killed by a five-time deportee and multiple felon illegal alien, who was only on the streets because SF declared itself a sanctuary city that refused to comply with federal law enforcement, in order to shelter dirt bags who exploit our country?
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You fine with this?
The Right’s Violence Problem (Published 2022)
The Buffalo killings are part of a pattern: Most extremist violence in the U.S. comes from the political right.
I can't recall ever seeing anyone rushing to defend and justify that scumbag's actions, I can't say the same for those that carry out mass shootings.
