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We need a new law. Any one who shows up at a "protest" wearing a ski mask when the temperature is above 30 degrees (-1c), should be arrested.
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People at Halloween would be 🤬 though if they suddenly walked into a protest.
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https://www.thelocal.se/20170112/swedens-2016-crime-stats-analyzed
Posting for the inclusion of context.
Posting for the inclusion of context.
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Nah, just arrest everyone with a face.
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Those who premeditate crimes, and cover their faces, and then go to a rally, allowed by the first amendment of the US constitution, they should be allowed to do what ever, and get away with it?
You don't see Republicans or Trump supporters covering their faces, unless they are trying defend themselves from the physical attacks by the radical left loons.
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If you're commiting a crime, would you not cover your face? It's the same with the sheer amount of right youtubers who just use cartoon avators. They don't want to be revealed to the public especially if they feel what they're doing can bite them personally.
I'm not defending the rioters horrible actions but covering your face should never be against the law, it;s should always be what you do.
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Of course they shouldn't be allowed to do whatever, but they should be allowed to cover their faces - that's not a crime and nor should it ever be.
Oh, I see now.
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- Johnnypenso
Can you point to the part of the article with the statistics? All I see is, "minority groups in the United States say the number of race hate crimes are spiking in President Donald Trump's America.". That's not a statistic it's a feeling. Odd that the example most used is Jewish cemeteries when the President's daughter, son-in-law, and some grandchildren are all Jewish.
Also, an alternative view of the hate crime "increase" after Brexit that strips away the obvious media narrative and takes a deeper look at what's behind some of the stats and some of the individual reported incidents:
http://www.civitas.org.uk/content/files/hatecrimethefactsbehindtheheadlines.pdf
Incorrect. Anyone can wear a mask if they are behaving lawfully, but it is a crime to cover your face during the commission of a crime in many states and the District of Columbia. Anti-masking laws ftw. Good old liberal Canada even has federal laws that criminalize wearing a mask during a riot or other unlawful assembly.
Out of fairness and equal blame for all the bad people that wear masks and before someone brings up the Klan, the anti-masking laws in the U.S. were brought about to help combat the Klan in the mid-20th century. Yes kids, the Klan is bad too and I'm not inferring or implying in any way that the Klan is good by bringing up anti-mask laws when talking about the violent left-wing protestors in the U.S. I am not now and never have been a member of the Klan.
There, that should be enough disclaimers.
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I think you misread.
As you can see the quote I replied to was about lawful assembly and placed a burden of proof onto thought-policing - after all there's no crime in pre-meditation, there has to be a crime. Once a crime is being/has been committed then you're absolutely right. I pointed out that nobody should be allowed to do whatever but I think you missed most of the point.
Danoff
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Really?
You're not really a fan of the constitution or free speech... or America are you?
I know one of those photos is in France, doesn't matter.
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Do values that cause a direct security risk to non-supporters deserve the same kind of legal protection as anything else?
What's even worse is that the masks are keeping the whole frightening movement anonymous. I think there are a lot of people who would like to know their identities just to be able to cut off all contact from the scum protesting in favor of something like that as soon as possible.
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Is it that hard to address the real point?
Never mind the part where I said something about them being a threat to public safety that could be dwindled by their identities becoming public, I guess...
But no, I just "don't like what they say". How enlightening.
Danoff
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I thought it was clear that this was an example of a protest with faces hidden where the protesters "cause a direct security risk to non-supporters". I'm not saying he supports them, I'm saying that in the US we stand behind freedom of speech to the extent that even people who openly advocate violence or suppression of rights, or who advocate trashing portions of the constitution (such as equal protection for black people), are free to demonstrate with faces hidden.
I thought you were actually talking about @Chrunch Houston.
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Oh, nevermind then. I'm sure there's some real science behind it then if you doubt something would happen if we just managed to get rid of those pesky rights protestors have. It could be a solution after all.
Hell, I can do one step better for you: I can go so far as to guarantee a couple of Tienanmen Squares would virtually eliminate any violence against supporters of the Trump administration. So we should ask for that then, right? Let's crackdown on this theoretical violence once and for all.
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Repeat that all you want if it makes you happy, but it's not what I said and you know it. Call me back when you've decided to be more mature about it...
Well, that's some specific quoting there. Reminds me of the guy who only quoted the words "us" and "them" from another post of mine eons ago.
Violence from masked groups like Antifa is not "theoretical", hell, it has popped up quite often ever since Trump's inauguration. Even if said morons were protected from legal prosecution, they should at least face the social consequences. Little Billy from Safe Space University might be less inclined to pepper spray Trump supporters if his name and face became public knowledge afterwards, and Mohammad from the French suburbs wouldn't like to join up with the pro-sharia movement if it meant the loss of his friends who trusted him to be no radical.
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Because those specific parts quoted are the only things really relevant to what you said; which is, again, that people should have rights stripped away because it might lead to a reduction in something that there are already laws in place to handle.
I trust you have the figures available for us to review, then?
It is when you're talking about future incidents of violence that what you are advocating might curb. When you frame your statements in the wishy washy way you have so you can try to justify them it can't really be anything but theoretical.
"But really, it's not because they disagree with me. Honest."
