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It's fake news. You can tell because it's critical of the President.
Dotini
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Obviously there is war between the intelligence agencies, (CIA, Deep State) and Trump.
Stand by for Trump to be removed from the scene. Or for some schmucks to be removed from the White House. One way or the other, someone is going to leave town.
Stand by for Trump to be removed from the scene. Or for some schmucks to be removed from the White House. One way or the other, someone is going to leave town.
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The White House claims that Trump didn't endanger the source, despite reports that the source apparently didn't want their existence revealed:
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...ssified-information-to-russia-reports/8529160
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...ssified-information-to-russia-reports/8529160
It's unlikely that Trump did anything illegal, since the President has broad powers to declassify documents at will. But that doesn't absolve him of any responsibility - he revealed the existence and (apparently) specific intelligence gathered by a source operating in Syria or Iraq (or both) to a senior figure of a government administrator pursuing different political aims in the region.
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And, like clockwork, the story has been dismissed as fake news (although this time it's the Russians doing the dismissing):
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...vealed-secret-information-fake-russia/8531524
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...vealed-secret-information-fake-russia/8531524
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Dear Donald,
Would you like to take five minutes so that you and your staff can all agree on what story you're going to tell everyone?
Would you like to take five minutes so that you and your staff can all agree on what story you're going to tell everyone?
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However, countries ("partners") that share classified information on the understanding that the recipient won't share it further without express permission are going to be less likely to keep the US in their loop. Unfortunately Trump believes he has the "absolute right" to renege on that agreement. Crazy crazy times.
I included his most recent tweet in this screenshot of his feed just for the lulz.
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Has Trump become a security risk for the entire western world? Should all western intelligence and security agencies now take steps to ameliorate this threat?
From the NY Times,
WASHINGTON — The Latest on the report that President Donald Trump shared classified information with Russian officials (all times EDT):
8:25 a.m.
A senior German lawmaker has expressed concern about reports that President Donald Trump revealed highly classified information about the Islamic State group to Russian officials.
Burkhard Lischka said in a statement to The Associated Press that "if it proves to be true that the American president passed on internal intelligence matters that would be highly worrying."
Lischka, who sits on the German parliament's intelligence oversight committee, noted that Trump has access to "exclusive and highly sensitive information including in the area of combating terrorism."
The Social Democratic Party lawmaker said that if the U.S. president "passes this information to other governments at will, then Trump becomes a security risk for the entire western world."
https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/20...rump-intelligence-russia-the-latest.html?_r=0
From the NY Times,
WASHINGTON — The Latest on the report that President Donald Trump shared classified information with Russian officials (all times EDT):
8:25 a.m.
A senior German lawmaker has expressed concern about reports that President Donald Trump revealed highly classified information about the Islamic State group to Russian officials.
Burkhard Lischka said in a statement to The Associated Press that "if it proves to be true that the American president passed on internal intelligence matters that would be highly worrying."
Lischka, who sits on the German parliament's intelligence oversight committee, noted that Trump has access to "exclusive and highly sensitive information including in the area of combating terrorism."
The Social Democratic Party lawmaker said that if the U.S. president "passes this information to other governments at will, then Trump becomes a security risk for the entire western world."
https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/20...rump-intelligence-russia-the-latest.html?_r=0
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Kindof a key point. Presumably also the president has broad powers to accidentally declassify documents due to a lack of brain-mouth filter.
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If you're going to prosecute him then yes, it's a key point. If you've just got to trust him as a partner then his ability to declassify at a whim is a potential disaster. In the past he's been very vocal about the danger that on-the-ground operatives can be placed in by security leaks.
Bloody hell that's even worse... he also has the ability to accidentally press buttons
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To the point, by Sam Kiley (Sky News)
http://news.sky.com/story/donald-tr...signal-something-sinister-is-at-play-10879832
http://news.sky.com/story/donald-tr...signal-something-sinister-is-at-play-10879832
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Bloody hell that's even worse... he also has the ability to accidentally press buttons
The US is running a really weird experiment right now. I still find it hard to believe that we actually elected Donald Trump to the presidency. I still halfway expect people to hold a press conference saying "ok ok, the gig is up... you didn't really elect Trump president, it was actually this stuffy politician here. We cannot believe how long we got away with that prank! You guys are super gullible."
Dotini
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I think so. Trump has lost any and all control of his own White House and its staff. There is a fire hose blasting secrets to the press at full volume. Trump is fighting the Deep State and he is losing bad. This state of affairs cannot be endured.
Trump may fire Priebus, his chief of staff, and a bunch of others as well. He may pull out his pistol and start shooting the people around him. At the end, he may be carted away in chains.
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