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You attempted to use your physicality to shut down a conversation, its a threat and an intimidation. You can try and split hairs over it as much as you like, but you know full well what you did and why you did it. Which is exactly why.......
....unable to convince even yourself you run away.
What was that I said about bullies and being challenged.
Plenty of others have already provided that in detail, but feel free to ignore the history. I mean which party is it that has stood by the Confederate statues and which would have had they been in question in the '50s?
It was the example you used and as such the only one from you I had to comment on, now if you don't like the reply then please feel free to provide more, but don't complain that I used it.
So I do have a fan, excellent I shall have to think of a nick-name.
Opps - too slow, I've edited it already, you missed that bit.
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No. You don't get to present my words as if I said something else. Nor anyone else's.
Yes, perhaps it is time for you to move on. If you can't comprehend that being abusive, insulting and patronising towards other people is not the way conduct civil conversations, this isn't the site for you.
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Have to agree. I know lots of grown adults, women especially, that refer to women by various terms that includes "girl" or "girls" with no insult intended, by I don't know of anyone that calls a grown adult a "little boy" or "little girl" without insult intended. Of course this dilemma only happens on the internet
Only because I’d be too scared to say it IRL...Have to agree. I know lots of grown adults, women especially, that refer to women by various terms that includes "girl" or "girls" with no insult intended, by I don't know of anyone that calls a grown adult a "little boy" or "little girl" without insult intended. Of course this dilemma only happens on the internet
Edit: I didn’t think I’d need to clarify this, but that, was a joke (I’m making this edit as we really don’t need more posts on this)
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I'd use this as an opportunity for reflection. You were presented with a rebuttal to your remarks in a way that was somewhat inflammatory (intentionally so). You response was not to respond intellectually, re-evaluate your position, or deflate the situation. Instead you escalated it by immediately trying to use intimidation. It's somewhat ironic because an internet forum is pretty much the last place that physical intimidation would work. "I bet you wouldn't say that to my face" is insinuating nothing about the legitimacy of that person's perspective or argument, and instead suggests that they should be afraid to call you out on your comment. The fact that you would jump to that on an internet forum suggests to me that this isn't your first rodeo, this is a tried and true mechanism for you for shutting down arguments. It probably works better in person.
My suggestion to you is that you reconsider whether this ever makes sense as a response (in person or on the internet). Either they have a point, in which case you should not try to silence them, or they do not, in which case you should be able to respond - even if that response takes some careful thought and time. Regardless, it is more effective to change hearts and minds with thoughts than with fear tactics.
I'd use this as an opportunity for reflection. You were presented with a rebuttal to your remarks in a way that was somewhat inflammatory (intentionally so). You response was not to respond intellectually, re-evaluate your position, or deflate the situation. Instead you escalated it by immediately trying to use intimidation. It's somewhat ironic because an internet forum is pretty much the last place that physical intimidation would work. "I bet you wouldn't say that to my face" is insinuating nothing about the legitimacy of that person's perspective or argument, and instead suggests that they should be afraid to call you out on your comment. The fact that you would jump to that on an internet forum suggests to me that this isn't your first rodeo, this is a tried and true mechanism for you for shutting down arguments. It probably works better in person.
My suggestion to you is that you reconsider whether this ever makes sense as a response (in person or on the internet). Either they have a point, in which case you should not try to silence them, or they do not, in which case you should be able to respond - even if that response takes some careful thought and time. Regardless, it is more effective to change hearts and minds with thoughts than with fear tactics.
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Still going, still wasting his time...
Edit: Hmm. Phrasing...
No, you called a 28-year old woman "some girl", and were called out on it.
Yep. Guess you didn't spot the fact the hypocrisy of you calling a 28-year old woman "some girl" was being highlighted.
Nope.
Aaaand now you're directly insulting members....
Fun fact: I'd have been sacked in real life if I referred to any female aged 18 or over as a girl in my copy. Or any male aged over 18 as a boy. And in fact the line for 15-18 is a bit fuzzy too.Have to agree. I know lots of grown adults, women especially, that refer to women by various terms that includes "girl" or "girls" with no insult intended, by I don't know of anyone that calls a grown adult a "little boy" or "little girl" without insult intended. Of course this dilemma only happens on the internet
Edit: Hmm. Phrasing...
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Taken in context of the rest of the post in question I flat out don't believe you.
So, no I'm not going to get over it.
You made the comments, you don't get to dismiss them with "get over it".
As has been said, consider your post, and your replies, understand why people have reacted the way they have.
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No I've said this before. Y'all read WAY to much into nothing. I'm done with this stupid argument I got a stupid infraction after being the one who was insulted. Y'all are selectively quoting users to say I'm the one one throwing insults. I'm done. Ill post some links on why socialism failsafter I go to Smyrna to unload and back to Lawrenceville to my new home. No more east Atlanta slums!
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You wanted to fight someone (over the internet) rather than refute the points they made about a pejorative laden post you made, that doesn't make for a great victim card.
Oh and make sure its the right socialism, after all the inability to recognise that its not a single thing was part of what set you off last time, please don;t repeat the same thing.
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Yeeeaaahhh, Ryzno, go call your grandma or your mom "some girl" to their face. I'll put money on them not taking it as nicely as you seem to think they should. No one is buying the crap your trying to shovel here. I thought you were leaving the site anyway. Sure seem pretty hard up for some internet attention here.
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Blame the people who started giving participation trophies
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Both grandmas are dead and I don't know my mom. I'd punch her in the face if I ever met her. That said I said under 30. I've called my girl, girl before...
Socialism will destroy this country. Which was my point as usual y'all find one word to nit pick over.
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Lol.
BTW, you're welcome for your socialism Europe.
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When it comes to "socialism" it's a lot like the story of Goldilocks & the Three Bears. Rigid communism has proved to be a failure. But rigid capitalism hasn't had too great a record either. Democratic socialism - which all the western countries, including the US, have adopted to one degree or another - has been spectacularly successful, resulting in unprecedented general prosperity & (relative) international peace. The various western countries have made continual adjustments over the decades to the balance between socialism & unfettered capitalism - all is not perfect, but it's a system that clearly works better than the alternatives.
@ ryzno - your perspective remains worthwhile to this forum, but I would ask you: have you ever been outside the US? Have you traveled in Europe - in the UK, Germany, France or Sweden? If not, I would suggest your insight is limited by your lack of experience.
@ ryzno - your perspective remains worthwhile to this forum, but I would ask you: have you ever been outside the US? Have you traveled in Europe - in the UK, Germany, France or Sweden? If not, I would suggest your insight is limited by your lack of experience.
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