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Care? Let’s care enough to find out: The Clinton administration passed the Violence Against Women ACT in 1994. “Since it was created, more than $7 billion in federal grants has been given to programs that prevent domestic violence, sexual assault, dating violence and stalking. It has also funded shelters, community programs and studies tracking violence against women.”
Here’s a recent hiccup:
“The National Rifle Association, the nation’s largest gun lobby, sought to block the act’s renewal because of a new provision that expanded law enforcement’s ability to strip domestic abusers of their guns, known as the “boyfriend loophole.”
On April 4, however, the majority-Democratic House, with its historic number of women, easily passed the reauthorization bill.”
“Lawmakers approved the bill in a 263-158 vote, with most Republicans voting against it.” Now we know who cares and who doesn’t
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...inst-women-act-despite-gop-opposition-n990931
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Care? Let’s care enough to find out: The Clinton administration passed the Violence Against Women ACT in 1994. “Since it was created, more than $7 billion in federal grants has been given to programs that prevent domestic violence, sexual assault, dating violence and stalking. It has also funded shelters, community programs and studies tracking violence against women.”
Here’s a recent hiccup:
“The National Rifle Association, the nation’s largest gun lobby, sought to block the act’s renewal because of a new provision that expanded law enforcement’s ability to strip domestic abusers of their guns, known as the “boyfriend loophole.”
On April 4, however, the majority-Democratic House, with its historic number of women, easily passed the reauthorization bill.”
“Lawmakers approved the bill in a 263-158 vote, with most Republicans voting against it.” Now we know who cares and who doesn’t
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...inst-women-act-despite-gop-opposition-n990931
Strange response, I don't get it..
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To think, that there are people out there, that read this and actually agreeing with everything he says.
Its almost as if his youngest son took over his twitter...
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Here’s something far, far stranger: Implying that sexual abuse is only a concern if Trump’s name is attached. Or something which is addressed and measured by media coverage.
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This entire field of Democrat candidates is terrible, which is really disappointing because beating Trump is not that hard. Just find a candidate that isn't falling all over themselves while doing the far left shuffle dance. So far that would be Biden, but he doesn't look like the Biden of the old anymore. You know who would probably kick trump's ass? Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson, but there I go thinking outside the box....I think he would poll very well with the middle and he could steal away enough conservative votes to gain the upper hand in electoral college.
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Strange if bringing up the Clintons or the Democratic house with it's historic number of women. Strange is turning this into a Trump vs Democrats/Republican issue. I don't care about Trump! This is about the disgusting creature Epstein abusing children for years and getting away with it. We live in a world where a man can loose everything with only an accusation of sexual abuse, but this monster gets to do all the insane things he did and live like he is the king of the world.
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I think if we're suggesting celebs I'd go with Mike Rowe. A Rowe/Johnson ticket would be unstoppable.
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I don't watch a lot of TV but I have seen Mike Rowe a time or two, and he strikes me as someone who would appeal to Blue Collar workers. Reagan had George Bush SR and still won against Mondale, just imagine what another actor, Dwayne Johnson, could do with a guy like Mike Rowe on the same ticket.
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Ok, I had no idea Mike Rowe is an Opera singer, learn something new every day...
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You “don’t care about Trump” yet you’re the one who brought him up in explicitly this context. I show you how your context is wrong, but if you don’t want to hear it, that’s your issue.
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The John Oliver video below is about auto lending. I've timed the URL to the point where John talks about repossession and re-sale of the same car over and over again. I couldn't help but think about an angle that he did not talk about at all, which is that the state will collect sales tax on that every single time. How much sense does it make for sales tax to be charged on these cars over and over. I'd imagine it was re-registered each time as well. What a boon for the local government.
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And again you are trying to change the point I was trying to make. The post you responded it to was me being annoyed at people turning a child abuse issue into a Trump issue. How does that make me care about Trump? The story to me is "Epstein is a dirty child abuser who might get away with it again" not "orange man bad said nice things about him once so he must be pedo to". If you can't see that, that's your issue..
I actually hope I'm wrong and this Epstein creature gets the punishment he deserves. I sadly believe this story will quietly disapear from the headlines and the victims will not get justice. Prove me wrong and quote my post in a few months.
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But you brought Trump into the discussion. We're all well aware of the allegations about Trump at Epstein's party but that doesn't mean we're all so stupid that we can't separate the two in our fick 'eads.
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My point was about this issue turning into a political anti Trump thing instead of a look at what this evil man did thing. How can I then not bring up Trump? What do you guys wan't me say? I would rather get your opinions about that disgusting creature Epstein.
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I didn’t say you care about Trump. You’re the one who brought him up, do you get that? Or how many more times do you need to be reminded?
The rest of your post is similarly obtuse because you’ve now directly implied multiple times that sexual exploitation lives and dies via media coverage. Even after I showed you that it doesn’t but *whoosh* again.
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The people who claim this issue is an "anti Trump circlejerk" tend to be the same people who willingly refuse to accept that Trump is massively immoral and/or try to justify Trumps wrongdoings instead of condemning them. Being that Trump has known/ been close with Epstein for many years, likely sexually violated nearly 25 women, and makes sexually objectifying comment about women on the regular, it's inevitable that Trump is in some way involved with Epstein's crimes. Being that you decided to bring in Trump to this discussion, I'm hoping you are not going to be deliberately obtuse and accept that Trump has violated many women throughout his career, and is in no way shape or form on the side of women, or against sexual abusers in general. People tend to protest Trump for good reason, you know.
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Surely this means something.
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The more I read about Epstein the more angry I get.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/12/us/epstein-potential-witness-payments/index.html
Acosta resigns
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/12/politics/alex-acosta-donald-trump-labor-secretary/index.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/12/us/epstein-potential-witness-payments/index.html
Acosta resigns
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/12/politics/alex-acosta-donald-trump-labor-secretary/index.html
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I'm just thinking out loud here, haven't considered all of the potential ramifications of this thought how feasible it is but... what if we were able to hold someone who refused to testify accountable for the future crimes of the person they refused to testify against? I mean, that might seem crazy at first glance, but I think there may be some cases where negligence could be proven. Essentially that you knew you were putting others in danger by refusing to provide what you knew.
Here's a description of negligence
I suppose concerns about this might sound something like the USSR requiring citizens to turn informant on their neighbors.
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Him and his lawyers trying to finesse the judge into granting bail but the judge is having none of it! Good
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There's precedence for that in the UK. For example: under the Children's Act anybody who is aware of harm being caused to a child (causing that harm is an illegal act) has a legal duty to make a statement to the police or to a relevant safeguarding officer. On the face of it it's a good idea but it places a duty of suspicion onto teachers, carers, and so on.
If you're aware that somebody is planning a bank robbery and you fail to report it you can (and probably will) be found guilty of "assisting an offender", the weight of that charge will be considered against the crime that went on to be committed.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-14/trump-spiked-iran-deal-to-spite-obama/11308330
It wouldn't surprise me, considering his stance on Iran compared to North Korea(a country that actually has Nuclear Weapons).
It wouldn't surprise me, considering his stance on Iran compared to North Korea(a country that actually has Nuclear Weapons).
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There are a lot of candidates, but not all terrible. Eventually the "good" candidates will remain.
People who would vote for the rock are the exact swing voters who voted for Trump in 2016. If somebody in showbusiness should be president, It is Oprah. She is respected all over the world on the left and on the right.
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Their share price rocketed when the fine was announced; it is more profitable for a business to break the law and pay a fine than play by the rules.
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Err, Dwayne Johnson is also one of the most respected celebrities in the world as well and would likely landslide any other candidate far more than Oprah at the moment. Oprah would also likely get bullied by other Democrat candidates for being similar to Trump: a self-made billionaire with no political experience. She also has kept her political stances closet to heart, so it's unclear where exactly she would stand on multiple areas.
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I'm not sure that negligence would apply in that case. For example, driving while intoxicated is an example of negligence. But if someone put a gun to your head and told you to drive while intoxicated you're no longer negligent.
I don't like being on this side of the argument, it's much easier for me to argue the other side. Letting someone get away with a criminal act against you because they pay you off does seem to put others at risk and maybe is even assisting the criminal act (depending on the circumstances), but I have a hard time figuring out any good way to prevent it.
