America - The Official Thread

[TexRex]

yes, you got it right, everyone can be problematic, but at least we can control number of possible incoming problems by selecting who can come in, it seems reasonable to me.

What?! Problems aren't known or even guaranteed, and those who cause them are neither known nor guaranteed. This is absurdity of the highest order and is not reasonable justification for denying an individual access to a country.

What's more, it doesn't even address those who are already in the country having never committed a crime unrelated to how they came to be in the country, and you supporting the notion that they should not be permitted to stay indefinitely.

And you know how I see increase in population density, we should aim for steady-state economy followed by post-scarcity economy, not never ending economic growth.

And you know how absolutely hammered this notion that "more people" is a problem got the last time it was discussed. "More people" isn't a problem, but a solution to problems.

You seem passionate about this topic, what exactly is your motivation?

It's a fringe ideology commonly referred to as basic human rights.

And I'm admittedly rather less passionate--but still passionate, mind--in my love for my country, which is founded heavily upon the people who live here, without regard to the manner by which they came to live here.

But do go ahead and slap a label onto that, as so seems to be your prerogative.

 

[Liquid]

Q: If there is a minimum age requirement to be President of the United States (35 years old), why is there not a maximum age?

I know the cynical de facto reason, that these crooked old b:censored:s aren't going to legislate themselves out of hypothetical running, but is there any actual reason why there is an arbitrary minimum age but not a corresponding, arbitrary maximum age?

 

[UKMikey]

Q: If there is a minimum age requirement to be President of the United States (35 years old), why is there not a maximum age?

I know the cynical de facto reason, that these crooked old b:censored:s aren't going to legislate themselves out of hypothetical running, but is there any actual reason why there is an arbitrary minimum age but not a corresponding, arbitrary maximum age?

My uninformed guess is that historically there was no need and that it's only become a problem as potential lifespans have increased towards the end of the previous century. In the old days when an elderly pres was anointed he lasted only a month into the job as I understand it.

 

[TexRex]

In the old days when an elderly pres was anointed he lasted only a month into the job as I understand it.

William Henry Harrison approves.

Yes, that's his approval face. And his happy face. And his sexy bedroom face.

 

[Dotini]

My uninformed guess is that historically there was no need and that it's only become a problem as potential lifespans have increased towards the end of the previous century. In the old days when an elderly pres was anointed he lasted only a month into the job as I understand it.

In the old days, there were no terms limits - a President could be reelected an unlimited number of terms, like Roosevelt who got 4 terms but of course died in office to be replaced by the unknown Truman.

But our first President, George Washington, who was so concerned about the perception that a president could be there for life and take on "Kingly" powers set the tradition of two terms maximum, which was strictly observed on a voluntary basis by every President until Roosevelt.

So there is an upper limit on president's age due to the Constitutional limit of 2 terms.

What is extremely unusual is that with Trump, and now Biden, we are nominating and electing increasing elderly men.

 

[novcze]

It's a fringe ideology commonly referred to as basic human rights.

https://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/

where is right to violate borders of a country?

 

[TexRex]

https://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/

where is right to violate borders of a country?

Take a gander at Article 3. Break out the dictionary if you need to. Articles 9, 13, 14 and 15 are also substantive.

 

[novcze]

Take a gander at Article 3. Break out the dictionary if you need to. Articles 9, 13, 14 and 15 are also substantive.

so basically you are saying that everyone is asylum seeker?

btw. can you name any country which is like you are suggesting (i.e. everyone can become citizen without any requirements from the country)?

 

[TexRex]

so basically you are saying that everyone is asylum seeker?

It's like you're deliberately being ignorant. Literally only one of the five (5, V, cinco, cinq, fünf, pět) articles to which I referred mentions asylum.

btw. can you name any country which is like you are suggesting (i.e. everyone can become citizen without any requirements from the country)?

Since when is someone else doing something first a requirement for doing something? Why is it?

It's already been established that government acts to control those whom it governs. That's what governance is.

And I'd argue that it's possible to stop rather short of granting citizenship while adhering to the spirit of that particular document. Consider residence in place of citizenship, where the latter may entitle one to special privileges that go above and beyond the basic human rights of non-citizen residents.

 

[Biggles]

What is extremely unusual is that with Trump, and now Biden, we are nominating and electing increasing elderly men.

I think this is down to "70 is the new 50", or some such variation on the popular Boomer mantra.

 

[Dotini]

I think this is down to "70 is the new 50", or some such variation on the popular Boomer mantra.

Well, That may be the mantra, but I can tell you from experience that is BS. I personally feel over 70 is too old for any person with the responsibilities of a US President.

 

[andrea]

Order them all.

#NotTheOnion

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

You gotta be kitten me.

 

[TexRex]

There's no connection to the White House.

There was once an actual ‘White House Gift Shop’ in the basement of the Old Executive Office Building. But the current ‘The White House Gift Shop’ is a private for profit company which has no connection to the White House or the Secret Service or any other government entity, despite that fact that it seems to go to some lengths to give the impression that it does.

 

[Joey D]

If that wasn't $100 (it's on sale!) and say like $20 I'd totally get it. I love super tacky, awful, souvenirs.

And just browsing around that site, it looks like there are several historic moment coins with almost all of them being ridiculous. I particularly like the Space Force one and the Christmas Greeting from the Trumps coin. Oh and the "Genius Makes His Own Rules" one featuring Trump is gloriously tacky.

 

[andrea]

It's real but it's not made or sold by the feds. Pretty sure there’s some shell company in Melania’s maiden name tucked away; avoiding corporate taxation & selling these cheap trinkets.

 

[Northstar]

These commemorative coins are nothing new, anyone that has watched daytime tv would know all about them.

This one is rather humorous though as it shows how many people don’t realize the difference between .com and .gov.

And for the record the government does have official commemorative coins, they aren’t as interesting though.

https://www.usmint.gov/learn/coin-and-medal-programs/commemorative-coins

It's real but it's not made or sold by the feds. Pretty sure there’s some shell company in Melania’s maiden name tucked away; avoiding corporate taxation & selling these cheap trinkets.

Can’t wait to see your evidence for this claim. If you don’t, I suggest having some respect for yourself and don’t give the theory space in your head.

 

[TexRex]

This one is rather humorous though as it shows how many people don’t realize the difference between .com and .gov.

WhiteHouse.com was a porn site at one time, but I'm not aware that its runners have ever attempted to deceive anyone who visited. I don't know what it is now, and I don't care to. I opted to not link it. Investigate further at your own risk.

 

[Northstar]

attempted to deceive anyone who visited.

That’s something that has always angered me about these “commemorative” companies. The ads they run on tv/mail do everything they can to make it sound like they are selling legal tender when they are just selling worthless discs. They’re probably not very effective at getting younger buyers, but older folks are usually easier prey for scammers, which is what these companies pretty much are.

And yes, I’m far too lazy to un-format the color of my reply.

 

[TexRex]

 

[Liquid]

As a coin and banknote collector, calling these "things" coins is annoying. They're worthless tokens, a button without a fastner. Their only purpose is that one canfix a very slightly offset wonky table leg.

Now if we're talking US Treasury notes, a Jefferson $2 bill or the Presidential $1 coins...

 

[Biggles]

That’s something that has always angered me about these “commemorative” companies. The ads they run on tv/mail do everything they can to make it sound like they are selling legal tender when they are just selling worthless discs. They’re probably not very effective at getting younger buyers, but older folks are usually easier prey for scammers, which is what these companies pretty much are.

Yup - @Dotini & I have a stack of these in our "investment portfolios".

 

[TexRex]

That looks so weird.

 

[Brett]

As a coin and banknote collector, calling these "things" coins is annoying. They're worthless tokens, a button without a fastner. Their only purpose is that one canfix a very slightly offset wonky table leg.

Now if we're talking US Treasury notes, a Jefferson $2 bill or the Presidential $1 coins...

For many years, my great-grandmother gave me $2 bills for both my birthday and at Christmas. I might have one sitting around somewhere, but probably not.

 

[Northstar]

Apparently even if you have direct deposit you still get a physical letter from Trump just to make sure you remember how great he is.

 

[NotThePrez]

Apparently even if you have direct deposit you still get a physical letter from Trump just to make sure you remember how great he is.

I got the letter a couple days ago. I think within the 2nd or 3rd sentence I started reading it in his voice. I was also annoyed that the letter was sent via IRS, which gave me a small heart attack.

Needless to say, I had a good chuckle and immediately tossed the letter in the trash.

 

[Chrunch Houston]

...the letter was sent via IRS, which gave me a small heart attack.

Yeah, me too.

 

[Downhill Dino]

I made sure to salute the nearest flag and look at pictures of eagles after the letter left me so mesmerized by the greatness of America.

 

[TexRex]

I made sure to salute the nearest flag and look at pictures of eagles after the letter left me so mesmerized by the greatness of America.

Needless to say, I had a good chuckle and immediately tossed the letter in the trash.

You just know people are literally wiping their asses with it.

 

[NotThePrez]

You just know people are literally wiping their asses with it.

That sounds incredibly uncomfortable.

Insert snarky joke about the president kissing my black ass.