America - The Official Thread

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Joining the GTP Glee Club for US death records, my friend Blair celebrates the deaths of so many elderly, disburdening the government of social security payments and allowing their wealth to pass to younger generations.
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Your friend Blair sounds like a total cock.
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Back of envelope time... the 1918 pandemic killed about 675000 in the USA, and if we say that's over 15 months it averages out to about 1500 a day, an already terrible number. However, most deaths occured during the first two peaks in spring and autumn, making the likely average during those times about 3000 per day. Certainly there must have been some very grim days amongst those, even allowing for peaks happening at different times in different cities. It wouldn't surprise me if only Galveston remained in the top ten, and possibly not as the worst day.

And that's not allowing for population increase since then. It really was on another level, although there are parallels with COVID in so many ways (re. the Philadelphia parade and more).
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It's likely far worse than that. About half of all US Spanish Flu deaths occurred in four months - 292k September to December 1918 - rocking in at nearly 2,400 per day. More than half of those came in October 1918, with 195,000 deaths in that month alone, averaging almost 6,300 per day, and that's likely the deadliest single period in US history.

However, there was never any specific recording of daily deaths that I can find, so it's very difficult to divide the data appropriately. I strongly suspect that the top 31 deadliest days in US history in terms of excess deaths from a single vector are all in October 1918, plus Galveston in there somewhere, and one of them will be a 10k day.

That aside, 9/11 is now out of the top five...

1. ~6,000 - September 8, 1900 - Galveston Hurricane
2. 3,650 - September 17, 1862 - Battle of Antietam/Civil War
3. 3,088 - December 9, 2020 - COVID-19 Pandemic*
4. 3,067 - December 10, 2020 - COVID-19 Pandemic
5. ~3,000 - April 18, 1906 - San Francisco Earthquake
6. 2,977 - September 11, 2001 - 9/11
7. 2,769 - May 7, 2020 - COVID-19 Pandemic
8. 2,733 - December 2, 2020 - COVID-19 Pandemic
9. 2,706 - December 3, 2020 - COVID-19 Pandemic
10. 2,661 - April 29, 2020 - COVID-19 Pandemic

December 9th's value seems to have been corrected upwards by a handful since yesterday.
 
Famine
Your friend Blair sounds like a total cock.

It's likely far worse than that. About half of all US Spanish Flu deaths occurred in four months - 292k September to December 1918 - rocking in at nearly 2,400 per day. More than half of those came in October 1918, with 195,000 deaths in that month alone, averaging almost 6,300 per day, and that's likely the deadliest single period in US history.

However, there was never any specific recording of daily deaths that I can find, so it's very difficult to divide the data appropriately. I strongly suspect that the top 31 deadliest days in US history in terms of excess deaths from a single vector are all in October 1918, plus Galveston in there somewhere, and one of them will be a 10k day.

That aside, 9/11 is now out of the top five...

1. ~6,000 - September 8, 1900 - Galveston Hurricane
2. 3,650 - September 17, 1862 - Battle of Antietam/Civil War
3. 3,088 - December 9, 2020 - COVID-19 Pandemic*
4. 3,067 - December 10, 2020 - COVID-19 Pandemic
5. ~3,000 - April 18, 1906 - San Francisco Earthquake
6. 2,977 - September 11, 2001 - 9/11
7. 2,769 - May 7, 2020 - COVID-19 Pandemic
8. 2,733 - December 2, 2020 - COVID-19 Pandemic
9. 2,706 - December 3, 2020 - COVID-19 Pandemic
10. 2,661 - April 29, 2020 - COVID-19 Pandemic

December 9th's value seems to have been corrected upwards by a handful since yesterday.
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I figured that there wouldn't be any fine-grained statistics so didn't try to look, but that meant I also missed that October 1918 was so dreadful.

Top 10 of the last century presumably only has 9/11 other than COVID...?
 
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I figured that there wouldn't be any fine-grained statistics so didn't try to look, but that meant I also missed that October 1918 was so dreadful.
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Indeed, and as you say so much worse considering the much smaller population. By all accounts of the period, Philadelphia nearly died as a city... which is faintly appalling.
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Top 10 of the last century presumably only has 9/11 other than COVID...?
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Yes, COVID is now nine of the top ten from 1/1/01 onwards, with only 9/11 breaking it up in third. Okeechobee would be 11th.
 
How does the 1918-19 epidemic compare to the current pandemic per capita?

At least so far...
 
Liquid
How does the 1918-19 epidemic compare to the current pandemic per capita?

At least so far...
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In terms of deaths, bigly.

Spanish flu in essence killed 675,000 people when the population was somewhere in the region of 105 million. That's about 65 deaths per thousand, or 0.64%. COVID-19 sits at 220,000 or so, with a population of over 330 million, which equates to 7 deaths per thousand, or 0.07%.
 
Famine
Spanish flu in essence killed 675,000 people when the population was somewhere in the region of 105 million. That's about 65 deaths per thousand, or 0.64%. COVID-19 sits at 220,000 or so, with a population of over 330 million, which equates to 7 deaths per thousand, or 0.07%.
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Fair. Thank you.

That doesn't hide the sheer quantity of deaths in pure cardinal numbers though. It... doesn't look good in the USA right now.
 
Famine
In terms of deaths, bigly.

Spanish flu in essence killed 675,000 people when the population was somewhere in the region of 105 million. That's about 65 deaths per thousand, or 0.64%. COVID-19 sits at 220,000 or so, with a population of over 330 million, which equates to 7 deaths per thousand, or 0.07%.
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"Statistics show COVID-19 significantly less dangerous than the flu"
 
Liquid
How does the 1918-19 epidemic compare to the current pandemic per capita?

At least so far...
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As @Famine said, about 8 or 9 times as deadly (so far; that number is falling). But also it killed younger people much more than older - the first chart here of life expectancy puts that somewhat into perspective, even though war also played its part. COVID is serious, no doubt, but it's not going to show up as a huge statistical change in life expectancy like that, if at all.

@Tornado yeah, there's bound to be at least one, but I've grown tired of silencing myself for fear of encouraging them. Suspect others have too.
 
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Sorry, I'm a month out of date. 275,000 or so COVID-19 deaths, and 0.08%.


And yes, that's 55,000 deaths in one month.
 
Excuse the double post, but... erm...

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Too many morons in the world. It is getting ridiculous.


Edit.

The Christmas hat really works well with that smiley.
 
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Barr will leave his post by Christmas. If he'd been better at his job he'd have been able to find concrete evidence of the enormous imaginary fraud. At least he found some kind of principle in the end.
 

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