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I love the way we can all **** on the US Constitution now Trumps exposed it for the worthless piece of crap non Americans have always known it is.
You give him too much credit. The constitution is still doing what it always has, setting out a case for human rights.Trumps exposed it
Do Tesla dealerships count?We are one political building gets "randomly" on fire from USA being WWII Germany
I'm betting that given their subterranean approval levels in Germany,Do Tesla dealerships count?
I guess between Trumpr's call with Putin and the astronauts landing. Both those dudes will say they're saving America.
A Brief History of Sparks that Caused Global War:Do Tesla dealerships count?
Well then it seems Elon is fighting by himself, because as you know, every republican rep/senator voted against the shutdown. Ultimately, what Trump wants is the "line to go up". A government shutdown would do the opposite, especially considering the tumbling stock market and impending recession. So it's pretty clear why Trump and the GOP oppose the shutdown even if it would allow Musk to further exploit DOGE.
Every Dem voted for the shutdown because it was the right thing to do, and they legitimately thought it would pass, as opposed to Schumer flip-flopping. Why would it make any sense, for a party already known for being fragmented, for the house to vote one way but not the senate? It's painfully obvious to any observer that this shows a party without conviction. But please tell me how more about the majority of elected Democrats are on team Musk.How long did you spend trying to answer this question and apparently coming up with nothing? I thought of a reason in 5 seconds - because it makes better press.
I read Schumer's justification and watched his CNN interview before I made my original post. I'm well aware of his argument. At best, he's plain wrong. At worst, it's controlled opposition.That depends on what gets done during the shutdown. I'm not sure how much you really considered the argument Schumer put forth.
This is garbled. You're misunderstanding my own position and using that misunderstanding as a basis for claiming Schumer is doing something that it can't really be argued Schumer is doing. Schumer's not appeasing fascists, at least not according to his statements. He's preventing what he sees as greater control for fascists. And it was my statement that his career is probably ending, not his.
Well I'm sorry you feel that way, but you're wrong. You seem to overestimate Schumer's accountability to the electorate and the nation in general. If he cared this much, then he would step down. It's not "dehumanizing" to suggest that an elected official could have ulterior motives behind what they are doing- they are to be held to much higher standards than the average Joe just by the very nature of their job.This response of yours is not really honest. I think you knew you were mashing up two different things to get to a different point. It's not something I want to spend much responding to other than to say that this kind of argument is a waste.
Correct. Despite my grievances with Pelosi, she is significantly more competent than Jeffries or Schumer, not a close call at all. Her rebuke to Schumer was spot-on.I agree with most of that. Pelosi was the right person for the moment 5 years ago.
Politics today is in large part a popularity contest. Schumer is as unpopular as he could get. Do you really think that this is good for Democrats down the line and their chances in the future?No argument.
Actually yes, I'll just go ahead and say it. The GOP is straight up evil, and literally everything they are pushing for is making the lives of anyone who is not the ultra-rich worse (and especially LGBT, immigrants, and POC). We're quite far removed the Bill Clinton era where bipartisanship was the norm and the two parties, despite pushing for opposing policies, still believed in the same fundamental values (democracy, egalitarianism, free markets, common-sense solutions). Anything that harms Trump is good. Call it heartless if you want, but the times call for ruthlessness. We need Reconstruction-level energy from the Dems. Sure, it's not about going out of your way to oppose literally everything the GOP does, it's about having actual, vigorous opposition to fascism in the bigger picture.Yes but... Schumer is part of the team, and literal opposition to everything just because is it republican is counterproductive. For example, as much as I hate RFK Jr., he is doing a couple of things that are beneficial.
It's interesting that, despite calling me out numerous times in past exchanges for devolving issues into a zero-sum game, you're making this into a zero-sum game yourself. No, the more I criticize Democrats doesn't make me more supportive/complicit towards the GOP and Elon. Perhaps you missed my post from a month ago:Stop trying to eviscerate people that you don't know you should be eviscerating. Schumer is done anyway. Direct your ire at the republicans and Elon.
I would say that out of anyone active in this subforum, @dylansan and I are the most vocal about criticizing the Democratic Party where we see shortcomings, from a progressive left perspective. And it’s great to see that nearly everyone active in this forum can see Trump/Musk/the GOP for the draconian fascists that they are and do a great job of calling them out. So to be honest, yes, it may come across that I criticize democrats more often than republicans. Largely because there are comparatively few members on this sub forum who do so, even as many agree with these criticisms. Just by virtue of very openly being a progressive left Democrat should make it self evident that not only am I opposed to the GOP and all of the draconian fascistic policies and rhetoric it endorses, but it is a much bigger enemy than even the most milquetoast neoliberal corporatist Dems. So no, I do not feel the need to accompany or preempt every criticism I make of the Democrats with an equal (or worse) criticism of the GOP. It’s like saying that any Democrat who would like to criticize Israel’s genocide in Gaza must begin with “well of course Israel has its right to defend itself and I denounce Hamas” before getting to the actual criticism. It begins to quickly get very redundant. And of course, my criticism of the Democrats stem from the fact that I vote for them and would like to see the party not only embrace my own ideals but have a better chance of winning in the future.
I don't think that congress and the executive are quite aligned on this.Well then it seems Elon is fighting by himself, because as you know, every republican rep/senator voted against the shutdown.
I dunno about that. I think Trump is more interested in gutting feds and replacing them with loyalists than the market.Ultimately, what Trump wants is the "line to go up". A government shutdown would do the opposite, especially considering the tumbling stock market and impending recession. So it's pretty clear why Trump and the GOP oppose the shutdown even if it would allow Musk to further exploit DOGE.
It's not going as well for him as I think everyone expected. I see the point that a shutdown creates a massive excuse and ability to accelerate layoffs, and forces departments to put targets on the heads of many feds. It's basically a straight line from a shutdown to massive haphazard reductions.Both outcomes would still lead to some level DOGE cuts anyway, so why cave to Republicans? Trump already has massive power to reshape the federal bureaucracy.
This is just your assumption based on what you brought to the conversation rather than what's actually happening. It makes for much better press to shut down the government and "fight" than to make any kind of concession. You can't sit there and tell me that every democrat who voted one way thought it was the right thing to do and was making a principled stand, and simultaneously say that every democrat who voted the other way is automatically corrupt.Every Dem voted for the shutdown because it was the right thing to do, and they legitimately thought it would pass, as opposed to Schumer flip-flopping.
Do they have a good understanding of what the republicans planed for a shutdown? I'm not sure they do. Schumer was on the same side until he realized that.It's also noteworthy that the largest federal employee union also supports the shutdown over the CR. Are they also on team Musk?
Too broad brush for me.Actually yes, I'll just go ahead and say it. The GOP is straight up evil, and literally everything they are pushing for is making the lives of anyone who is not the ultra-rich worse (and especially LGBT, immigrants, and POC).
I get the sentiment but I won't go that far. Regardless, I'm not sure a government shutdown would have harmed him, or that he'd have rooted against it. I think he was in a win win.Anything that harms Trump is good.
Democrats are so bad at teaming up. It's not a zero-sum fallacy, it's just not running a purity test on allies.It's interesting that, despite calling me out numerous times in past exchanges for devolving issues into a zero-sum game, you're making this into a zero-sum game yourself. No, the more I criticize Democrats doesn't make me more supportive/complicit towards the GOP and Elon. Perhaps you missed my post from a month ago:
Well if anyone wanted to disturb the old deranged orange one or his pack of boot lickers. Just play this loud…
Sickening to think, a country which was once seen as safe place to visit, in the space of 3 months has become somewhat of a no go zone even with all the correct paperwork.Here's an interesting story on the "Immigration Crackdown".
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I’m the Canadian who was detained by Ice for two weeks. It felt like I had been kidnapped
I was stuck in a freezing cell without explanation despite eventually having lawyers and media attention. Yet, compared with others, I was luckywww.theguardian.com
Yup.This is a soft coup
Now this is the story we all need to be sharing on our social medias. Let these assholes know that even their beloved sports outlets, usually ones to ignore politics altogether, aren't immune to their shenanigans.![]()
Jackie Robinson story restored at Defense Dept.
An article about Jackie Robinson's military service was once again available on the Department of Defense website after it was initially deleted with the URL redirecting to one that added the letters "dei."www.espn.com
Souring the reputation of the judiciary, the only branch really standing in the way of law-breaking coupists, a classic tactic used by autocrats in their march toward power.Republicans: "Trump appointed [however many] federal judges. Elections have consequences, libtards!"
Also Republicans:
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Well they have restored it .Now this is the story we all need to be sharing on our social medias. Let these assholes know that even their beloved sports outlets, usually ones to ignore politics altogether, aren't immune to their shenanigans.
I hope ESPN covers every second of anything even remotely sports-related. Take another resources away from these anti-American fascists.
"DEI -- Discriminatory Equity Ideology does the opposite. It Divides the force, Erodes unit cohesion and Interferes with the services' core warfighting mission," Ullyot said. "We are pleased by the rapid compliance across the Department with the directive removing DEI content from all platforms. In the rare cases that content is removed -- either deliberately or by mistake -- that is out of the clearly outlined scope of the directive, we instruct the components and they correct the content so it recognizes our heroes for their dedicated service alongside their fellow Americans, period."
I'm guessing it's in relation to James Boasberg, the judge who ordered the flights to El Salvador be turned back. The dumb gold digger who gets upset if you "insult"/correct her knowledge of the economy even lambasted him as an Obama-appointed judge. He's a Bush-appointed judge, Obama elevated his position with a 96-0 approval.Souring the reputation of the judiciary, the only branch really standing in the way of law-breaking coupists, a classic tactic used by autocrats in their march toward power.
What was this tweet in context to? I suppose it could be to anything because judges are having to work overtime right now lol.
Discriminatory Equity Ideology does the opposite. It Divides the force, Erodes unit cohesion and Interferes with the services' core warfighting mission,