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Irony is that you can say the same about FMPD haven't made a proper GT game since GT4.
That was TWO console generations ago.
Irony is that you can say the same about FMPD haven't made a proper GT game since GT4.
That was TWO console generations ago.
I completely disagree. You are missing the point here unfortunately. PS4 runs perfectly fine with GT7.Why simply because we want a gt game that are not holdback by ps4, and sophy ai fully integreted, gt8 will become reality whatever you like it or not, gt7 as its core and what it does well, its good game, where it lacks is in single player department and some way needs a better progression, but gt7 is far from alone in this faith, fm is even worse despite taking 1,5 years longer, new test drive solar crown will be worst of them all with full pvp,
If you dont want to buy the next gt game dont, nobody is forced to do so
I completely disagree. You are missing the point here unfortunately. PS4 runs perfectly fine with GT7.
What is frustrating is, after spending a huge amount of money on GT7, you get this:
1. Most circuits have an average of 3 lap race
2. You start at the back, and by the time you reach the 1st corner, the leader is 40 - 45 secs ahead
3. There's no events for GR1 cars and GR2 cars. As a result, most cars are just garage queens
4. We have great beautiful circuits like Bathurst, but yet, there's hardly any events there.
5. For custom races, your payout is pure crap. The best part is, the Ai actually signals and give you way to overtake them.
6. The idea of endurance is just 1 hour race
7. You can't repeat any of the human comedy races and tryout different cars, because there's no payout if you have already completed the event.
8. Most cars that have an average of 200 - 400 PP, are garage queens, simply because there's hardly any events
9. The soft tyres on A1 can last as long a your hard tyre. But when you use the soft tyre, it's cooked within 2 laps.
10. There is absolutely no career mode, something that was in the past GTs. Look at GT4. Quite simply the best damn game ever made. Period.
Now, take a long hard read and understanding here, and please elaborate to me how is PS4 holding back GT7?
That's right. It's not PS4, but rather, the pure sheer laziness of PD releasing an incomplete game, where, almost 2 years now, and there's hardly anything exciting about GT7.
So, excuse me if I'm able to analyze the situation, and choose not to be stupidly conned by PD to buy another incomplete game in the form of GT8.
complaints, complaints, complaints. It's all i see is complaints about GT7, nothing new or speculative on if and what we can possibly see for GT8
There's still 4-5 years before PS6 which is expected late 2028.I guess GT8 will be a Cross-Gen release between PS5/6.
By your Logic shouldn't GT7 have released on PS7? Where is the PS7?GT8 = PS8 (I called it before, and I'll call it again)
It took Rockstar over 10 years to release a trailer for GTA 6, after the launch of GT5 ... this is now the norm in the gaming/digital social media landscape.
By the time GT8 is launched, a fair chunk of existing players will have given up, got married, have children, found new/better hobbies etc etc, and replaced by the new generation of gamers to make up the numbers.
The last thing on earth is that GT7 is "great" that implies that it is strong in all areas. It is total rubbish as a one player game. Forza Motorsport is better in Free Play than GT7 single player. It looks better too. GT7 may have the car graphics but Forza tracks are much better. Do you even own Forza?I can see gt8 been showcased this year but at latest next year
Dont quite agree about that, gt7 is a great game just with some flaws specially with single player and progression, but every modern racing game has a bad single player, fm 23 is even worse than gt7, while i think gt7 is not exactly great in single player, fm has no varity its just the same races with different cars, no endurance races and no races that uses race cars or take advantage of tyre wear and fuel, and lets not forget its fomo, its quite sad you defend fm single player while jumping on gt7 career, at least gt7 has licences driving experinces, driving missions and even races that uses fuel and Tyre wear, to create more varity,
I was not associating the generation of console to a specific release of the game, I was projecting the ever increasing time scales for the next iteration of major digital 'content' to become a reality.By your Logic shouldn't GT7 have released on PS7? Where is the PS7?
I'd agree if we're talking about Rockstar games only. It's understandable that GTAVI is only releasing after a decade due to how profitable a game GTAV was, GTAV being the most profitable entertainment release, ever. So any new GTA game is no small game, but Gran Turismo? They're not even comparable in terms of profit let alone genre. The formula of GT hasn't really changed, and it's not a open-world with thousands of missions, side-quests and things to do.. Developing a Gran Turismo game should never take more than 5 years, at most. Gran Turismo's direct competitor; Forza, doesn't even take that long, sometimes just 2 years, AND they do very technically impressive open world with beautiful environments. Go figure!I was not associating the generation of console to a specific release of the game, I was projecting the ever increasing time scales for the next iteration of major digital 'content' to become a reality.
PS8 just ties in nicely given it how feasible it could exist within the next 10 years.
Plus, didn’t even mention SIE/PlayStation Studios owns PD and definitely would not allow 2 entire console generations to be released without a GT game. GT games have a direct impact on PS console and accessory sales, amongst other things. Unless PD is shut down and GT is no more, or GT pauses the numbered games and starts releasing other games, there’s absolutely no way GT8 doesn’t release at least on PS6 at some point.I'd agree if we're talking about Rockstar games only. It's understandable that GTAVI is only releasing after a decade due to how profitable a game GTAV was, GTAV being the most profitable entertainment release, ever. So any new GTA game is no small game, but Gran Turismo? They're not even comparable in terms of profit let alone genre. The formula of GT hasn't really changed, and it's not a open-world with thousands of missions, side-quests and things to do.. Developing a Gran Turismo game should never take more than 5 years, at most. Gran Turismo's direct competitor; Forza, doesn't even take that long, sometimes just 2 years, AND they do very technically impressive open world with beautiful environments. Go figure!
But if you could and want to compare GTA with GT on a technical level, all GT has going for it is the framerate and graphics on PS5, in replay mode. GTA is a much bigger game with a much bigger audience and is more technically impressive in pretty much every other area of the game than GT. I wouldn't be betting on it taking more than 5 years for the next GT game, at latest being 2029. One big reason is to drop the cross-gen crap and make a dedicated PS5 game that will look the part. My money's on it being sooner rather than later.
Yes Rockstar's revenue on content far out strips what Sony have generated from the Gran Turismo 6, Sport & 7 titles, however Sony have traditionally played the game of selling hardware that the GT games serve to showcase.I'd agree if we're talking about Rockstar games only. It's understandable that GTAVI is only releasing after a decade due to how profitable a game GTAV was, GTAV being the most profitable entertainment release, ever. So any new GTA game is no small game, but Gran Turismo? They're not even comparable in terms of profit let alone genre. The formula of GT hasn't really changed, and it's not a open-world with thousands of missions, side-quests and things to do.. Developing a Gran Turismo game should never take more than 5 years, at most. Gran Turismo's direct competitor; Forza, doesn't even take that long, sometimes just 2 years, AND they do very technically impressive open world with beautiful environments. Go figure!
I too was going to buy a Series X for Forza Motorsport. I held off after some worries about the lack of news and all-new content.The last thing on earth is that GT7 is "great" that implies that it is strong in all areas. It is total rubbish as a one player game. Forza Motorsport is better in Free Play than GT7 single player. It looks better too. GT7 may have the car graphics but Forza tracks are much better. Do you even own Forza?
PD's reputation goes before them in terms of delays. But there are some wild predictions with regards to how far away GT8 is. As mentioned earlier 3-4 years is the typical release schedule for mainline GT's. Sequels on the same hardware have been nearer 3 years. While I think that's optimistic for all manner of reasons - PD clearly have a very good dev pipeline as show by the early gen release of GT7 - followed by day one PSVR2 support. I expect day one PS5 Pro support - I just wonder how extensive that will be. I wouldn't rule out GT8 being showcased alongside PS5 Pro.Something to keep in mind here is Sony is keeping everything very close to their chest regarding PS Studios games as a whole - across their ~15 first-party developers there's only four officially announced new game projects (Wolverine, Fairgame$, Marathon and Concord) all of which have been nothing but CGI announcement trailers.
They don't seem to be in the business of announcing things years out in advance anymore.
The last thing on earth is that GT7 is "great" that implies that it is strong in all areas. It is total rubbish as a one player game. Forza Motorsport is better in Free Play than GT7 single player. It looks better too. GT7 may have the car graphics but Forza tracks are much better. Do you even own Forza?
Forza Motorsport is a bloody good game. End of. Unless you're on PC. Then it sucks.The single player sucks in both, but sucks even more in fm 23, as they are no varity, they choise to make all new career fomo and they are no defending that, forza does not always have better looking tracks, the enviroments is more detailed but the track itself i would say no, gt7 has better textures and at times its even more accurate witch you can already see in digital foundry camparsion, witch gt7 won by the way, forza has inaccurate trees and things in the wrong locations, the only advantage fm has over gt7 in the graphics is enviroment detail everything else looks better in gt7 and its crossgen game campared to forza thats only current gen and is on pc, gt7 car models is also miles a head,
Gt7 while its flawed have much more overall better pakage between the two,
And no i have not bought the new forza is not worth my money its a complete mess, not even many off the forza youtubers wants to play it anymore and thats for good reason
I am not a forza hater either because i have had every other forza game since launch for the last 10 years, but if you enjoy it i am not standing in the way of that, but objectivly is in a pretty bad state there is no deny of that,
Forza Motorsport is a bloody good game. End of. Unless you're on PC. Then it sucks.
GTA doesn’t translate at all to GT here, really. You’ve said so much yourself already to disprove your own theory. It’s 100% true that GTA offers content and features that a lot of (all?) players use to live out some dark, twisted and very unrealistic fantasies. GT offers about as close to real as one can get for the most part given its constraints. Loads of people crave the kind of content GTA offers and are very much willing to pay for it. GTA does this in so many ways and more diverse ways than GT does. GTA V survived this long thanks mainly to its users being willing to spend significant amounts of money to access and use new offerings to continue to live out those fantasies. It also exists on various platforms and is not exclusive to 1 console that uses it to sell products and generate revenue, among other things.Yes Rockstar's revenue on content far out strips what Sony have generated from the Gran Turismo 6, Sport & 7 titles, however Sony have traditionally played the game of selling hardware that the GT games serve to showcase.
Rockstar made a killing on top of the base single player release thanks to cash cards, subscription revenue, and supporting the game across 3 generations of Playstation & Xbox, along with the PC gamer community. They continued to give their core online audience (people who use barcode usernames spend hours leaping between GTAO lobbies to troll other players) new content (i.e weapons, tanks, jet fighters, hover bikes) ... they tap into a segment of society that are willing to pay to live out their dark fantasies. It's not that far from the pornography industry really ...
They (IMO) have set a precedent in how many years you can stretch a game before market pressure forces you to create a new product, and still have existing people (and new/younger audiences) who are happy to wait and pay for it. It gives Sony/PD breathing space and plenty of excuses to take their time, all while drip feeding the GT7 platform for as long as they can keep it on life support ...
It may be negative, but t might just be based on fact based on the way the current game is and the trend for video games to be "Subscription" based where you do not own anything.Not following thread, too negative....
It may be negative, but t might just be based on fact based on the way the current game is and the trend for video games to be "Subscription" based where you do not own anything.
Which is why, as a company, they were under little pressure to release the next game while GTA5 was still bringing in a whole lot of revenue. If they released GTA6 5 years ago, GTA5 wouldn't have half as much revenue from the last 5 years as it has grossed.Yes Rockstar's revenue on content far out strips what Sony have generated from the Gran Turismo 6, Sport & 7 titles, however Sony have traditionally played the game of selling hardware that the GT games serve to showcase.
Something GT7 isn't doing/capable of doing.Rockstar made a killing on top of the base single player release thanks to cash cards, subscription revenue, and supporting the game across 3 generations of Playstation & Xbox, along with the PC gamer community. They continued to give their core online audience (people who use barcode usernames spend hours leaping between GTAO lobbies to troll other players) new content (i.e weapons, tanks, jet fighters, hover bikes) ... they tap into a segment of society that are willing to pay to live out their dark fantasies. It's not that far from the pornography industry really ...
No they haven't, there have been games with longer development cycles and many other games with 8+ year development cycles well before GTA6. There's no precedent here.They (IMO) have set a precedent in how many years you can stretch a game before market pressure forces you to create a new product, and still have existing people (and new/younger audiences) who are happy to wait and pay for it. It gives Sony/PD breathing space and plenty of excuses to take their time, all while drip feeding the GT7 platform for as long as they can keep it on life support ...
You haven’t even played FM23 and all you do is hate on it. Every time I check this section of the forum and here you are. The grind in GT7 is horrific and everything is so expensive that it’s a necessity. Permanent upgrades are much worse than FM23’s upgrade grind in my opinion. I don’t have to keep buying multiples to try different parts or engine swaps.The single player sucks in both, but sucks even more in fm 23, as they are no varity, they choise to make all new career fomo and they are no defending that, forza does not always have better looking tracks, the enviroments is more detailed but the track itself i would say no, gt7 has better textures and at times its even more accurate witch you can already see in digital foundry camparsion, witch gt7 won by the way, forza has inaccurate trees and things in the wrong locations, the only advantage fm has over gt7 in the graphics is enviroment detail everything else looks better in gt7 and its crossgen game campared to forza thats only current gen and is on pc, gt7 car models is also miles a head,
Gt7 while its flawed have much more overall better pakage between the two,
And no i have not bought the new forza is not worth my money its a complete mess, not even many off the forza youtubers wants to play it anymore and thats for good reason
I am not a forza hater either because i have had every other forza game since launch for the last 10 years, but if you enjoy it i am not standing in the way of that, but objectivly is in a pretty bad state there is no deny of that,
You haven’t even played FM23 and all you do is hate on it. Every time I check this section of the forum and here you are. The grind in GT7 is horrific and everything is so expensive that it’s a necessity. Permanent upgrades are much worse than FM23’s upgrade grind in my opinion. I don’t have to keep buying multiples to try different parts or engine swaps.
Edit: woops this is actually the GT7 forum, still the same broken record.
You haven’t even played FM23 and all you do is hate on it. Every time I check this section of the forum and here you are. The grind in GT7 is horrific and everything is so expensive that it’s a necessity. Permanent upgrades are much worse than FM23’s upgrade grind in my opinion. I don’t have to keep buying multiples to try different parts or engine swaps.
Edit: woops this is actually the GT7 forum, still the same broken record.