Apocalypse

[Famine]

The entire world is to disappear with lots of people currently living at the end of 2012(Exactly the date is Dec, 22th of the year)if the prediction of mayan people and Nostradums is correct

There is no Mayan prediction of the end of the world then. Or ever. It's based on a misunderstanding of the Mayan calendar, addressed at the very beginning of this thread.

You're really going to regret saying this if and when Joey_D sees it.

I'll fill you in on the basics though. No it doesn't, it merely ticks over to the 13th Baktun from the 12th - 12.19.19.17.19 on 20th December. The Mayan long count runs out of numbers on 12th October 4772 (19.19.19.17.19), but the next day sees the start of the 1st Piktun - 1.0.0.0.0.0

Thanks Famine.

Any way the Mayan calendar does not call for an Earthly end. It's an end of one of the cycles in the calendar, it's no different the going from a Sunday to a Monday to start a new week. The Mayan calender doesn't end for 41,341,049,999,999,999,999,999,994,878 years...or there abouts.

Basically the media got a hold of this idea the Earth will end when the Mayan calender ends a cycle, blew it way out of proportion and now people seem to think it's actually going to happen without a good understanding of what it all means. I blame the Discovery Channel/History Channel personally since they have Apocalypse Week and air all these shows that have nut jobs saying the world's going to get hit by Nibiru, have the magnetics of the Earth flip flop, or just have something explode. My personal favourite is the Nibiru collision because the planet has a cool name.

 

[DK]

I'm wondering, would the supposed apocalypse happen on 21/12 in Australia? Because I'll be pissed if it started on 20/12 where I live, but it's 21/12 over in Australia.

(Personally I think that this supposed apocalypse is a load of crap, although even though these people predicting doomsday are always wrong (as of 12:34pm BST on 11/6/10) they only have to be right once).

 

[kiladonut]

the end alllife on earth will be caused by global warming. oh wait that doesn't exists

....ummm gamma rays!

 

[DK]

the end alllife on earth will be caused by global warming. oh wait that doesn't exists

....ummm gamma rays!

Let's try translating that into English.

The end all life on earth will be caused by global warming. Oh wait, that doesn't exist.

What about gamma rays?

You're entitled to your views on climate change just the same as any other human being. But may I quote the AUP?

Decent grammar is expected at all times, including proper usage of capital letters.

 

[kiladonut]

Firstly, I would like to apologize for not following the AUP. I was new and wanted to jump in and post. With that said:

Driftking,

A pm would have been much more acceptable. My post may not have been proper English but it was English and you could translate. That fact makes me confident 100% of the users on this forum could too. Thanks for being rude though.

On a final note, climate change and global warming are two different things. Thanks for the warm welcome to the forum though.

 

[lbsf1]

Firstly, I would like to apologize for not following the AUP. I was new and wanted to jump in and post. With that said:

Driftking,

A pm would have been much more acceptable. My post may not have been proper English but it was English and you could translate. That fact makes me confident 100% of the users on this forum could too. Thanks for being rude though.

On a final note, climate change and global warming are two different things. Thanks for the warm welcome to the forum though.

Let me be the first to give you a warm welcome to gtplanet.
Yep you are damn right about that, global warming contributes to climate change but not the other way around.

 

[Dotini]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...e-extinct-100-years-population-explosion.html

Here's a daft microbiologist who asserts the human race will be extinct within 100 years. Should he be locked up?

 

[DK]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...e-extinct-100-years-population-explosion.html

Here's a daft microbiologist who asserts the human race will be extinct within 100 years. Should he be locked up?

There's many ways we humans can wipe ourselves out. Bioterrorism (e.g. releasing a sample of smallpox), runaway global warming, Sarah Palin...not to mention the numerous things Mother Nature can throw at us (asteroids, famine, moderators with the same name (j/k), earthquakes, volcanoes etc).

 

[lbsf1]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...e-extinct-100-years-population-explosion.html

Here's a daft microbiologist who asserts the human race will be extinct within 100 years. Should he be locked up?

I think he may have a point actually. I think we will have major problems due to population growth and climate change. However I don't think we will extinct ourself's. Whatever happens I think always a few would survive and then hopefully repopulate the earth over thousands of years.

I think only disease or natural disaster may be able to extinct the whole of the human population. Even though a few people in very remote places might survive disease and if some people lived in bunkers they might be able to survive a natural disaster like a metiorid impact.

Lets hope we don't have to find out the answers!!

 

[Dotini]

http://www.stuartwildeblog.com/sws-...-article-doomsday-methane-bubble-rupture.html

Here's all the exciting details of a civilization-ending doomsday/apocalypse scenario potentially unfolding now in the Gulf of Mexico. A taste:

"Ominous reports are leaking past the BP Gulf salvage operation news
blackout that the disaster unfolding in the Gulf of Mexico may be
about to reach biblical proportions.

251 million years ago a mammoth undersea methane bubble caused massive
explosions, poisoned the atmosphere and destroyed more than 96 percent
of all life on Earth. [1] Experts agree that what is known as the
Permian extinction event was the greatest mass extinction event in the
history of the world. [2]

55 million years later another methane bubble ruptured causing more
mass extinctions during the Late Paleocene Thermal Maximum (LPTM).

The LPTM lasted 100,000 years. [3]

Those subterranean seas of methane virtually reshaped the planet when
they explosively blew from deep beneath the waters of what is today
called the Gulf of Mexico.

Now, worried scientists are increasingly concerned the same series of
catastrophic events that led to worldwide death back then may be
happening again-and no known technology can stop it.

The bottom line: BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling operation may have
triggered an irreversible, cascading geological Apocalypse that will
culminate with the first mass extinction of life on Earth in many
millions of years."

 

[TURNER_042]

http://www.stuartwildeblog.com/sws-...-article-doomsday-methane-bubble-rupture.html

Here's all the exciting details of a civilization-ending doomsday/apocalypse scenario potentially unfolding now in the Gulf of Mexico. A taste:

"Ominous reports are leaking past the BP Gulf salvage operation news
blackout that the disaster unfolding in the Gulf of Mexico may be
about to reach biblical proportions.

251 million years ago a mammoth undersea methane bubble caused massive
explosions, poisoned the atmosphere and destroyed more than 96 percent
of all life on Earth. [1] Experts agree that what is known as the
Permian extinction event was the greatest mass extinction event in the
history of the world. [2]

55 million years later another methane bubble ruptured causing more
mass extinctions during the Late Paleocene Thermal Maximum (LPTM).

The LPTM lasted 100,000 years. [3]

Those subterranean seas of methane virtually reshaped the planet when
they explosively blew from deep beneath the waters of what is today
called the Gulf of Mexico.

Now, worried scientists are increasingly concerned the same series of
catastrophic events that led to worldwide death back then may be
happening again-and no known technology can stop it.

The bottom line: BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling operation may have
triggered an irreversible, cascading geological Apocalypse that will
culminate with the first mass extinction of life on Earth in many
millions of years."

i also read that this leaking of methane happened over a few thousand years before there was enough to start exploding with lightning or poisoning everyone. so we shouldent really worry lol



EDIT: btw guys, have you read this, pretty funny stuff about the 2012 mascots, the all seeing eye, illuminati...

the end bit is mad though as on there heads is the finishing blocks to the pyramid : http://www.december212012.com/articles/news/2012_Olympic_mascot_reigns_in_New_World_Order.htm

 

[Dotini]

http://welcometoafreeworld.blogspot.com/2010/08/nasa-says-large-cme-on-sun-headed-for.html

August 3 CME predicted to hit Earth by NASA.

Interesting video included.

Edit: Also see here:http://www.spaceweather.com/

 

[Famine]

http://welcometoafreeworld.blogspot.com/2010/08/nasa-says-large-cme-on-sun-headed-for.html

August 3 CME predicted to hit Earth by NASA.

Interesting disparity here.

The problem is, the eruption occurred on the side of the sun facing earth which means, the Coronal Mass Ejection is on its way to the planet earth. It's expected arrival is Aug. 3. This is known as a geomagnetic storm, and they have been known to cause electrical power outages and damage communications satellites. They drive shock waves which produce energetic particles that can be damaging to both electronic equipment and astronauts that venture outside the protection of the Earth's magnetic field.

Expect the government and all observatories to be on high alert. They know a CME is coming, they can probably prepare for its arrival.

On August 1st around 0855 UT, Earth orbiting satellites detected a C3-class solar flare. The origin of the blast was Earth-facing sunspot 1092. C-class solar flares are small (when compared to X and M-class flares) and usually have few noticeable consequences here on Earth besides aurorae. This one has spawned a coronal mass ejection heading in Earth's direction.

When a coronal mass ejection reaches Earth, it interacts with our planet’s magnetic field, potentially creating a geomagnetic storm. Solar particles stream down the field lines toward Earth’s poles and collide with atoms of nitrogen and oxygen in the atmosphere, resulting in spectacular auroral displays. On the evening of August 3rd/4th, skywatchers in the northern U.S. and other countries should look toward the north for the rippling dancing “curtains” of green and red light.

Not a shocker though, given that the blog's author, for his degree in ancient history (minoring in law) can't tell the difference between "effect" and "affect"...

 

[Joey D]

The CME happened. We didn't die and the world didn't end. Fancy that.

 

[lbsf1]

The CME happened. We didn't die and the world didn't end. Fancy that.

Its not the end of august the 3rd though.

 

[Dotini]

http://www.solarcycle24.com/

I've found a superior site to monitor such events in the future. Spaceweather.com is not bad, either.

http://news.discovery.com/space/earth-gets-geomagnetic-wallop.html
This site gives beautiful photos of the aurorae from the ground and the space station.

http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/advisories/bulletins.html
Here is the NOAA space weather advisory.

http://www.sky-fire.tv/index.cgi/spritesbluejetselves.html
This site gives information on sprites, elves and other upper atmospheric phenomena.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/spacequakes-shake-earth-atmosphere-100727.html
The sun can cause Earth's magnetosphere to shake violently.

 

[DK]

Its not the end of august the 3rd though.

It is in New Zealand.

 

[lbsf1]

It is in New Zealand.

That brings up the saying of don't worry the world won't end today because its allready tommorow in Australia.

 

[Dotini]

the difference between "effect" and "affect"...

Faux news and Dr. Kuku said CME's could affect and even knock out GPS satellites. All the NASA sites said so, too. I hope you don't think this is wrong?

US aviation industry lobbyists appear to have successfully persuaded government to switch from radar to GPS. Personally I think this is deplorable. Even though I rarely fly anymore, I can envision a giant problem for commercial aviation and the traveling public once a CME does shut down GPS.

Therefore I think it can only be good for the general public to be aware of CME's and their potential affects.

 

[Famine]

I hope you don't think this is wrong?

What would give you that impression?

I can envision a giant problem for commercial aviation and the traveling public once a CME does shut down GPS.

Good job we get about 24 hours' notice then, really.

their potential affects.

It's catching.

 

[Dotini]

What would give you that impression?

Nothing, other than in previous posts from quite some time ago you denied the sun had the ability to disrupt our satellite technology. Since then, I've had the impression that you've changed your mind, and I wanted to test that.

Respectfully,
Dotini

 

[Famine]

in previous posts from quite some time ago you denied the sun had the ability to disrupt our satellite technology

I did nothing of the sort.

 

[Dotini]

I did nothing of the sort.

Okay, thanks for that.

Here's a treat for you:

http://wimp.com/dolphinbubbles/

 

[Famine]

Okay, thanks for that.

Clearly you think otherwise. Find it. Quote it. Post it. In the meantime, here's a portion of the AUP for you to have a good read:

* You will not knowingly post any material that is false, misleading, or inaccurate.

If I'd posted anything close to "denying the sun had the ability to disrupt our satellite technology" I want to know about it, because it means someone other than me has been posting on my account.

 

[Dotini]

Clearly you think otherwise. Find it. Quote it. Post it.

No, no. I totally accept what you say. I honestly wouldn't know how to search through all those hundreds of pages to find what might have made me think that. Did you like the dolphin rings?

 

[kikie]

Is it true that the Mayan calendar mentions December 24th 2011 as a day something is going to happen?

 

[Alex.]

I think it just ended on the 21st.

 

[kikie]

I think it just ended on the 21st.

 

[Joel]

Is it true that the Mayan calendar mentions December 24th 2011 as a day something is going to happen?

Any way the Mayan calendar does not call for an Earthly end. It's an end of one of the cycles in the calendar, it's no different the going from a Sunday to a Monday to start a new week. The Mayan calender doesn't end for 41,341,049,999,999,999,999,999,994,878 years...or there abouts.

Basically the media got a hold of this idea the Earth will end when the Mayan calender ends a cycle, blew it way out of proportion and now people seem to think it's actually going to happen without a good understanding of what it all means. I blame the Discovery Channel/History Channel personally since they have Apocalypse Week and air all these shows that have nut jobs saying the world's going to get hit by Nibiru, have the magnetics of the Earth flip flop, or just have something explode. My personal favourite is the Nibiru collision because the planet has a cool name.

There you go.

 

[Alex.]

I thought the calendar simply stopped on the 21st of December or equivalent date for their system, instead of mentioning an apocalypse.