Assetto corsa coming to PS4 and Xbox one

[RaceFuchs]

More and more, Kunos needs to update the track environments to match the quality of their cars.

Well, they already did that a couple of months ago, before the console version came out. I guess there wont be any other upgrades because the console version already pushes PS4/Xbox to their limits. Its sad to see performance got worse with the new update so in all honestly, i would rather like to see a graphical downgrade if this would mean we could drive with 16 cars on track with a solid, stable frame rate.

 

[Donnced]

Well, they already did that a couple of months ago, before the console version came out. I guess there wont be any other upgrades because the console version already pushes PS4/Xbox to their limits. Its sad to see performance got worse with the new update so in all honestly, i would rather like to see a graphical downgrade if this would mean we could drive with 16 cars on track with a solid, stable frame rate.

Honestly, i really don't think Assetto pushes PS4/Xbox to the limits.
I think it's really a lack of optimisation..
Even Stefano replied this to an user that thought that forza had better graphics and framerate because it's physics engine isn't so "pure sim" like those from Assetto :

So...i keep saying... Kunos has a to small studio for work and optimise good 3 versions of the game

 

[35mm]

Well, they already did that a couple of months ago, before the console version came out. I guess there wont be any other upgrades because the console version already pushes PS4/Xbox to their limits. Its sad to see performance got worse with the new update so in all honestly, i would rather like to see a graphical downgrade if this would mean we could drive with 16 cars on track with a solid, stable frame rate.

Downgrading should not be the way forward, in my opinion.

And like it was said in the previous post, other console titles show us that it can be done much better. They just need to work it out.

 

[RaceFuchs]

Honestly, i really don't think Assetto pushes PS4/Xbox to the limits.
I think it's really a lack of optimisation..

Yes, you're right. I just meant that AC struggles on consoles right now. Adding more details and effects would cause trouble for sure. By the way, i think that AC does pretty well in terms of graphics. The car models look great, inboard is stunning, lightning is realistic and track detail isnt that bad - look at the Nordschleife, that track looks more natural and realistic in AC than any other game, they nailed the atmosphere and the way those trees look. Do a side-by-side comparsion with GT6 and it gets even clearer. Polyphony did those trees wrong!

I would even go as far as to say that AC doesent look bad compared to Forza 6. Forza 6 has nice details and 24 cars on track, but the image quality isnt as clean and sharp as i would expect from a current-gen racer. I prefer a sharp, clean image over graphical details or effects. Forza 6 might looks amazing in screenshots and trailers but if you have played the game on xbox one, you will probably know what i mean.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Well, they already did that a couple of months ago, before the console version came out. I guess there wont be any other upgrades because the console version already pushes PS4/Xbox to their limits. Its sad to see performance got worse with the new update so in all honestly, i would rather like to see a graphical downgrade if this would mean we could drive with 16 cars on track with a solid, stable frame rate.

This may not be good alternative, but you can force the PS4 to 720p video mode and force audio to stereo uncompressed ( LPCM ), this may help increase FPS stability ( if you have PS4 version ). If forcing 720p do not help, then just have to wait for optimization update.

 

[killerjimbag]

This may not be good alternative, but you can force the PS4 to 720p video mode and force audio to stereo uncompressed ( LPCM ), this may help increase FPS stability ( if you have PS4 version ). If forcing 720p do not help, then just have to wait for optimization update.

Have you tried it? Why the hell would someone force it to 720?

 

[bleeder]

Have you tried it? Why the hell would someone force it to 720?

Yes, surely the game itself is rendered at 1080 so forcing the console to output 720 would surely mean the PS4 would have to downscale it which in itself would take some processing power? Don't know. But I've never heard doing a resolution drop in the hardware itself makes performance increases in a game.

 

[azidahaka]

Definitely. Plus whatever they tweaked to the race starts has helped as I'm hardly having to restart at all now. Even at Imola. And Monza! They seem to have found some gentlemen to drive their cars now lol

Can someone on ps4 confirm this?

I shelved the game since weeks sure to no private lobbies and suicidal ai behaviour...

After 12 restarts with gt3 cars at Imola I called it quit... Ai would always crash me out no matter what lol

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Have you tried it? Why the hell would someone force it to 720?

Forcing to 720p often can yield better performance from games on console PS3/PS4 ( more stable fps ), as I said, it may not be good alternative, there's trade off with graphic resolution being lowered.

Have I tried it ? Read my profile post on last Saturday, I locked the PS4 to 720p that time ( as the mate who runs the shop suggested ), barely noticeable fps difference to 1080p which I tried first for a lap or two, but I was alone, no AI. Maybe now with the update, it may make a difference when there are lots of AI cars ( more than 10 ) like someone said here. I was on small TV as well, 27" monitor on a game shop ( with a wheel though )

Yes, surely the game itself is rendered at 1080 so forcing the console to output 720 would surely mean the PS4 would have to downscale it which in itself would take some processing power? Don't know. But I've never heard doing a resolution drop in the hardware itself makes performance increases in a game.

Many games from PS3 era benefits from lowering/locking to 720p on games that can output 1080i/1080p ( slight increase in fps stability ). If you have a game that struggle to keep at locked frame rate at 30fps for example when running in 1080p mode ( not all games in PS4 are native 1080p BTW ), then locking to 720p may help. It's not really downscaling, it's like changing the display resolution when playing PC game. GT6 for example runs at native 1440x1080 ( if not mistaken ), and it can do 1080p ( upscaled ), at this res, the fps took a hit on some situation ( weather, many AI cars, cockpit view ), but locking to 720p boost fps stability noticeably.

Games also may have different post processing when running different res output ( 720p vs 1080p ).

 

[Mike_grpA]

I shelved the game

That must have hurt


....I'll get my coat.

 

[bleeder]

Forcing to 720p often can yield better performance from games on console PS3/PS4 ( more stable fps ), as I said, it may not be good alternative, there's trade off with graphic resolution being lowered.

Have I tried it ? Read my profile post on last Saturday, I locked the PS4 to 720p that time ( as the mate who runs the shop suggested ), barely noticeable fps difference to 1080p which I tried first for a lap or two, but I was alone, no AI. Maybe now with the update, it may make a difference when there are lots of AI cars ( more than 10 ) like someone said here. I was on small TV as well, 27" monitor on a game shop ( with a wheel though )



Many games from PS3 era benefits from lowering/locking to 720p on games that can output 1080i/1080p ( slight increase in fps stability ). If you have a game that struggle to keep at locked frame rate at 30fps for example when running in 1080p mode ( not all games in PS4 are native 1080p BTW ), then locking to 720p may help. It's not really downscaling, it's like changing the display resolution when playing PC game. GT6 for example runs at native 1440x1080 ( if not mistaken ), and it can do 1080p ( upscaled ), at this res, the fps took a hit on some situation ( weather, many AI cars, cockpit view ), but locking to 720p boost fps stability noticeably.

Games also may have different post processing when running different res output ( 720p vs 1080p ).

I'm not disputing whether or not you personally have seen differences but I would've thought if it was indeed a viable way to boost framerate in a PS4 game then, for example, Digital Foundry would include this analysis in their testing, but they don't ever. I can't think of a PS4 game that runs below 900p either and most are at 1080, unless the devs really want a locked 60fps. I'd rather see Kunos drop the resolution on their end to 900p if it meant the game could achieve closer to 60fps at all times, but this isn't exclusive to Kunos, of course. The powers that be would rather harp on about resolution than frames per second and I doubt that will ever change in the console market.

I'm willing to give a resolution change a go though so will try to run some tests later.

 

[Orayani]

I thinks it's very possible we'll be seeing the controls changing each patch to accomodate each car pack, with these complex cars like the Hypercars, the F1 cars, there's not enough buttons on the wheel/pad.....A potentially big problem......They need to get a keyboard working ideally on the console version........

I was so shocked when I looked at all the available controls on PCARS as well as what you can turn off/on for effects and what you can do to the hud. Including press to assign button. Then I started thinking, just imagine if that was in Assetto Corsa. Let alone the calibration setup page on PCARS.

I always jump in PCARS to set the conical cone. As you can see how far the pressure will go.

 

[killerjimbag]

Forcing to 720p often can yield better performance from games on console PS3/PS4 ( more stable fps ), as I said, it may not be good alternative, there's trade off with graphic resolution being lowered.

Have I tried it ? Read my profile post on last Saturday, I locked the PS4 to 720p that time ( as the mate who runs the shop suggested ), barely noticeable fps difference to 1080p which I tried first for a lap or two, but I was alone, no AI. Maybe now with the update, it may make a difference when there are lots of AI cars ( more than 10 ) like someone said here. I was on small TV as well, 27" monitor on a game shop ( with a wheel though )



Many games from PS3 era benefits from lowering/locking to 720p on games that can output 1080i/1080p ( slight increase in fps stability ). If you have a game that struggle to keep at locked frame rate at 30fps for example when running in 1080p mode ( not all games in PS4 are native 1080p BTW ), then locking to 720p may help. It's not really downscaling, it's like changing the display resolution when playing PC game. GT6 for example runs at native 1440x1080 ( if not mistaken ), and it can do 1080p ( upscaled ), at this res, the fps took a hit on some situation ( weather, many AI cars, cockpit view ), but locking to 720p boost fps stability noticeably.

Games also may have different post processing when running different res output ( 720p vs 1080p ).

We're not playing PS3 Era games! So you played at a game shop, for 3 hours with a wheel.You didn't like it.
Here's your post.
Managed to persuade my go to game shop to let me try PS4 and a game I have been meaning to drive with a wheel, not impressed, overrated.
So we're does it say you dropped to 720p used no AI,blah,blah.
Pretty much sums up most of your posts about this game doesn't it?
Sounds like your 3 hours of game play of PCARS doesn't it?
Not to many game shops around my city,that hook up a wheel,a proper rig and let someone play a game for 3 hours.

 

[bleeder]

Can someone on ps4 confirm this?

I shelved the game since weeks sure to no private lobbies and suicidal ai behaviour...

After 12 restarts with gt3 cars at Imola I called it quit... Ai would always crash me out no matter what lol

Well I have a PS4

Trust me, it's so much better now. I'm hardly ever restarting due to the AI clipping me. I thought with the proximity indicator gone it'd spell disaster but I actually don't really miss them now. Sure, there are times where you can hear a car but not see it in any mirror, but one must trust their instincts, be mindful of their surroundings etc...

They really seem to have sorted the race starts out. Classic tracks that would have troublesome starts like the 2 I mentioned as well as Mugello's first few corners are now pretty safe. Not saying it'll never happen again, but hey, that's racing!

Perhaps someone else will confirm this to you also.

 

[killerjimbag]

Well I have a PS4

Trust me, it's so much better now. I'm hardly ever restarting due to the AI clipping me. I thought with the proximity indicator gone it'd spell disaster but I actually don't really miss them now. Sure, there are times where you can hear a car but not see it in any mirror, but one must trust their instincts, be mindful of their surroundings etc...

They really seem to have sorted the race starts out. Classic tracks that would have troublesome starts like the 2 I mentioned as well as Mugello's first few corners are now pretty safe. Not saying it'll never happen again, but hey, that's racing!

Perhaps someone else will confirm this to you also.

I think it's better too. No problems here.

 

[Nielsen]

Well, after downloading the patch and getting the Porsche pack, the first thing I did was... try the Alfa GTA.
And the news are good: it's finally possible to drive this car without the sound glitches.

Not sure what's happening with the Panamera from my previous post, but the cars I briefly tested all were OK. Whatever's happening, the good news is that the problematic cars seem to be the exception right now.

@Nielsen I'd be interested to know which cars you found to have the glitch as well. Maybe we could start taking note and make a small list.

I drove the Mazda RX-7 on Brands Hatch earlier today and the sound glitches were very noticeable for me. In fact, it's more noticeable than ever now because the problem used to be most noticeable when looking left and right. Then I took the same RX-7 to Silverstone 1967 and the problem was gone. Both times I drove using the full cockpit view as that's the only view causing the problem for me. The fact that the same car can circumvent the bug by choosing a different track, assuming that's the reason, makes the whole thing rather complicated. I'll gladly contribute to a list. I remember these having the issue after the update.

BMW M4 at Imola
Nissan GT-R Nismo at Brands Hatch
Mazda RX-7 at Brands Hatch
Porsche Panamera at Nordschleife

You can try some of these combinations and see how it goes.

I also remember the Alfa GTA being one of the culprits, so I also drove it earlier today. No sound issues driving it on Silverstone 1967. I'll try driving it on Brands Hatch to see if I get the same results you did.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

We're not playing PS3 Era games! So you played at a game shop, for 3 hours with a wheel.You didn't like it.
Here's your post.
Managed to persuade my go to game shop to let me try PS4 and a game I have been meaning to drive with a wheel, not impressed, overrated.
So we're does it say you dropped to 720p used no AI,blah,blah.
Pretty much sums up most of your posts about this game doesn't it?
Sounds like your 3 hours of game play of PCARS doesn't it?

Classy, so what is exactly your problem with me ? If I said I was impressed, and praising the game I played for mere 3 hours, you would still act the same ?
I couldn't wrote that long on status post.
I didn't say I didn't like it, I said it didn't impressed like I hoped to ( with lots of people praising it, I wanted more ), thus overrated, I was being blunt on what I feel about the driving. This is why I wrote it there, some people just keep bugging me I refrain from writing detailed impression, precisely because of your kind of response.

 

[VBR]

Had a nice drive online with @WarriusZero yesterday, in the Lotus Exige 240R at The Nord Tourist; thanks mate. I just realised that the last time I was online in a racing game was Feb 2015 in GT6! The whole P BUGS mess combined with the vile $ony wheel licensing nonsense almost robbed me of my hobby (I was seriously thinking of selling all my gear & finding something else to do). But thanks to Kunos & Assetto Corsa which has started to restore my faith in sim racing. I'm having fun just driving again.

 

[killerjimbag]

Classy, so what is exactly your problem with me ? If I said I was impressed, and praising the game I played for mere 3 hours, you would still act the same ?
I couldn't wrote that long on status post.
I didn't say I didn't like it, I said it didn't impressed like I hoped to ( with lots of people praising it, I wanted more ), thus overrated, I was being blunt on what I feel about the driving. This is why I wrote it there, some people just keep bugging me I refrain from writing detailed impression, precisely because of your kind of response.

I'm not bugging anyone. You post stuff about games with 3 to 6 hours of game time. What kind of wheel were you using? Were you in a rig, or a table and chair? So your 3 hours session was with no AI etc. That's your basis on how you evaluate a game? Very impressive indeed.
The only game your impressed with is GT6. You never post how bad that game is! Why,because you actually own it and have a garage?
I could write a full essay on how terrible GT6 is. I don't go on the GT6 page and post how bad this and that is. I actually own the game and system too.
You have never been impressed with PCARS, your not impressed with AC.
The only games you seem impressed with,are the ones you own. Enjoy your gaming!
Actually I agreed with TT92 in case you missed that.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

I'm not bugging anyone. You post stuff about games with 3 to 6 hours of game time. What kind of wheel were you using? Were you in a rig, or a table and chair? So your 3 hours session was with no AI etc. That's your basis on how you evaluate a game? Very impressive indeed.
The only game your impressed with is GT6. You never post how bad that game is! Why,because you actually own it and have a garage?
I could write a full essay on how terrible GT6 is. I don't go on the GT6 page and post how bad this and that is. I actually own the game and system too.
You have never been impressed with PCARS, your not impressed with AC.
The only games you seem impressed with,are the ones you own. Enjoy your gaming!
Actually I agreed with TT92 in case you missed that.

Stay classy 👍

 

[killerjimbag]

Stay classy 👍

Oh, I can stay classy. I'm going to tune some cars on AC now. I'll keep you updated on my future garage. Gotta send Praiano a quick message. He has AC too.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Forcing to 720p often can yield better performance from games on console PS3/PS4 ( more stable fps ), as I said, it may not be good alternative, there's trade off with graphic resolution being lowered.

Have I tried it ? Read my profile post on last Saturday, I locked the PS4 to 720p that time ( as the mate who runs the shop suggested ), barely noticeable fps difference to 1080p which I tried first for a lap or two, but I was alone, no AI. Maybe now with the update, it may make a difference when there are lots of AI cars ( more than 10 ) like someone said here. I was on small TV as well, 27" monitor on a game shop ( with a wheel though )



Many games from PS3 era benefits from lowering/locking to 720p on games that can output 1080i/1080p ( slight increase in fps stability ). If you have a game that struggle to keep at locked frame rate at 30fps for example when running in 1080p mode ( not all games in PS4 are native 1080p BTW ), then locking to 720p may help. It's not really downscaling, it's like changing the display resolution when playing PC game. GT6 for example runs at native 1440x1080 ( if not mistaken ), and it can do 1080p ( upscaled ), at this res, the fps took a hit on some situation ( weather, many AI cars, cockpit view ), but locking to 720p boost fps stability noticeably.

Games also may have different post processing when running different res output ( 720p vs 1080p ).

Can you give us some examples of games you've reduced to 720p on your PS4 and it worked to help framerates?

Classy, so what is exactly your problem with me ? If I said I was impressed, and praising the game I played for mere 3 hours, you would still act the same ?
I couldn't wrote that long on status post.
I didn't say I didn't like it, I said it didn't impressed like I hoped to ( with lots of people praising it, I wanted more ), thus overrated, I was being blunt on what I feel about the driving. This is why I wrote it there, some people just keep bugging me I refrain from writing detailed impression, precisely because of your kind of response.

I think you don't post specifics because you don't want to answer any specific questions about the equipment setup or the game itself. Saying you weren't impressed by the wheel or the game without mentioning which game or wheel or setup or environment you played in renders your post pretty meaningless doesn't it?

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Oh, I can stay classy. I'm going to tune some cars on AC now. I'll keep you updated on my future garage. Gotta send Praiano a quick message. He has AC too.

Go for it and good luck 👍

Can you give us some examples of games you've reduced to 720p on your PS4 and it worked to help framerates?
I think you don't post specifics because you don't want to answer any specific questions about the equipment setup or the game itself. Saying you weren't impressed by the wheel or the game without mentioning which game or wheel or setup or environment you played in renders your post pretty meaningless doesn't it?

Not going to bother with you, ever.

 

[killerjimbag]

Can you give us some examples of games you've reduced to 720p on your PS4 and it worked to help framerates?
I think you don't post specifics because you don't want to answer any specific questions about the equipment setup or the game itself. Saying you weren't impressed by the wheel or the game without mentioning which game or wheel or setup or environment you played in renders your post pretty meaningless doesn't it?

It's depends if you read between the lines.
Go look at his profile post's. Pretend Racetards, seems to be a favourite site for game reviews.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Not going to bother with you, ever.

I'll take that as, "I don't have a PS4 and I'm just speculating as to whether something works or not"

It's depends if you read between the lines.
Go look at his profile post's. Pretend Racetards, seems to be a favourite site for game reviews.

True. Anyone that quotes or links to PRC as a "source" of anything other than bitterness and trolling, really has no credibility.

 

[killerjimbag]

Go for it and good luck 👍



Not going to bother with you, ever.

Thanks,Praiano and Hammi were the best tuners on GT5 and 6.

 

[lancia delta hf]

Can someone on ps4 confirm this?

I shelved the game since weeks sure to no private lobbies and suicidal ai behaviour...

After 12 restarts with gt3 cars at Imola I called it quit... Ai would always crash me out no matter what lol

I had a few races with the KTM at Imola last night just to test the control, and the first thing I noticed by the time I got to the chicane was the AI, it gets crammed at that section and they were avoiding me and slowing down when I pulled out in front of them. Haven't tested AI extensively but the 4 races I had I was not hit once by AI. That simply never happened before on that combo.

 

[bleeder]

Am I right in thinking the new physics/tyre model has slowed cars down a bit? I'm a good 2-3 seconds off my old lap times now.

 

[Donnced]

And go on....men..This game is becoming a mess...

In the update notes they said "translation corrections..."

Well... the guy that did the "corrections" in Spanish needs to go back to high-school.

In car settings, before 1.09 you could see the words "blistering" and "graining"
Now they chanced both to "quemado" what in English means "burned"...

So bad translation and now i dont now if I'm suffering blistering or graining... cause the two says "burned"

My patience with this game becomes really "burned"

 

[BrandonW77]

Am I right in thinking the new physics/tyre model has slowed cars down a bit? I'm a good 2-3 seconds off my old lap times now.

On the PC lap times increased by about 2 seconds on cars with V10 tires, so it's probable the same is the case on consoles. I'm presuming not all of your cars are on V10s yet so it will probably vary from car to car. I believe all the Porsches are on V10, all the GT3 and GT2/GTE cars are on V10, as well as a few others that I can't recall at the moment.