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Nah, I don't, just pay attention when he talks about tracks as that is something I have absolutely no idea about at all.You seems to know lilski well, that would be great if he could add the chicane (the esses) on his Watkins Glen track, there is only this chicane missing to get the F1 1975/1985 layout, i do not think that layout exist at the moment.
He seems to be extremely busy with always at least a handful of track projects of his own and helping out others on his hands. I doubt he would find the time but if he does, you could drop a nice request in the tracks discussion thread on RD. If it is something he would be able to do with ease maybe that could give the community another historic layout ;-)
It seems to me that talking about disrespect for the studio because of copying the track or the car relative to the two modding platforms is not entirely correct. Both simulators develop through modding, and they lose nothing from this, but gain a lot. For example, when a dlc with Nordschleife came out for AC, it was transferred to Rfactor 2 and this gave a huge plus to Rf2. This is how the world of mod simulators works - through exchange, they keep the audience. It benefits everyone.
I bought rfactor2 and dlc. But I do not spend as much time in rf2 as I spend in the AC. I see nothing wrong with being able to ride on the tracks that I paid in both simulators.
As for the transfer of the track from rf2 to the AC. I do not think that this is tantamount to building a track from scratch. If the roadway is too rough for AC, it is not so difficult to fix, there are simple modifiers for this.
The difficulty lies elsewhere - the latest DLCs, such as the Nordschleife, Lemans, Sebring, Monaco, have a different format than the old tracks, which were easy to open in 3Dsimed.
I tried to do this and nothing came of it...
We have the exact laserscan version of Leman (FM7) and Nordschleife (official DLC) in AC. Sebring do not know for sure, is there no conversion from FM7? In any case, there is an opportunity to do this without resorting to Rf2. But the Monaco laserscan is only in RF2, and if it could be converted into AC- it would be a holiday!
But it seems the developers took care of this, and protected the new content. They can be understood, but very sad.
I think we are pretty much on the same page there.
What I meant was that Studio123 is a very small team on a tiny budget and one of the reasons why their Sebring and LE Mans track DLCs are comparatively on teh pricey side (as far as some people's complaints go) is that the costs to produce these monumental track projects is just very high and combined with likely lower sales compared to what iRacing or even AC users turn over Studio123 is a bind.
They really need that money, hence a "free" conversion of that track available else were will inevitable invite free loaders. Not everyone I am afraid operates on the honor system (I make it a point to purchase each racing sim / game I use content from to make sure that the original content creators do see their monetization for the work they have done).
Re. rF2 to AC track conversions - I really do not know the technicalities here but just remember well this topic being talked about with one of the master AC track builders (cant remember if it was Kevin or David) and the comment indeed was that the reason for a lack of many high quality track conversions from the ISI engine to AC is indeed the need for a complete rebuild of the physics road mesh, taking up a very large chunk of what a scratch made track built would be.
Conversions such as the vintage Spa track from rF2 show exactly this characteristic (MUCH too bumpy sensation when converted from rF2 to AC without very laborious road mesh rebuild).
I do vaguely remember that there was talk of a conversion in the making of a FM7 laser scanned Sebring to AC some time ago (that too being VERY laborious a process).
I think it was discussed here in the thread maybe half a year ago?