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Aston Martin DB10 for new Bond film
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Yeah, it clearly takes a better line through the corner while the Aston is forced to correct itself.
Also, the film crew is stationed on the right-hand side of the road where the Aston slows.
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I thought the Aston is just scripted to powerslide around the corner while the Jag just grips the corner
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It is, and part of that is the way the cars are being driven - I believe British rally champion Mark Higgins is Daniel Craig's stunt driver - but part of it is the way the scene is being shot. All of this is being filmed from a static camera, but will no doubt be re-shot with the Ultimate Arm. This will give multiple takes from multiple angles, which can then be edited together. The final product will no doubt be very exciting, but the actual process of filming it is a painstaking process. It's very rare that you can film in a continuous take - you'll get the odd extended tracking shot; Quentin Tarantino does it a lot - but for the most part, it's done in tiny little excerpts. Birdman (Or The Unexpected Virtue Of Ignorance), which won Best Picture and Best Director this year tried it and faced huge technical challenges to pull it off, with entire scenes being written around the camera. Filming a car chase that way would be impossible; for one, rapid cuts add to the tension and ambience whereas extended shots tend to slow the tempo down. And second, The French Connection tried it in the 1970s, and while they created a great scene, they also caused two accidents with civilians.
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Its a hypercar ? I thought it was a supercar.
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It's actually been converted over to a conventional combustion engine. A lot of the technology that was put into the prototype was removed for filming, mostly because it stops and starts a lot and they have a very tight shooting schedule. If anything went wrong with the hybrid system which required specialist attention, it could easily disrupt the rest of production.
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Oh ok, so they are of very similar statistics then?
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to be honest, that DB10 doesn't look particularly interesting. It isn't even striking. The Virage, the plainest-looking Aston Martin currently in production, looks way better than that. And the headlamps... they look like they've been taken from a 1st-gen Mazda RX-8. I agree with daan, they went a bit lazy with the design here.
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I have no idea. Both cars are bespoke for filming. Aston Martin might have published some figures on the DB10, but I haven't seen them. And there's certainly nothing on the C-X75 used for the film. Given the output on the original C-X75, I imagine that they might have sought some degree of parity with the DB10, but at the same time, the whole chase sequence will be scripted. The cars might be given a chance to stretch their legs at times - there's footage of a camera boat keeping pace with the DB10 as it races along the Tiber River - but like I said, they film bits and pieces. When the DB10 fishtails around the corner, both cars will drive down the road to build up speed, take the corner and then stop. Whatever happens either side of that segment will be filmed separately. At most, they'll reshoot the scene with minor differences - they might have the C-X75 closer to the DB10 and force the C-X75 to back off when the DB10 fishtails, and then they might shoot it so that the DB10 has a head start, allowing the C-X75 to catch up as it fishtails - but there will never be a true head-to-head showdown the way that we might expect in a road test, because everything is tightly controlled by the script and regulated by the stunt unit.
But don't worry - the action sequences are being co-ordinated by Chris Colbourd, who is one of the best in the industry. He's a regular in the Bond franchise, and is also the guy Christopher Nolan challenged to flip a semi-trailer in The Dark Knight, hijack a plane mid-flight in The Dark Knight Rises, and build a corridor that could spin independently on three different axis in Inception, and all without using special effects. So the chase should be exciting.
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Nice, didnt know that. I supposed the cars should have similar power/engine since they didnt use the hybrid system in the Jag.
I wonder though, the Jag that they used for filming, is it the real CX75 prototype minus the hybrid or is it just some kit cars that the Jaguar provided ?
I wonder though, the Jag that they used for filming, is it the real CX75 prototype minus the hybrid or is it just some kit cars that the Jaguar provided ?
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I imagine that they would be kit cars for two reasons:
First, the original prototype has some pretty complex systems under its skin. I can't imagine that converting it over to petrol power would be an easy undertaking.
Second, the film production would need several cars. There are ten DB10s in all, so I imagine they have a similar number of C-X75s. I have seen at least three; one that is unaltered, one with a film rig, and one with a film rig and camera pod. Plus, they would need back-ups in case one had mechanical problems. I don't know how many prototypes Jaguar built in the first place, but I doubt that they would have had enough.
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So its probably a kit car the Jaguar provides ?
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It appears that filming of the chase sequence has largely wrapped. Photos from the James Bond Brasil website show them being packed up. Production as a whole will stay in Rome for another three weeks or so, before moving on to Mexico City and finishing up in Morocco in June, with ongoing work at Pinewood Studios. So it appears that the DB10's (and, I expect the C-X75's) work is largely done.
EDIT: Having said that, the second unit might still capture some footage for external footage, like the DB5 driving to Scotland in Skyfall, and it may be used at Pinewood (if it hasn't been used there already), but that will be a closed set. It's not expected to appear in Mexico or Morocco.
EDIT: Having said that, the second unit might still capture some footage for external footage, like the DB5 driving to Scotland in Skyfall, and it may be used at Pinewood (if it hasn't been used there already), but that will be a closed set. It's not expected to appear in Mexico or Morocco.
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Now that EON have gone for a chase between GT cars in a city, I'm hoping Bond 25 will take it a step further and stick Daniel Craig in a Formula 1 car. Pierce Brosnan came close to driving a Jordan around Silverstone in Tomorrow Never Dies, but Peugeot said no. And perhaps wisely - the idea of Bond in a modern Formula 1 car is ridiculous. But I could see him in a classic Formula 1 car. Bond plays golf against Auric Goldfinger in Goldfinger and EON imitated the idea with a sword fight in Die Another Day. So I could see a villain challenging Bond to a one-lap showdown in a classic Formula 1 car at Goodwood, though I think I would prefer Silverstone, Donington or Brands Hatch.
So, the McLaren M14 as the next Bond car?
So, the McLaren M14 as the next Bond car?
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Yeah, I'm thinking a Lotus 72 vs. a Ferrari 312 or a McLaren M14 (or any combination thereof) for a lap of Silverstone in a Goldfinger-style showdown.
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Looks like I was wrong - filming has still been taking place in Rome; there was just a temporary lull in production:
http://m.imgur.com/a/31t93
http://m.imgur.com/a/31t93
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Big spoiler if true:
It looks like the DB10 won't be surviving after all - it seems that when Bond is unable to outrun Hinx in the Jaguar, he deliberately crashes into the Tiber, using an ejector seat to throw himself clear and parachuting onto the Ponte Sisto bridge.
And from the sounds of things, the DB10 also has a few other gadgets on-board, including a flamethrower.
And from the sounds of things, the DB10 also has a few other gadgets on-board, including a flamethrower.
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How do you know these things @prisonermonkeys ?
i knew it, i knew the car won't survive and have gadgets. Q is not gonna like this lol.
Which means the car would make appearance only in Rome ?
Which means the car would make appearance only in Rome ?
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@GTboyz - GTP isn't the only forum that I follow. I'm a big James Bond fan, and follow production fairly closely, though I do try to avoid spoilers where I can. If you're interested, CommanderBond.net usually has a lot of material, but the forum is poorly run and the members are cliquey. They don't look kindly on outsiders, and expressing opinions that are out of step with community opinions (Lazenby good, Brosnan bad, all fan art is amazing - even when it isn't) causes trouble. But if you're willing to take the plunge and browse as a guest, you can find great stuff. Just make sure you hold your nose lest you catch a whiff of the repugnant attitudes.
Also, the first teaser trailer drops on 28 March. But the DB10 is unlikely to feature as the footage has only just been recorded. Most of the promotional material so far has emphasised the 1960s vibe and Mendes' LALD influences, so I would expect it to focus on Austria.
Also, the first teaser trailer drops on 28 March. But the DB10 is unlikely to feature as the footage has only just been recorded. Most of the promotional material so far has emphasised the 1960s vibe and Mendes' LALD influences, so I would expect it to focus on Austria.
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