Az's BMW M3 - Found out only 113 in my Paint/Interior, aww yeah

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What, so now you have a Celica rusting away (or did you get rid of it?), a Civic that is broken, an MR-S that you have broken before, and a new M3. I feel sorry for what's going to happen to it :P

Just kidding, but how on earth do you get around to spend so much time on all of these three awesome cars? Don't you have to, like, study? :lol: Congrats on the purchase though, I'm completely honest when I say I'm never going to drive a BMW myself, but that's a sweet ride :cheers:
 
Not a huge fan of the colour myself...

WUT?

No. Purple is epic. It always has been, and always will be. Having owned a purple car, its my color of choice when available.

Nevertheless...

Totally awesome purchase. Too bad it isn't a sedan, they are my favorite, but still far beyond anything I've had, and certainly a radically different beast compared to the MR-S and the Si. Still, head explosions may occur. The thought of you in a German car, liking it, much less purchasing it... Wow.
 
I buy an Audi... Azure buys a BMW...

Sure signs the end of the world is nigh.





Did you get a good look at the subframe, rear shock and toe link mounts on the M3?


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^^ Booyaaaa!!!

:lol:


Great purchase, buddy. 👍

BTW, does the US spec have TCS? If not (like the EU version) watch your right foot, especially in the wet.
A friend of mine has one (though the 320hp version of course) and it took him quite some time to get used to drive it in the wet, the gas pedal can sometimes be a bit harsh.
 
I buy an Audi... Azure buys a BMW...

Sure signs the end of the world is nigh.





Did you get a good look at the subframe, rear shock and toe link mounts on the M3?


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Pah, nothing a bit of sheetmetal and a welder can't fix!
 
Forgot to mention...

Love the colour. That dark tone of purple looks great on that design.
And are those 18" wheels?... Are they stock or rep?
 
BTW, does the US spec have TCS? If not (like the EU version) watch your right foot, especially in the wet.
A friend of mine has one (though the 320hp version of course) and it took him quite some time to get used to drive it in the wet, the gas pedal can sometimes be a bit harsh.

Traction control was introduced for the 1996 model year. So his '95 does not have it. Mine didn't.

Wet grip in a US spec car is not generally an issue, except for the OE Michelin Pilot MXX3s, which were practically cut slicks and notoriously twitchy in the wet.

But on a contemporary tire, you really need to be driving like monkey to get it out of sorts.

Pah, nothing a bit of sheetmetal and a welder can't fix!

...if you are willing (and able) to do the work yourself, yes. TMS makes a nice reinforcement kit for the E36.


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Traction control was introduced for the 1996 model year. So his '95 does not have it. Mine didn't.

Wet grip in a US spec car is not generally an issue, except for the OE Michelin Pilot MXX3s, which were practically cut slicks and notoriously twitchy in the wet.

But on a contemporary tire, you really need to be driving like monkey to get it out of sorts.

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Introduced in 1996 in the US, that's what I was referring to.
My friend's is a '98 and doesn't have it.

I have to agree with the tire bit, though main problem here is that most urban roads (i'd say easily about 80/90% of them) have crappy tarmac, made of the cheapest materials, meaning that it barely grips when new, and after a year it's basically polished.
Seriously, (I can take a pic to show this) in broad day light, and no rain, you can see reflections everywhere on the road. For instance, the colour of the car preceding you, and if he has anything chrome, it'll reflect off the road.

Of course, on decent roads lack of TCS isn't a serious problem even when wet. 👍
 
I buy an Audi... Azure buys a BMW...

Sure signs the end of the world is nigh.

Its been an odd year for stuff like that, really. The thoughts I've been having about Fords lately are becoming troublesome.
 
I did not get a good look over the rear subframe, but three of us test drove it. The two friends that came with and drove me down both have '99 M3s (you can see one's Estoril Blue), and we all agreed the car felt solid, sounded good, tracked straight, and so forth. Though it will need new shocks soon, which I am debating on getting H&R Springs with Konis, or just Konis and enjoying a car with some form of stock ride height.

The interior is in pretty good shape, with the expected wear on the driver's seat. No tears that I've found anywhere. Wheels are OEM DS1s, so 17 inches. Paint on the car is solid aside from a few small rock chips in the front and a small scratch by the rear trunk - the paint on the MR-S is already in worse shape from what I can tell (thanks autocross and grippy tires). All the buttons and interior lights seem to work, including the 18 button OBC (which is amazing, from what I've read), though there is the infamous steering wheel noise.

Things on the car that should be address soon.
  • Shocks
  • Engine and transmission mounts (last thing I need to do is money shift the transmission)
  • Fog light bulbs.
  • A new head unit - there is a Sony now, and I was very close to just tearing the out and tossing it out the window. Absolute rubbish. And horribly distracting at night.
  • Refinish the Vadars.
  • Passenger side window regulator is going out.
  • Valve retainers (yay S50 goodness)
  • Front tower bracing.
  • Rear subframe brace.
  • Suspension bushings all around.
  • Flush the power steering fluid.

Cosmetic things I plan to do to make the car look a bit better -
  • Amber Corner lights all around.
  • Euro clear lights up front.
  • BBS (or rep) wheels all around.
  • LTW Wing?

If you are wondering, the car has 140,000 miles and I paid a bit under 6 grand for it. I wasn't planning on paying the full asking price but the interior was in much better shape than the pictures indicated and it actually has some remotely decent tires on it.

Driving back from Portland to eastern Washington, we took a small segment of the old highay. Very much a twisty, 10-25 MPH type of road in places. I'd already gotten to drive a couple of E36 M3s, but not on anything this twisty. Handling is fairly solid and amazingly precise, and just driving the car fully made me understand why people love these cars so much. I will say it isn't quite as tossable as the MR-S and the turn in isn't as aggressive, but it is more composed on various surfaces and above 90 MPH.

It is rather interesting how each of the three M3's in our circle, despite all being E36s, feel completely different. The Estoril Blue has an exhaust and thus has more of its power up high, while the Titinum Silver (a '99) one has a stock setup and thus more torque down low. Mine, thanks to the slightly smaller engine, produces more power up high and lacks the low end torque, which with the different final drive, makes for a very different experience flooring it. Both the '99s also have springs and such, so they are a bit tighter feeling.

As for the MR-S and Civic, they are both for sale. Debating if I really want to try to keep one, or just sell them and clean up the M3 and just use that till I graduate and get a solid job. Yes, the M3 has shifted my priorities that much. The Celica is still here and will be made into a reasonable running state for winter and delivery duties. Honestly, I should have gone with the M3 suggestions over a year ago when I was looking at cars and ended up with the MR-S. Yes, I just said that. Japanese loving, MR fan, light weight snob Cody just has been converted to a German engineering, FR, autobahn rocket fan.
 
It's the GEEEEEEZE creeping in. In 5 years, you'll want an old man snoozemobile from VAG. :P

Sounds like you have a pretty good plan for the M.

Since you're bracing the chassis, let me recommend the factory x-brace. Your M3 buddies will know exactly what I'm talking about. It might even already be on the car, since it was the du rigeur upgrade for serious enthusiasts.

And since you're dropping the struts anyway, may as well consider some camber plates or at least a crash bolt and make some negative camber up front.

...Geh... listen to me. It's like I'm living vicariously though someone else's E36 purchase. :rolleyes:


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Spaced on the X-Brace. It is a part of the plan. Still, I am enjoying the car greatly and the extremely well thought out nature of it. The air vent that you can adjust separately from the other climate controls is amazing... like a breath of fresh air constantly on your face.

I am the third owner of the car as well, the first 70k miles being on a corporate lease of some sort. Car spent all but the last 2 or 3 years in California as well, so rust and other common issues up north are not a problem.

Later this week there will likely be a photo shoot for the 3 E36 M3s, and I'll get more detailed pictures up tomorrow.

And, quick thoughts on this - I want to black the car out, tint, grills, generally things. The biggest thing I am unsure on though is if I should black out the OEM DS1 wheels, or leave them their current finish and just order different wheels up when I get the funds.

Also, on the color, since I've gotten questions on it in person now - yes, I wanted the Daytona Violet. The only other colors up for serious consideration from the '95 model year were Avus Blue and Cosmos Black. Black interior was a must as well, since I hate how much dirt and grime the Dove and other light interiors show.
 
Blacked out OEMs are always sort of seemed a little cheapskate to me. I say gather the funds for something truly special. Along with that, I'm one of those armchair purists that thinks blacking out the kidney outlines is sacrilege. They're meant to be chrome just as much as there're meant to be 2 of them.

Oh, PS, big ups on the car. I am very jealous.
 
I understand the bit on the wheels. I really don't want to end up looking like a bro with a WRX that rattle canned his wheels up.

As for the kidney grills... the car isn't black and there is not chrome anywhere else on the damn thing, so the chromed up kidneys just feel kind of out of place to me.
 
bbs lm eww(on that car anyway).

Negative, Houston.






P.S.: The drop is too extreme for my tastes, but the wheels are pure sex.



@Azure: Also, I have a spare set of 17" CSL replicas with V700s mounted on them if you're interested. The set has one event on them.

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^^ Those aren't the same wheels.

BBS LM won't look as good unless you're going for at least 18's. Then they look great on the E36.

Since you don't have the window trim in chrome, I agree with the blacking out of the grilles. I've done that to mine (although it's an E46 the principle is the same and it applies) and everyone thinks it looks heaps better now.
Even people from work that don't know jack about cars asked me about it (if I had painted them or bought some black one) and say it's looking a lot better now.

I wouldn't paint those OEM wheels. Some of them can pull it off, but definitely not those.
If you're really interested, you should try a little PS in them to see how they would turn out, but most likely it wouldn't look right.
Best bet would be hyperblack, imo.

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Not too aggressive, but really stylish and not seen often.
 
Those are BBS RS wheels, what SweetshopUnion was talking about in his post.
I know those are RS's, but SweetshopUnion mentioned the LM's.
I personally don't like seeing the RS's on the E36 as much Ias I like the LM's.
But as said, it's all down to personal taste.

Check the quote that starts M-Spec's post. 👍
 
I know those are RS's, but SweetshopUnion mentioned the LM's.

Check the quote that starts M-Spec's post. 👍
SweetshopUnion posted the yellow one on RS's, saying "Yeah (the BBS LM look good), but: (the BBS RS look better in his opinion.)

Nobody screwed up is what I'm getting at.
 
Yes, leave the stock wheels and get a second set. Having a second of everything is awesome. As a matter of fact I have two intakes for my car--and I've actually had to use the second one before to loan to a buddy when his aluminum one's mount broke.

Speaking of seconds, if you can afford it keep two cars. Make sure at least one of them is dead reliable, so not the Civic. Too bad about the transmission. Now you're gonna be stuck a McStrut weenie for the rest of your life!
 
CLS Reps are differently in my interest.

As for keeping two cars, I'd like to keep the MR-S as an autocross toy, but it would be easier to sell than Civic for its value and would put quite a bit of money back in my pocket (though I'd still be out a lot as well in the end). It really just comes down to how much I make this summer. As for the M3, if I do proper preventive maintenance, it should be bullet proof.
 
You mean CSL. And yeah, I just posted that pic to illustrate the hyperblack thing.

But I'd keep those OEM as they are and would try to find a good deal on some (17" or 18", depending on the roads there and the use you'll give the car) good lightweight wheels.
 
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