Bertone Designer Kept Working on Vision GT Car After Company's Bankruptcy

[ss3]

This is Bertone ...... not this ugly grasshopper..

The Lancia and lambo are both amazing but they also resemble greasshoppers. A little more than most cars at least lol

 

[Dopplegagger]

Actually, there were 2 manufacturers who pulled out of the VGT program: Bertone and Alfa Romeo.

But anyway, it's great to see the original designer still has the project in his mind. The VGT program is dragging on longer and longer, so it's not impossible to think that in the future if conditions change we *might* still see it in the game. Be it GT7/8 or even further than that.

I prefer the original design though. Much more feasible as a car:

OK, this looks like a Reaper from Mass Effect. I'm interested to see more, but the top down sketch here, has me seeing children in ventilation ducts, and hearing a loud buzzing; all while having the urge to punch Reporters and head-butt Krogans.

 

[KinLM]

Very striking design and lots of dedication. Everybody who is saying that they’d rather have a Miura in the game than this “grasshopper” needs to keep in mind that the Miura, Countach Stratos etc. and other cars all looked a bit odd compared to other cars of their period.

I would love to somehow try and push for this car to be included in the game. Even if it’s under a different badging. We have all the normal cars in the world. Bertone never was okay with being normal. Maybe that’s why they aren’t still around. But I don’t see how it would hurt to justify all the hard work.

 

[Epic B]

Very striking design and lots of dedication. Everybody who is saying that they’d rather have a Miura in the game than this “grasshopper” needs to keep in mind that the Miura, Countach Stratos etc. and other cars all looked a bit odd compared to other cars of their period.

I would love to somehow try and push for this car to be included in the game. Even if it’s under a different badging. We have all the normal cars in the world. Bertone never was okay with being normal. Maybe that’s why they aren’t still around. But I don’t see how it would hurt to justify all the hard work.

Whether or not it would be officially under the Bertone name, this VGT doesn't deserve to go to waste. It's clear at least one person gives a damn about the car whether Bertone exists or not.

 

[TonyJZX]

There's always been odd cars right? The Nike ONe Car? I feel that they may as well embrace the ridiculous and show us a Lewis Hamilton car and a TAG Heuer car as well.

This Bertone car... I think whoever owns the Bertone IP assets will have to release the rights of this to PD so they can go ahead with it. And is it worth the effort?

 

[Kovu]

To be honest... this would just be another useless car in GT. Actually, I think most of the VGT and other concept cars even ruin GR.1 and Gr. 3 in a way of having fictional races with fictional car specs. This may work in an arcade racer, but kind of disables the simulation aspect of a "racing simulator" (...with an FIA sanctioned Sport mode).

I'd prefer PD invests time and money in real world cars - because that's what I want to drive. I don't want to drive what could be but will likely never be.

 

[KinLM]

To be honest... this would just be another useless car in GT. Actually, I think most of the VGT and other concept cars even ruin GR.1 and Gr. 3 in a way of having fictional races with fictional car specs. This may work in an arcade racer, but kind of disables the simulation aspect of a "racing simulator" (...with an FIA sanctioned Sport mode).

I'd prefer PD invests time and money in real world cars - because that's what I want to drive. I don't want to drive what could be but will likely never be.

And you don’t have to. There’s hundreds of normal cars in the game. For any VGT event, there’s some VGT cars that are much closer to reality that you can drive.

As for “likely never will be”, well, why don’t you have a look at what Audi did with theirs. Or Bugatti. Now these aren’t as radical as the Bertone or Chapparral, but like I said, you don’t have to drive them.

Let the rest of us have some fun.

 

[Kovu]

And you don’t have to. There’s hundreds of normal cars in the game. For any VGT event, there’s some VGT cars that are much closer to reality that you can drive.

As for “likely never will be”, well, why don’t you have a look at what Audi did with theirs. Or Bugatti. Now these aren’t as radical as the Bertone or Chapparral, but like I said, you don’t have to drive them.

Let the rest of us have some fun.

Which is why I say 'most VGT' cars. There is some of them with real world counter parts... but still: they are and will always be 'concept cars'... no production cars, nor real race cars.

I don't really like them, but can accept they are part of the game as existing cars.

 

[R5]

Lewis Hamilton car

Well I suppose we've had fan cars, now we can have Best Fan cars.

 

[inri]

This thing is coal powered and you have to open the windows when you drive it or you die of carbon monoxide poisoning

 

[sparkytooth]

Would've been a neat addition. Even amongst the VGT cars it looks so different to anything I've ever seen, even amongst racing games full stop.

 

[Just The Stig]

...That's a trike...Sort of.

Nope. There’s two wheels up front, like the DeltaWing, although they are much closer together.

Actually, the original design featured 3 wheels in the back:

The updated one removed the 3rd wheel from the back.

Link to original reveal thread: https://www.gtplanet.net/bertone-vision-gt-concept-revealed-in-new-renderings/

 

[John G]

They needn't have bothered. Who wants a trike with a single wheel at the front? Spiritual successor of the reliant robin.

Looks like it was designed by a 18 year old who likes daft punk a bit too much.

Maybe crap like that is why they went bankrupt

 

[TonyJZX]

The vast majority of VGTs are useless in competiton given that Gr.X tens to favour cars at the 1,000hp 1,000kg end of things.

So that Mini VGT w/ 400hp? useless... anything that deviates much from those mid engined hypercars tends to be curios.

 

[Tornado]

And you don’t have to. There’s hundreds of normal cars in the game

This isn't Gran Turismo 6.

 

[KinLM]

This isn't Gran Turismo 6.

Youre right! It’s GT Sport! Where you have even more up-to-date cars than ever, and free of all the concept cars that were with us since the GT3 days!

So what exactly is your argument?

 

[Tornado]

"Just don't use the Vision GT cars" is even more tenuous of a rebuttal in the game where they make up a fifth of the car list.

 

[R5]

So hang on, are we complaining that a car which isn't going to be in GT Sport shouldn't be in GT Sport?

 

[DatNoiseV12]

To be honest... this would just be another useless car in GT. Actually, I think most of the VGT and other concept cars even ruin GR.1 and Gr. 3 in a way of having fictional races with fictional car specs.

Gr. 4 too, to a much lesser degree (the Citroen GT is in there).

 

[fastone371]

Actually, the original design featured 3 wheels in the back:

The updated one removed the 3rd wheel from the back.

Link to original reveal thread: https://www.gtplanet.net/bertone-vision-gt-concept-revealed-in-new-renderings/

Which end is the front????

 

[Just The Stig]

Which end is the front????

The one pointing to the right.

 

[MisterOne77]

They needn't have bothered. Who wants a trike with a single wheel at the front? Spiritual successor of the reliant robin.

Looks like it was designed by a 18 year old who likes daft punk a bit too much.

Maybe crap like that is why they went bankrupt

What a comment.

 

[Auditore]

What a comment.

People hate VGT's like they ran over their dog.

 

[Tomsoft]

I don't care if it's realistic or not, it is outstanding. VisionGT wanted to let the car company's go insane. Some of them did, some of them kept it more realistic.
SRT did both, Tomahawk S as realistic and X as insane for example. "Fantasy" cars have been in the Gran Turismo series since the beginning, even GT3 and GT4 had them (touring cars, Nike One 2022).
Polyphony should work together with the designer of this car. It could find a way into the game, even if it's only as a Gr.X car.

 

[The Chosen One]

"Just don't use the Vision GT cars" is even more tenuous of a rebuttal in the game where they make up a fifth of the car list.

The most important part of the car list is free of the most radical VGTs. What I mean is N100-1000, Gr. 4, Gr. 3, Gr. 2, Gr. B, and Gr. 1.

(The VGTs are BOP’d to compete within their respective categories, obviously.)

You’re acting like creativity is a negative thing, in a video game of all mediums.

 

[RACECAR]

They needn't have bothered. Who wants a trike with a single wheel at the front? Spiritual successor of the reliant robin.

Looks like it was designed by a 18 year old who likes daft punk a bit too much.

Maybe crap like that is why they went bankrupt

Last I checked, its because Manufacturers bought more of their design work in-House and less came to them for design, not because of One design for a video game.

To be honest... this would just be another useless car in GT. Actually, I think most of the VGT and other concept cars even ruin GR.1 and Gr. 3 in a way of having fictional races with fictional car specs. This may work in an arcade racer, but kind of disables the simulation aspect of a "racing simulator" (...with an FIA sanctioned Sport mode).

I'd prefer PD invests time and money in real world cars - because that's what I want to drive. I don't want to drive what could be but will likely never be.

Isn't that not what they have been doing with the free DLC from November to March? Pretty sure that Toyota GR Supra Racing Concept was also a very real world car.

 

[SestoScudo]

Its good this car is not happening I find the Chappral so ridiculous and this car is even more ridiculous I wont even touch it let alone putting in my Gt Sport garage.

Some Vision Cars are good and some are bad.

 

[syntex123]

Why are so many people complaining about concepts and VGTs when Gran Turismo has ALWAYS been about fictional race cars in the first place. GT1 had them. GT2 had them. GT3-4-5-6 had them. For crying out loud there was even a GT Concept game for each region

— I don’t see people complain about the Pod Race in GT Concept 2002 Tokyo-Geneva. That was a fun race and I’m sure most people here would agree.

If you dislike the VGTs then don’t drive them. It’s as easy as that. I can count on one hand how many times I’ve actually competed in a VGT. I don’t dislike them but I prefer to race proper cars. And I can honestly say I’ve barely noticed the VGTs in my garage.
I don’t spend time crying about cars I don’t want to drive, I spend my time actually playing and enjoying the game with the cars I like, and ignore what I don’t care much for.

 

[mekonrider]

MY EYES!!!!

God, that's horrendous. May cars NEVER end up looking like that in the real world!

 

[GTvsForza]

Why are so many people complaining about concepts and VGTs when Gran Turismo has ALWAYS been about fictional race cars in the first place. GT1 had them. GT2 had them. GT3-4-5-6 had them. For crying out loud there was even a GT Concept game for each region

— I don’t see people complain about the Pod Race in GT Concept 2002 Tokyo-Geneva. That was a fun race and I’m sure most people here would agree.

If you dislike the VGTs then don’t drive them. It’s as easy as that. I can count on one hand how many times I’ve actually competed in a VGT. I don’t dislike them but I prefer to race proper cars. And I can honestly say I’ve barely noticed the VGTs in my garage.
I don’t spend time crying about cars I don’t want to drive, I spend my time actually playing and enjoying the game with the cars I like, and ignore what I don’t care much for.

Forza has whiners about too many SUVs and GT has whiners about VGTs.

I personally like them, even though the GT League races are a pain to win (stupid 2X being OP).