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one thing i dont like about the 787b is that it has 5 gears and just seems kind of odd to see a car with 5 gears.
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Other than 'seems kind of odd', is there anything wrong with it? Formula 1 cars only have one more gear, and first rarely gets used. I find it unusual as well, but I don't think it hurts the performance of the car on the track. The turbo charged quad rotor engine seems to output its share of horsepower and torque at lower revs (:
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i never said that it degrades performance i just like the number 6 better then the number 5 because it just sounds better to me. I think the gt40 is old race car also but i think it still has 6 gears but im not sure about that cause i dont play around with thta car much cause it cant keep up with the pro competition.
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Originally posted by f1king
Well ghost, the 787b is an old race car (mazda) that won the le mans 24hours years ago i think in the early 90s. Thats why it has only 5 gears. And thanks for the wellcome again.
To follow up on secretghost's comment about this ... the older Formula 1 cars in the game also have 6 gears - F686/S for example. It was a 1986 Formula 1 car, the 787B was from 1991 (though originally raced in the late 80's). I think it just has 5 gears because thats all they wanted to put in it. One less gear to have cause a problem. And really, does it need it?
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they probably took out 1 gear to save weight but i dont see how 1 gear can save much weight but it accelerates real quick and the horsepower is instantly transfered to the wheel with a really quick reaction time.
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Can't argue with that...I got my R390 LM setup just the way i like it.Not so much power that the car wants to rip itself apart every time i hit the accelerator,but a stage 3 turbo instead.It's sweet 
Haven't got the 787 yet,but i hear the handling is nowhere near as good as the Nissan's,can any1 clarify this?
Haven't got the 787 yet,but i hear the handling is nowhere near as good as the Nissan's,can any1 clarify this?
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I will have to agree that the 787B is a pretty awesome car. I am working towards getting the GT-One and the R390 Race Car. I remember them from GT2 days though. They are great cars also.
About top speed of 220mph.... Change your tranny ratios and final drive gear, that gives it a higher top speed, but I don't do that except for Test Course. My F1 only does 204 max alone on Test Course, but I sampled the F1 Champ. race there, and I drafted around 235 constantly with it. The only 2 cars I know of that can smoke the 787B on Test Course would be the Viper GTS and the Escudo.
I may be missing something... Anyone have something to add to that?? Oh, 787B I got around 245-250 range, but not enough for Like the Wind!
About top speed of 220mph.... Change your tranny ratios and final drive gear, that gives it a higher top speed, but I don't do that except for Test Course. My F1 only does 204 max alone on Test Course, but I sampled the F1 Champ. race there, and I drafted around 235 constantly with it. The only 2 cars I know of that can smoke the 787B on Test Course would be the Viper GTS and the Escudo.
I may be missing something... Anyone have something to add to that?? Oh, 787B I got around 245-250 range, but not enough for Like the Wind!
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Well guys I think we all have our favorites, i also like the r390 but the 787b is great with tires i usually race it with slicks or super slicks and can go about 15 laps and than pit the most ive gone with the r390 was 11 laps and it was a scary 11th lap but we all have our favorites oh and again it brakes way better than the r390 or the GT1.
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i got to agree with f1king ......although the 787B has an odd paint scheme it is without a doubt the best car in the game (not including the F1 cars) ....even when all three of the cars (Mazda, Toyota, Nissan) are properly tuned, the 787B is the superior car
......take a look at the specs especially the weight of the 787B .....on any track other than Test Course, this car will easily beat the others and with a slight gearing change, it will be just as competitive on Test Course ....who races at Test Course anyways ....these cars are primarily designed for technical courses .......the nissan and toyota have more power but are not better than the 787B ......if i were a race car driver, i'd rather have a car with a little less power but lighter, than a car that has more power but is heavier ......you can pick any track and the 787B will get a better lap time than the other two .....and like f1king said ....it brakes way better and saves it's tires better due to its lighter weight
......take a look at the specs especially the weight of the 787B .....on any track other than Test Course, this car will easily beat the others and with a slight gearing change, it will be just as competitive on Test Course ....who races at Test Course anyways ....these cars are primarily designed for technical courses .......the nissan and toyota have more power but are not better than the 787B ......if i were a race car driver, i'd rather have a car with a little less power but lighter, than a car that has more power but is heavier ......you can pick any track and the 787B will get a better lap time than the other two .....and like f1king said ....it brakes way better and saves it's tires better due to its lighter weight
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i think BAR is a joke .......they're obviously going to have a much improved car this year but the question is how much ....better areodynamics and a better Honda engine but Jordan's getting the same engine with a 7 speed and their car's areodynamics look vastly improved as well .......but time will tell .....i think Villeneuve's just wasting his time and it's pretty sad because i think he is very comparable in skill to Schumacher ......i'm still really excited though and i can't wait for the season to start
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I have a new direct comparison for these 3 big name cars we keep talking about.
Before anyone jumps about the Test course again, it is part of the game and in many different series. I just completed a race using my F090/S (it's the only F1 I have so far).
Line up as follows....
Mazda 787B Toyota GT-One Race Car
Nissan R390 LM Race Car GT40 Race Car
Zonda Race Car F090/S
The 787B went ahead with me to the first turn. I dove in behind him, and stayed there the whole race. The other 4 cars lined up single-file and finished 15 seconds behind us. Of course I waited for my opportunity to pull up beside and pass the Mazda going 230 MPH! I win by 0.075 seconds, adding a tiny percentage to my game completion total.
Nice little story huh?? This may help some people that haven't gathered the concept and importance of drafting yet.... Any questions, feel free to ask me or others here. I am sure that other GT drivers that live on this forum can help out any newbies. :burnout:
Before anyone jumps about the Test course again, it is part of the game and in many different series. I just completed a race using my F090/S (it's the only F1 I have so far).
Line up as follows....
Mazda 787B Toyota GT-One Race Car
Nissan R390 LM Race Car GT40 Race Car
Zonda Race Car F090/S
The 787B went ahead with me to the first turn. I dove in behind him, and stayed there the whole race. The other 4 cars lined up single-file and finished 15 seconds behind us. Of course I waited for my opportunity to pull up beside and pass the Mazda going 230 MPH! I win by 0.075 seconds, adding a tiny percentage to my game completion total.
Nice little story huh?? This may help some people that haven't gathered the concept and importance of drafting yet.... Any questions, feel free to ask me or others here. I am sure that other GT drivers that live on this forum can help out any newbies. :burnout:
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fuel efficiency isn't an issue in this game so you don't need to draftOriginally posted by captainkirk
I have a new direct comparison for these 3 big name cars we keep talking about.
Before anyone jumps about the Test course again, it is part of the game and in many different series. I just completed a race using my F090/S (it's the only F1 I have so far).
Line up as follows....
Mazda 787B Toyota GT-One Race Car
Nissan R390 LM Race Car GT40 Race Car
Zonda Race Car F090/S
The 787B went ahead with me to the first turn. I dove in behind him, and stayed there the whole race. The other 4 cars lined up single-file and finished 15 seconds behind us. Of course I waited for my opportunity to pull up beside and pass the Mazda going 230 MPH! I win by 0.075 seconds, adding a tiny percentage to my game completion total.
Nice little story huh?? This may help some people that haven't gathered the concept and importance of drafting yet.... Any questions, feel free to ask me or others here. I am sure that other GT drivers that live on this forum can help out any newbies. :burnout:
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Schumy, you're right, it's not. I wasn't even thinking about fuel efficiency until you spoke up. First off, that little story shows that the 787B is just as good or better as the Toyota and Nissan. But the reason I drafted that race is just like the GT Championship will need to be done.
I drafted to keep up. If I run alone with the F090/S, I get a top speed of 204 MPH. Running behind the 787B, I stayed with him, doing 230 the whole time. Even when i redlined, I still gained speed and closed the gap between me and him.
Anyhow, thanks for reminding me of the fuel saving issue. I only think of drafting on GT3 as a way to keep up on the Super Speedway and Test Course. I didn't pick up on it until I watched the F1's race together. They always pair up, or go 3 together. Pit stops included. If I had lost that draft, I would have lost that race, simple enough.
It's tough, but I enjoyed that challenge and gained a little experience with it also. :headbang:
I drafted to keep up. If I run alone with the F090/S, I get a top speed of 204 MPH. Running behind the 787B, I stayed with him, doing 230 the whole time. Even when i redlined, I still gained speed and closed the gap between me and him.
Anyhow, thanks for reminding me of the fuel saving issue. I only think of drafting on GT3 as a way to keep up on the Super Speedway and Test Course. I didn't pick up on it until I watched the F1's race together. They always pair up, or go 3 together. Pit stops included. If I had lost that draft, I would have lost that race, simple enough.
It's tough, but I enjoyed that challenge and gained a little experience with it also. :headbang:
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I heard it flies, but poor handling. Maybe some tweaking of the settings could keep it going where you want it to.... 
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yeah i know what you mean but why would you even use an F1 car for that particular race? ......it's not designed for top-speed or oval tracks .....on any other track, 204 mph is quite fast .....basically the F1 cars can have their gear ratios adjusted to go faster but they don't need to go any faster b/c they don't race on those kind of tracks .....anyways i know what you mean ......drafting obviously gives you a huge top-end advantage and you would most certainly have lost the race if you didn't
a perfect example is Ralf and Michael at Montreal last season ..... circuit Gilles Villeneuves is a high-speed track with some long straightaways .....Michael was in the lead for the first third of the race while Ralf in a quicker BMW just followed along and toyed with him causing him to lock wheels and make mistakes ......Ralf could have passed Michael on many occasions in my opinion but he was smart and conserved a considerable amount of gas down the long straights by letting off and getting a nice tow from his brother .......eventually Michael had to come in for fuel but Ralf stayed out for a long time afterwards .......his fuel was conserved and he started lapping like 2 or 3 seconds faster a lap! .....that's sort of what you were talking about but i know in your case you had the slower car
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Great story!!
I done the race for experience and practice towards the F1 Championship. I wanted to see what I could do. I will go find an Escudo to draft with later. :burnout:
I done the race for experience and practice towards the F1 Championship. I wanted to see what I could do. I will go find an Escudo to draft with later. :burnout:
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