Best Gr.3 car?

[boostdmarkii]

I feel like I'm a loner here, but I really like the Jag Gr3 car. It's very well balanced and easy to control under braking and coming out of turns. It's a great jack-of-all-trades.

The Ford GT 18 is also a lot of fun but I had to mess with the tuning. The lift-throttle-oversteer was really bad, even worse under braking. But, add some rear downforce and front brake bias and it's so much better. I will say it's not good for the 730PP races since it needs to be de-tuned and just doesn't seem to like it. But for the 800s it's GTG.

i might end up buying the jag after another 600k made tonight to buy the sauber that is.. Since we aquired ZERO grp 1 or grp2 cars in the campgaign i feel i need something in the stable haha

 

[Talon16]

I encountered this yesterday, super frustrating. I'll try the Gr. 3 'Vette and see how it goes. Having to wait 16 seconds before rolling into the pits is absurd.


Jerome

FYI - On the Vette I ran fuel mode 1 on the ovals and 2 on the infield. Was perfect to get down to like .2ish left on lap 5 and at the end. On the Jag, I could leave it on 1 the whole time.
YMMV

Good luck, it's a very fun race! My favorite to just go do.

 

[Priiv8pile]

I own the Mazda Gr3, Austin Gr3 etc all modified . Daytona road course is the biggest kick to the nuts. The Mazda has ballast added and more HP plus nitrous. Of the 10 laps I have avg 2nd or 3rd until I have to pit with leader pitting as well. The stupid 58 sec pit times are killing the game. I have lead 2 laps in 1st position and once I pit on the 6th lap for gas only (3/4 tank) I fall to 9th with 3 laps to go. Best Ive done is 2nd place finish. The AI off corner speeds are unbelievable, also the AI knows when you lean your fuel out . There is no way the AI cars are de tuned like we have them

 

[praiano63]

I don't know the best GR3 but i know the worst with stock settings. The one i've chosen for manufacturer wanting a free car to test.
Ferrari GR3

• slow
• Dangerous handling

I hope we will have the change of car soon.

 

[JOutterbridge]

I wonder this same thing. The Viper is - for me - basically always the lead car or right up there in the Gr3 races. So I bought one, but I have to keep the fuel at 5 or 6 to get to lap five unless I am doing a double pit stop which is just throwing the race away. It was so slow I couldn't hardly compete. Not sure if the AI is doing a PP cheat or a fuel cheat beacuse I've seen the AI Viper go multiple laps more than I can without pitting.

Fuel is different for each car and setup. Downforce and weight affects it most. Adding ballast weight to lower PP increases fuel use. I was able to do the race without stopping to refuel at all on a lightweight setup and no downforce running lean the whole way.

 

[Talon16]

Fuel is different for each car and setup. Downforce and weight affects it most. Adding ballast weight to lower PP increases fuel use. I was able to do the race without stopping to refuel at all on a lightweight setup and no downforce running lean the whole way.

With the Viper? Interesting.

 

[JOutterbridge]

With the Viper? Interesting.

You can do it. Also try adjusting ride height if you don't want to reduce the power or ecu de tune. You will be slower in the corners but still reach 200 on the outer to blow by the AI. Same goes for the LSD. It affects PP too.

 

[sumbrownkid]

I feel like I'm a loner here, but I really like the Jag Gr3 car. It's very well balanced and easy to control under braking and coming out of turns. It's a great jack-of-all-trades.

The Ford GT 18 is also a lot of fun but I had to mess with the tuning. The lift-throttle-oversteer was really bad, even worse under braking. But, add some rear downforce and front brake bias and it's so much better. I will say it's not good for the 730PP races since it needs to be de-tuned and just doesn't seem to like it. But for the 800s it's GTG.

I’ve actually been having good success with the Ford GT at 730 PP. What I did is install the mid rpm turbo and use the power restrictor to bring it back down. The turbo boost at mid range is more useful than the stock turbo.

 

[Jump_Ace]

I don't know the best GR3 but i know the worst with stock settings. The one i've chosen for manufacturer wanting a free car to test.
Ferrari GR3

• slow
• Dangerous handling

I hope we will have the change of car soon.

I was SO close to buying that car yesterday, whew!


Jerome

 

[Grimm6Jack]

I encountered this yesterday, super frustrating. I'll try the Gr. 3 'Vette and see how it goes. Having to wait 16 seconds before rolling into the pits is absurd.


Jerome

What did you encounter? The pit-stop fiasco where the other cars get way ahead?

Are you changing tires on that Daytona race cuz the AI doesn't. Might be why they're getting the jump. I enounted the same thing so I checked on the replay.

I've won that race multiple times with the Jag and the Vette, with and without changing tires. Usually I do just so I can drive like a madman and it's fun to attempt to re-catch the AI. Doesn't always happen, though!

Yes, I did change the tyres, so maybe it was because of that. Again, I ended up winning the race on the last lap, overtaking the Nissan right after the Chicane.

And yeah, the tyre wear is really low, but I just changed them because, why not? In the other races it didn't make a difference, but I guess it does on this one.



Also, another tip for the Gr.4 cars. The Suzuki Swift Gr.4 is a very well balanced car and has the best fuel economy of all the Gr.4 cars.
I lost the first time I did Laguna Seca because I pitted once. I saw everyone else pit once as well aside from that frickin Suzuki who was also the lead car. When I saw him finish the line over 10 seconds I had to check the replay to see what went wrong. And low and behold, that ****** didn't pit at all, in fact, it still finished with fuel to spare, probably could do one more lap. I had to use my Gr.4 Supra at 6 (economy) all the way to win this race without pitting and I still ended up with 0% fuel at the finish line and overtook it on the last lap a few corners after the corkscrew.

 

[Jump_Ace]

Yeah, it appears to me that I have to wait 16 seconds and the AI waits less. In one race, I pitted at the exact same time as the Vantage Gr.3, we were literally side by side as the pit scene started. I got only fuel that pitstop, enough for 4 remaining laps. Yet I caught up with the Vantage later on. Thats when I stopped trying.


Jerome

 

[Jump_Ace]

I'm onto Suzuka for the 800PP Gr.3 now and getting clobbered again. I did okay in the Vette, until half way through when the tires wore out, the game started to increase around the end of lap 4, same for the NSX. I'm going to try the Jaguar F-Type next and see how that goes. Any other tips?


Jerome

 

[Magog]

I finally found a setup for the Audi that balances oversteer and stability. It gets my vote.

@Jump_Ace use hard tires and pit after 5 laps.

 

[Grimm6Jack]

Yeah, it appears to me that I have to wait 16 seconds and the AI waits less. In one race, I pitted at the exact same time as the Vantage Gr.3, we were literally side by side as the pit scene started. I got only fuel that pitstop, enough for 4 remaining laps. Yet I caught up with the Vantage later on. Thats when I stopped trying.


Jerome

That Daytona Gr.3 730pp race is really hard because of the stupid longer pitstops. After (and before) that you really can't do many mistakes.

I'm onto Suzuka for the 800PP Gr.3 now and getting clobbered again. I did okay in the Vette, until half way through when the tires wore out, the game started to increase around the end of lap 4, same for the NSX. I'm going to try the Jaguar F-Type next and see how that goes. Any other tips?


Jerome

The 800pp races are much easier, with the Gr.3 cars you have at max settings possible. Your Vette should have almost 800hp. Way more than enough to curbstomp the competition. Just use hard tyres and put your fuel economy on 3-4 for the first stint and for about 5 or 6 laps. After that refuel and put economy at 1 for max power and cruise away.

As I said before, for the 800pp races, the Chaparral 2J is by far the best car. But any Gr.3 with a turbo and custom gearbox is plenty enough.

700pp races can be used with any Gr.3 car detuned or a fully tuned Gr.4 car as the AI is using Gr.4 cars. The only problem is in Laguna Seca with the Suzuki Swift that doesn't pit for the entire 10 laps, if he starts on the lead, you are going to be hard pressed to win.

The 600pp races have been more brutal IMO, even more so than the Daytona 730pp race. I was able to win them with different cars but there was not one car where I could confidently say it was the best for the job.

And the race in the WTC 600 Championship in Suzuka is the hardest in the game. The lead AI starts a whooping 40 seconds ahead (usually in a 2017 NSX) and you only have 5 laps to catch him. Took me quite a few tries to get the win. You have to be almost perfect every lap.

EDIT: I play on the Hard (two peppers) setting...

 

[Kojak1970]

I had trouble with the GR.3 championship because I was taking a GR.4 car into the race, and it wasn't able to keep up.

I bronzed all the S License tests and got the Audi GR.3 car which made all the difference in the world, although the Spa race where it's raining cats and dogs on RS tires was a little problematic...

 

[Talon16]

What did you encounter? The pit-stop fiasco where the other cars get way ahead?

Yes, I did change the tyres, so maybe it was because of that. Again, I ended up winning the race on the last lap, overtaking the Nissan right after the Chicane.

And yeah, the tyre wear is really low, but I just changed them because, why not? In the other races it didn't make a difference, but I guess it does on this one.



Also, another tip for the Gr.4 cars. The Suzuki Swift Gr.4 is a very well balanced car and has the best fuel economy of all the Gr.4 cars.
I lost the first time I did Laguna Seca because I pitted once. I saw everyone else pit once as well aside from that frickin Suzuki who was also the lead car. When I saw him finish the line over 10 seconds I had to check the replay to see what went wrong. And low and behold, that ****** didn't pit at all, in fact, it still finished with fuel to spare, probably could do one more lap. I had to use my Gr.4 Supra at 6 (economy) all the way to win this race without pitting and I still ended up with 0% fuel at the finish line and overtook it on the last lap a few corners after the corkscrew.

I had the same issue with that Gr4 race at Leguna. Damn Swift doesn't pit; tried it a few times and every time it didn't. Gonna have to retry that with maybe the Toyota 86 Gr4 car and save fuel like crazy.

For those having troubles on the 800PP races, might I suggest the NSX GT500 (formally known as the Epson NSX in GT-S). That thing doesn't get the credit it deserves, as it's a bit slower than the other Gr2 cars, but it is better than the Gr3 cars, IMO.

On RH tires it comes in just under 800PP. It's great on tires, great on fuel, and has great aero for going through the turns. It lacks a bit on the straights (you can add a turbo to mitigate this but the PP goes well over 800), so LeMans might now be the best, but I won the Daytona 800PP with it pretty easily. Haven't tried Suzuka yet but when I do I'm going to use the NSX. Car is underrated, IMO.

 

[RacingManiac]

I ran the 730pp Daytona race with Audi as well. I ran I think map 2 or 3 still pitted on lap 5 from the lead. I think I can maybe really try to stretch to 6 but no need in the end. It just shorten the refuel time by a bit. Took tires and have to repass in the 2nd half but I can run fuel map 1 to the end.

 

[Jump_Ace]

For those having troubles on the 800PP races, might I suggest the NSX GT500 (formally known as the Epson NSX in GT-S). That thing doesn't get the credit it deserves, as it's a bit slower than the other Gr2 cars, but it is better than the Gr3 cars, IMO.

On RH tires it comes in just under 800PP. It's great on tires, great on fuel, and has great aero for going through the turns. It lacks a bit on the straights (you can add a turbo to mitigate this but the PP goes well over 800), so LeMans might now be the best, but I won the Daytona 800PP with it pretty easily. Haven't tried Suzuka yet but when I do I'm going to use the NSX. Car is underrated, IMO.

Oh, I never tried a Gr. 2 car, I figured it was locked to Gr.3 cars. I'll give it a go @ Suzuka on RH tires. I'll probably try the 'Vette again at LeMans, or another Gr. 2 car. Thx for the idea buddy!


Jerome

 

[Adrenaline]

I own 20 Gr3s at the moment and have tested them on multiple tracks.

I'm going to ignore the 2 cars that are unfairly faster than everything else, because I don't want lobbies full of them. They are genuinely in a class of their own... By roughly 2 seconds per lap, without any tuning required.

As for the rest of the class...
Ferrari 458 is probably #1.
I believe the Lamborghini is #2.
Porsche is probably #3.
Supra at 4.
Then after those 4, there's a group that are driving style preference, such as the Vette, Viper, McLaren, FT1, R8.
The Peugeot is much easier to drive, so far has been the fastest at Daytona.
The Genesis is interesting and might be a solid performer once tuned.
The Beetle was also a let down from it's Sport level.

I think the McLaren is the most user-friendly GR3.

The 2019 Ford GT is trash.
The 4C is trash
And the worst car of them all, that I've found at least, is the NSX.
The RS01 wasn't "bad" but definitely does not live up to its GTSport performance.

I'm saving my credits waiting for the McLaren F1 Gr3 to hit the Legend dealer, so I've stopped buying and testing any other GR3s for the moment, but the Supra and GTR were next on my list.

 

[GBalao888]

The Ford Mustang Gr. 3 is fast, agile and reliable for most of the time - used it to win all Gr. 3 Cup races in World Circuits mode, and the 30-minute High Speed Ring wet weather mission race. It's a Gr. 3 that won't let you down.

 

[Talon16]

I own 20 Gr3s at the moment and have tested them on multiple tracks.

I'm going to ignore the 2 cars that are unfairly faster than everything else, because I don't want lobbies full of them. They are genuinely in a class of their own... By roughly 2 seconds per lap, without any tuning required.

As for the rest of the class...
Ferrari 458 is probably #1.
I believe the Lamborghini is #2.
Porsche is probably #3.
Supra at 4.
Then after those 4, there's a group that are driving style preference, such as the Vette, Viper, McLaren, FT1, R8.
The Peugeot is much easier to drive, so far has been the fastest at Daytona.
The Genesis is interesting and might be a solid performer once tuned.
The Beetle was also a let down from it's Sport level.

I think the McLaren is the most user-friendly GR3.

The 2019 Ford GT is trash.
The 4C is trash
And the worst car of them all, that I've found at least, is the NSX.
The RS01 wasn't "bad" but definitely does not live up to its GTSport performance.

I'm saving my credits waiting for the McLaren F1 Gr3 to hit the Legend dealer, so I've stopped buying and testing any other GR3s for the moment, but the Supra and GTR were next on my list.

Thanks for this. I have five Gr3 cars right now (Ford GT 18, R8, Jag, Vette, Viper). I am really pinching my pennies right now but want to buy the McLaren next. How is it on top speed? Want the Lambo too but seems very similar to the R8 so I will likely wait on that.

I was also considering the NSX but will wait on that based on your review. Want the Mustang, too, but already have three FR cars and I feel the Mustang will be very close to the Vette and Jag.

 

[I_R0M_I]

I was chatting with a guy at work, who was saying signing up for a manufacturer gives you a free Gr 3 car? Is he correct?

The only one I have so far is the free R8 from Super License.
I don't even know which ones are missing from the lovely list posted 😂 I'm the kind of player, who can use the most op, and struggle to be mid field.

 

[Talon16]

I was chatting with a guy at work, who was saying signing up for a manufacturer gives you a free Gr 3 car? Is he correct?

The only one I have so far is the free R8 from Super License.
I don't even know which ones are missing from the lovely list posted 😂 I'm the kind of player, who can use the most op, and struggle to be mid field.

You get to 'borrow' a Gr3 & Gr4 car of your manufacturer. But, eventually, they will disappear.

My question is, can we use them in single player races while we have them?

Might be a good way to try before you buy at least!

 

[MaxP]

The ford gt lm is terribly unstable and difficult to drive or is it just me. I prefer the M6 or the Viper.

 

[xMAXIx79]

The BEST GR.3 Car in GT7... Easy


The Tom's Castrol Supra GT500

If you look for Style and Sound.

On other Side i think you cant say "X or Y or Z are the Best" some Tracks are X better, some are Z better..

But the best Style are the GT500

 

[SnuggleMaster]

I own 20 Gr3s at the moment and have tested them on multiple tracks.

I'm going to ignore the 2 cars that are unfairly faster than everything else, because I don't want lobbies full of them. They are genuinely in a class of their own... By roughly 2 seconds per lap, without any tuning required.

As for the rest of the class...
Ferrari 458 is probably #1.
I believe the Lamborghini is #2.
Porsche is probably #3.
Supra at 4.
Then after those 4, there's a group that are driving style preference, such as the Vette, Viper, McLaren, FT1, R8.
The Peugeot is much easier to drive, so far has been the fastest at Daytona.
The Genesis is interesting and might be a solid performer once tuned.
The Beetle was also a let down from it's Sport level.

I think the McLaren is the most user-friendly GR3.

The 2019 Ford GT is trash.
The 4C is trash
And the worst car of them all, that I've found at least, is the NSX.
The RS01 wasn't "bad" but definitely does not live up to its GTSport performance.

I'm saving my credits waiting for the McLaren F1 Gr3 to hit the Legend dealer, so I've stopped buying and testing any other GR3s for the moment, but the Supra and GTR were next on my list.

How does this list change for bop races? I chose the 458/Ferrari in the manufactures cup and am banging my face into a wall all morning trying to get a sub 1:30 on deep forest.

Also the 458 is nowhere to be seen in any top 10 of any bop race best lap ranking.

 

[Adrenaline]

How does this list change for bop races? I chose the 458/Ferrari in the manufactures cup and am banging my face into a wall all morning trying to get a sub 1:30 on deep forest.

Also the 458 is nowhere to be seen in any top 10 of any bop race best lap ranking.

I don't do bop, so I can't really say.
I picked Lamborghini and also instantly regretted it. Untuned the car is nearly undrivable, without constant trail braking. I put about 10 laps down and the best I could manage was 1:28.621. The car was unenjoyable though so I don't see myself spending much more time there.

It's a shame, because I really enjoy it with a proper tune.

Because of how easy the McLaren is to drive out of the box, it would probably be my recommendation for BOP races, or the Porsche. Both felt really good the moment I hoped into them. Corvette also comes to mind.

I spend a lot of time tuning though trying to squeeze out the best lap times I can from cars that are faster but harder to drive, so I often forget how bad they can be when you have to drive default.

 

[SnuggleMaster]

I don't do bop, so I can't really say.
I picked Lamborghini and also instantly regretted it. Untuned the car is nearly undrivable, without constant trail braking. I put about 10 laps down and the best I could manage was 1:28.621. The car was unenjoyable though so I don't see myself spending much more time there.

It's a shame, because I really enjoy it with a proper tune.

Because of how easy the McLaren is to drive out of the box, it would probably be my recommendation for BOP races, or the Porsche. Both felt really good the moment I hoped into them. Corvette also comes to mind.

I spend a lot of time tuning though trying to squeeze out the best lap times I can from cars that are faster but harder to drive, so I often forget how bad they can be when you have to drive default.

Thanks Ill keep the McLaren in mind for next time. Unfortunately I'm stuck with the 458 all season.

It is kinda crap I cant tune my car at all. They should balance the cars on horsepower to weight and then let us freely tune the suspension downforce and transmission.

 

[sumbrownkid]

The ford gt lm is terribly unstable and difficult to drive or is it just me. I prefer the M6 or the Viper.

At stock the Ford GT LM is a handful, but if you increase the rear down force and the rear damper extension, it becomes much more behaved. Won a lot of races with it so far.

 

[FA_Hayes]

Bop will change with some time. I bet they use some data from the test Manu cup and this weeks race B to make changes.

Presently every car I looked at that I own have the same setups for suspension and aero. Dif settings are a little different but there are no changes in MR or FR cars. It seems they have just capped power and weight with a basic suspension setup.

My trusty GR Supra has horrible rotation and understeer issues compared to mid engine. I'm sure it will change.