Best wheel for GT

[carcoll13]

G25 can be had for around half the price or less than a G27. The key differences are as follows:

- G27 has more buttons on the wheel (may not be configurable in GT5)
- G27 has helical gears which provide smoother, quieter rotation
- G27 has pedals that can be adjusted left or right slightly, and are positioned to better support heal-toe driving (not that I can do this, but people on here do like to boast! )
- G25 has a gear lever that can be switched from H-mode to sequential. G27 loses this switching functionality in favour of a single, more solid H-mode
- G27 has rev indicator lights, oooooooh!

There may be other differences too, but those are the key ones that stand out for me, and are the ones that make me favour a G27 over a G25 despite the price difference.

It is worth bearing in mind that the paddle shifters on the G27 are not supported in GT5 Prologue, but apparently all works well in the new Time Trial, even the lights, oooooooh!

One last difference is the paddles have been "smoothened" on the edges.

I've tried the DFGT at a buddies house with GT5P, felt pretty good overall but in my opinion felt a little too plasticy with the pedals, shifter and paddles.
I tried the Turbo S at a buddies with Forza 3, I liked that wheel better purely for the fact of the 6-speed H-gate shifter, and pedals.. the FFB didn't impressive me much with either but what I really didn't like is the wheel felt a little loose in a way.

I have not tried the G25, but I ended up buying the G27 blindly for the fact that it has a clutch, and apparent improved 6-speed shifter, and I also figured Logitech might have better compatability over Fanatec with the Ps3 (I sold my 360).

Overall I would say I am most happy with the G27, I think it is a great wheel and I really don't care for sequential shift so that didn't subtract any points from me, however the only two things about this setup that could have been better is the feeling through the brake of the Fanatec, which isn't a big deal mind you, and the only other improvement I could ask for would be for the 6-speed shifter to be stiffer, and have the gear positions spaced further apart.. none of which is a big deal, and the FFB was pretty decent, even better with GT4 so I'm assuming the "polish" stage of GT5 will include FFB effects to work up to par with the wheels, so it should be even better than GT4's FFB while GT5P didn't have great FFB.. GT5TT did improve on this though.

So my vote goes to G27, and I will be buying the G29 (lol)

 

[Kryz11]

True, G27 is cheaper then Turbos S (clubsport or non clubsport) , BUT, topic says THE BEST WHEEL, so Fanatec Turbo S is the best setup for the game.

 

[sinner]

Lol... I came in here leaning towards the DFGT... After reading a few comments, I'm sorta leaning towards the G27. I'll be getting a Wheel Stand Pro too, which will be a bit more expensive if I get the G27 version... Decisions, decisions.

 

[Neal]

I got a DFGT for £50 from Amazon and a Wheel Stand Pro, a coffee table is next to useless! I'd be deliberating it for a while and I'm very glad I did, it really makes a huge improvement to all the driving games I've tried so far. No doubt the G23 or G27 would be better but I can't justify spending that much.

Just tried GT5TT with a DS as a comparison and it proved I made the right decision in getting a wheel.

 

[TorqueHappenS08]

DFGT and call it day.... it honestly feels just like my G25 minus the clutch and H shifter..some times i find my self hooking my DFGT back up.

 

[TokyoDrift]

True, G27 is cheaper then Turbos S (clubsport or non clubsport) , BUT, topic says THE BEST WHEEL, so Fanatec Turbo S is the best setup for the game.

Not according to the poll it isn't, and I doubt there is any irrefutable evidence to suggest one way or the other! Besides, I think it's pretty obvious that the term "wheel" also includes the pedals and overall feel.

Lol... I came in here leaning towards the DFGT... After reading a few comments, I'm sorta leaning towards the G27. I'll be getting a Wheel Stand Pro too, which will be a bit more expensive if I get the G27 version... Decisions, decisions.

Haha! All you need to do at times like this is work things out in terms of cost per unit time While the DFGT is a great value wheel, there is a reason why the G27 costs a lot more. If you are going to be using this a lot, then it's not such a silly move to spend a bit more on something better, and arguably a bit more enjoyable too.

Good choice on the Wheel Stand Pro, and make sure you get the G27 version. The one for the G25 will work, but the G27 has a wider base for even more stability, and a thicker top-plate so you can use both screws and the clamps at the same time to fasten the wheel down. With the G25 version, the top plate is thinner so you have to improvise if you want to use the clamps as well. The reason you want to use the clamps as well is because the screws fasten towards the front of the plate, with very little support near the back. It could lift up in the heat of the battle and risk damaging the screws at the front.

 

[Kryz11]

Not according to the poll it isn't, and I doubt there is any irrefutable evidence to suggest one way or the other! Besides, I think it's pretty obvious that the term "wheel" also includes the pedals and overall feel.

Yeah, so Fanatec has better shifter and better ClubSport pedals with working vibration, and are customizable.

You say POLL says other wise, so you tell me because people think this or that is better. In reality its not. Its just G25/27 is more popular not the best.


You want evidence? Hmm Sim Racing Tonight rated the TURBO S for the best wheel out of them all. As well I have both G25 and Fanatec, Its like day and night between the two. Besides have you ever even drive with Fanatec wheel? If not, I think you argument is invalid.

 

[TokyoDrift]

Yeah, so Fanatec has better shifter and better ClubSport pedals with working vibration, and are customizable.

You say POLL says other wise, so you tell me because people think this or that is better. In reality its not. Its just G25/27 is more popular not the best.


You want evidence? Hmm Sim Racing Tonight rated the TURBO S for the best wheel out of them all. As well I have both G25 and Fanatec, Its like day and night between the two.

If a poll says that G25/G27 is most popular, it's because those people, for whatever reason, prefer that wheel. Read into that however you like.

So whatever SRT say, that's to be taken as gospel? In a review of many wheels, they didn't all agree, and one preferred the G27, so go figure... Anyway, you soon changed your tune from "wheel only" to including pedals etc.

 

[phil_2001]

Maybe G27 is the best wheel for GT, but is the worst wheel for the price in comparison with the other wheels. In Moscow G27 is more than $500 and someplaces more than $600, that's genuinely insane. Whatever mechanical gears g27 has it's plastic anyway and it's not very special at all. Even $300 for a game controller like that is crazy.

 

[Kryz11]

Wheel to pedals, either way Fanatec has best stuff.. So 2 choose Fanatec wheel on SRT, one chose G27.. so basically you tell me Fanatec wins then... since you mention POPULAR STUFF WINS.. There is huge difference in being POPULAR and being the best.. Thread states best wheel for GT, Fanatec is best wheel on the market, from pedals to shifter to feedback and over all feel.

Sure they did honest review, I have both and i am honest myself, dont be such a narrow-minded Logitech fan(boy) person, there are plenty of good wheels out on the market, and Fanatec is the only one to beat it with being bit more expensive

Heck even looking at Specs of both wheels, fanatec wins with its belt driven feedback.

 

[zippyuk]

I just gone back to a G25 from the DFGT, the G25 has so much more feel, especially the pedals, so my vote goes for the G25 👍

 

[TokyoDrift]

Wheel to pedals, either way Fanatec has best stuff.. So 2 choose Fanatec wheel on SRT, one chose G27.. so basically you tell me Fanatec wins then... since you mention POPULAR STUFF WINS.. There is huge difference in being POPULAR and being the best.. Thread states best wheel for GT, Fanatec is best wheel on the market, from pedals to shifter to feedback and over all feel.

They have the best stuff eh? On who's authority? I never said that being popular means being the best - you just inferred that.

Sure they did honest review, I have both and i am honest myself, dont be such a narrow-minded Logitech fan(boy) person, there are plenty of good wheels out on the market, and Fanatec is the only one to beat it with being bit more expensive

Narrow minded fanboy? That's a bit rich having just endured your "Fanatec is best, simple as that" spiel. Being more expensive does not necessarily mean something is best either. Some would argue the cheaper G25 is better than the G27, because the reality is, being "better" goes beyond preceived functionality. Sure, G27 is cheaper, G25 even cheaper still, but Logitech products are far easier to source, and I've read much less anecdotal evidence around issues with the G25/G27 compared to Fanatec. Just stating what I've read, not my "opinion" - I couldn't care less either way which one is more reliable in reality - lots of products have issues, even expensive ones.

Heck even looking at Specs of both wheels, fanatec wins with its belt driven feedback.

OK, just for you, the Fanatec is by far the better wheel. Still doesn't change the poll, which is what it is for a reason. I have never said any more than that.

 

[carcoll13]

Wheel to pedals, either way Fanatec has best stuff.. So 2 choose Fanatec wheel on SRT, one chose G27.. so basically you tell me Fanatec wins then... since you mention POPULAR STUFF WINS.. There is huge difference in being POPULAR and being the best.. Thread states best wheel for GT, Fanatec is best wheel on the market, from pedals to shifter to feedback and over all feel.

Sure they did honest review, I have both and i am honest myself, dont be such a narrow-minded Logitech fan(boy) person, there are plenty of good wheels out on the market, and Fanatec is the only one to beat it with being bit more expensive

Heck even looking at Specs of both wheels, fanatec wins with its belt driven feedback.

Funny how you tell Tokyodrift to not be a Logitech fanboy, as you are obviously being a biased fanboy for Fanatec.
Reviews are based on somebodys opinion, that doesn't make the opinion right for everyone, or prove something is better as opinions vary from person to person, yet you are trying to shove Fanatec down peoples throats yet not everybody likes that wheel as much as another.

You like Fanatec better, we get that and your not alone, but that doesn't make it a better wheel.. neither G27 or Fanatec is all around better but some people will like one or another better.

 

[lbsf1]

the g27 is the best.
however the dfgt is the best for the money

 

[TokyoDrift]

Funny how you tell Tokyodrift to not be a Logitech fanboy, as you are obviously being a biased fanboy for Fanatec.
Reviews are based on somebodys opinion, that doesn't make the opinion right for everyone, or prove something is better as opinions vary from person to person, yet you are trying to shove Fanatec down peoples throats yet not everybody likes that wheel as much as another.

You like Fanatec better, we get that and your not alone, but that doesn't make it a better wheel.. neither G27 or Fanatec is all around better but some people will like one or another better.

Oh I know, crazy huh?!

Anyway, you are spot on. In cases like this (just like with games and consoles) something being better or worse is largely someones opinion based on their experiences. One mans nectar can be another mans poison.

Something else to consider is, what defines "better"? A wheel that feels better, or a wheel that makes you faster in-game? Does a wheel that feels better MAKE you faster in-game? Factor that in, along with peoples individual preferences and experiences, and it becomes very difficult to state that one wheel is categorically better than the other.

 

[carcoll13]

Oh I know, crazy huh?!

Anyway, you are spot on. In cases like this (just like with games and consoles) something being better or worse is largely someones opinion based on their experiences. One mans nectar can be another mans poison.

Something else to consider is, what defines "better"? A wheel that feels better, or a wheel that makes you faster in-game? Does a wheel that feels better MAKE you faster in-game? Factor that in, along with peoples individual preferences and experiences, and it becomes very difficult to state that one wheel is categorically better than the other.

Crazy is right!

Yes you are right, and that goes for almost anything.

Exactly, if one wheel is better feeling to you, yet another lets you perform better in game how would you decide which is better? That would also make for that individual having the opinion that either a better feel makes for a better wheel, or a faster wheel makes for a better wheel.

Even the poll results don't necessarily mean the winner is better, just that the number of members that came across this specific thread either prefer one wheel, or haven't tried another but feel happy about the wheel they do have.. the only way somebody can really figure out which one of the 4 is most suited to them (not better) would be to have a sit down with each, but those looking at the poll results to help them decide which wheel to buy won't necessarily choose the top rated wheel because certain aspects of that particular wheel might not appeal to them as much as another.

I'm sorry for my rant, such bias posts just sorta grind my gears lol.. I believe apples and oranges are both good for different reasons and different people.

 

[Bandit6]

Wheel wars!

 

[Seismica]

Fanatec wheel with Clubsport i keep hearing good things about, but if i remember rightly, it retails for around £450. As opposed to around £280 for a G27. Sure if you get the basic Fanatec pedals and shifter its not that much more than a G27, but the shifter looks really poor quality from videos i've seen, and reviews i've seen always mark it down for the standard pedals which apparently suck compared to the G25/G27 pedals.

If you have the cash, get a Fanatec wheel Clubsport pack. But i think if you can find one of the few (new) G25s out there for <£150, then go with that, its just awesome value.

I will probably just end up getting a DFGT myself, because money is tight. By no means is it the best wheel though.

 

[Mr Latte]

Best Wheel:

Fanatec Turbo S
Change wheel settings on the fly.
Additional Wheel Rumble/Brake Rumble/Drift Modes not available on other wheels.
Smoothest and quietest wheel.
Illuminated buttons
High quality leather wheel rim (GT3RS is most comfortable by far)
Belt Drive
Strongest FFB
Compatible with Fanatec & G25 Pedals
Clubsports are best quality and adaptable pedals (upcoming tuning kit)

Logitech G27
Great paddle shifters
Best plastic pedals
Rev counter (PS3 fuctionality may be added)
Highly durable build quality and design
Best table mounting system (if not hardmounting)


G25 can not be considered best as G27 improves on it and will eventually be sold out and replaced....
GT3RS from Fanatec is not guranteed to work with GT5 so should be excluded at this time.

DFGT is official licensced wheel with additional menu settings/dial.
However it cannot be condsidered the best wheel for more advanced players as it does not support clutch and H-Shifter.
Furthermore its build quality and performance compared to the above is of course much less as reflected in its price.

Its almost a given the Turbo S betters the G27 as I think most fair reviews would reflect.
However it becomes more complicated to recemmond over a G27 when you take into account the pedals and shifters.
Each product still in my own opinion have "H-Shifters" that feel too toyish compared to the actual wheels.

The ideal best would be a Turbo S with a GT3RS wheel rim, but include illuminated buttons, G27 pedals or (Clubsports) and have either G25 or G27 paddle shifters.
As for the H-Shifter it would have to be something like a SST to offer much improved usage and build quality.

 

[TrievelA7X]

Basically, at this point, I'm seeing a few things: The G25 would be a good deal, if you can find it anywhere, so far I haven't found squat, other than used. (sorry, no thanks)

The G27 is about 99% guaranteed to work with GT5, and is a great wheel, just expensive.

The Fanatec's are the best wheels, all-in-all, but may or may not work correctly with GT5.

DFGT is a viable alternative to those that don't have / don't want to spend over 200$ to spend on a wheel.

On a humorous note, there are 2 listings for G25's new through Amazon, sold by other retailers, priced at about 500$.

So from what I'm seeing, it seems overall, with price, performance, and functionality in mind, the G27 seems like the best bet.
Unless you're willing to buy a second wheel if the Fanatecs don't work with GT5.

And thanks to everyone so far, whether you've used 1 wheel or every wheel ever made, I (and others) are reading and learning all the views on each from every opinion.
Keep 'em coming, more never hurt.

 

[Live_Fr0m_NY]

Yeah, so Fanatec has better shifter and better ClubSport pedals with working vibration, and are customizable.

You say POLL says other wise, so you tell me because people think this or that is better. In reality its not. Its just G25/27 is more popular not the best.


You want evidence? Hmm Sim Racing Tonight rated the TURBO S for the best wheel out of them all. As well I have both G25 and Fanatec, Its like day and night between the two. Besides have you ever even drive with Fanatec wheel? If not, I think you argument is invalid.

Yea they all rated the wheel marginally better but when asked what wheel they would pick if they had to pick ONE... If i remeber correctly nobody picked the porsche wheel...

 

[phil_2001]

I have to be honest I do find G25 ugly and oldfashioned like it was taken from the 60's design, or from those superlight racing wheels that look even uglier than the G25. Fanatec wheels look modern like and that is important when you like modern cars, they look a bit bulky in comparison to the actual porsche wheels only because of the smaller diameter.

But then look at a real koenigsegg steering wheel, my god that thing looks like a toy... too much. Even a G25 in there would be better.

 

[Live_Fr0m_NY]

Wheel wars!

haha this is like the PS3 vs 360 debate

 

[Kryz11]

When I mentioned Fanatec is best wheel, you mentioned this

Not according to the poll it isn't,

So basically this states that you agree that more popular the better?

.......

Also yeah I wanna call you a Logitech fan, because put it this way..

Lets compare a DODGE VIPER to a Ferrari F430

One is cheper over the other,
and lets say everyone votes the VIPER is better , but in reality the F430 even tho less popular it has better reviews and in fact is better over all.. Sure both are as fast on straight line, but when it comes to turns, Viper falls short..

So my point exacly

Either way, you started the whole thing by quoting on what I think is best wheel.. so when you start something.. dont get upset when you get a response back.

And yeas I am A FAN (GUY) for Fanatec wheels, because I have both Logitech and Fanatec wheels, and I say Fanatec is more like driving a real car, over JERKY Logitech wheels.

 

[phil_2001]

When I mentioned Fanatec is best wheel, you mentioned this



So basically this states that you agree that more popular the better?

.......

Also yeah I wanna call you a Logitech fan, because put it this way..

Lets compare a DODGE VIPER to a Ferrari F430

One is cheper over the other,
and lets say everyone votes the VIPER is better , but in reality the F430 even tho less popular it has better reviews and in fact is better over all.. Sure both are as fast on straight line, but when it comes to turns, Viper falls short..

So my point exacly

Either way, you started the whole thing by quoting on what I think is best wheel.. so when you start something.. dont get upset when you get a response back.

And yeas I am A FAN (GUY) for Fanatec wheels, because I have both Logitech and Fanatec wheels, and I say Fanatec is more like driving a real car, over JERKY Logitech wheels.

Don't worry, as soon as Fanatec gets widely popular and tastes the curse of that which is called "business" the quality of their products will be on par with Logitech's.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

Fanatec for me, smoothest and best feedback. Sim Racing Tonight voted for Fanatec as well. Not to mention shifter and peddals (clubsport ones) are way better over the Logitech G27

Might consider buying one, especially if there is not a "specific" GT5 wheel coming for GT5.

Got a link where I can look at purchasing Fanatec's latest and greatest, for PS3 of course?

 

[TrievelA7X]

Might consider buying one, especially if there is not a "specific" GT5 wheel coming for GT5.

Got a link where I can look at purchasing Fanatec's latest and greatest, for PS3 of course?

I believe we already have the "official" GT wheel, in the DFGT - hence the "GT" part.
I found Fanatec wheels hard to find for sale, searching google, and no listings were very specific as to what platforms they are available on.
Including Fanatec's website, where only one or two says it works for the PS3. Fanatec.com

And could we try to keep the flaming down? The term "fanboy" is already way overused on the net, and just because somebody swears by a product doesn't make them a fanboy, and that goes for everyone.

Remove Product(s) Qty. Total

Porsche 911 Turbo S Wheel US
$349.95

Clubsport Pedals USB
$199.95

Porsche Wheel pedal/shifter cable 2.5 m
$2.00

Porsche wheel Shifter set
$49.95

Sub-Total: $601.85

Seeing that, anyone who factors price in at all, has to take a deep breath reading that final sticker price.
And from what I've heard, their "standard" equipment, though much cheaper, is worse than the G27's, while still more expensive.

 

[sinner]

Speaking of price... how much is the G27 and the DFGT for you guys?
Here in HK the G27 is US$250, while the DFGT is around $102...

 

[TheDabbinDave]

I believe we already have the "official" GT wheel, in the DFGT - hence the "GT" part.
I found Fanatec wheels hard to find for sale, searching google, and no listings were very specific as to what platforms they are available on.
Including Fanatec's website, where only one or two says it works for the PS3. Fanatec.com

And could we try to keep the flaming down? The term "fanboy" is already way overused on the net, and just because somebody swears by a product doesn't make them a fanboy, and that goes for everyone.

Remove Product(s) Qty. Total

Porsche 911 Turbo S Wheel US
$349.95

Clubsport Pedals USB
$199.95

Porsche Wheel pedal/shifter cable 2.5 m
$2.00

Porsche wheel Shifter set
$49.95

Sub-Total: $601.85

Seeing that, anyone who factors price in at all, has to take a deep breath reading that final sticker price.
And from what I've heard, their "standard" equipment, though much cheaper, is worse than the G27's, while still more expensive.

Couple of things. First where did I use the word "official"? I thought I made my assertion clear, no? Let me spell it out for you, I am among the many hoping for a new wheel to come out from Logitech when GT5 gets here.

Second:

And could we try to keep the flaming down? The term "fanboy" is already way overused on the net, and just because somebody swears by a product doesn't make them a fanboy, and that goes for everyone.

What the frack is that and where did it come from? Unless you're talking to someone else? Please point out how this post is being construed as "flaming"?


More importantly, how do they get off charging the same price for the GT3 and the Turbos S? When the GT3 includes the $200 pedals? Is the Turbo S wheel THAT much better than the GT3 wheel? I understand they cannot guarantee comparability outside of PC usage, they should at least list what games have been confirmed that the GT3 works with.

Their pricing structure is really screwed up!

 

[TrievelA7X]

Speaking of price... how much is the G27 and the DFGT for you guys?
Here in HK the G27 is US$250, while the DFGT is around $102...

267$ USD on Amazon at the moment. (regular price claimed 299$) But they did that with the G25 since I can remember too.

Couple of things. First where did I use the word "official"? I thought I made my assertion clear, no? Let me spell it out for you, I am among the many hoping for a new wheel to come out from Logitech when GT5 gets here.

You said "specific". And it's here, the DFGT.
It's possible, I'll give you that, sure, but I'd reckon a 99.9% chance the DFGT, having a GT logo and all, and being developed specifically for GT, is what they will stick with. Partly due to keeping cost down, they don't want the "official" GT wheel to cost 200$.

What the frack is that and where did it come from? Unless you're talking to someone else? Please point out how this post is being construed as "flaming"?

It wasn't directed towards you. Why are you taking all this so personally?
It was directed towards the semi-angry and getting angrier posts back and forth of "you're a fanboy" and the retort, "no, you're a fanboy", etc.

More importantly, how do they get off charging the same price for the GT3 and the Turbos S? When the GT3 includes the $200 pedals? Is the Turbo S wheel THAT much better than the GT3 wheel? I understand they cannot guarantee comparability outside of PC usage, they should at least list what games have been confirmed that the GT3 works with.

Their pricing structure is really screwed up!

I have no clue. I just put everything top of the line in my cart, copied and pasted. But I believe you might need 2 sets of the 2$ wire, one for pedals, one for shifter, but idk for sure.


But basically, from what I'm seeing, the Fanatec wheels, while maybe marginally better than the G27, are horribly overpriced just because they're "Porsche" wheels. JMO.

Between the clutch, 6-gate shifter, and all-in-all reviewed higher quality of the G25/27 over the DFGT, I can see some price justification, but going from 267$ (or 300$) for the G27 to 600$ for a Fanatec, seems kinda of like the "vision racer". (priced at 1100$) Just massivly overpriced for being "the best"

Or, to put it in car terms, the Fanatec is priced just like Porsche's.
To much, for to little, but a great product that some people will buy, and they'll turn a great profit off each and every one of them.