"Blade Runner" Oscar Pistorius shoots his girlfriend

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Apparently a real tweet from Pistorius from a couple of months ago...

"Nothing like getting home to hear the washing machine on and thinking its an intruder to go into full combat recon mode into the pantry! waa "

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Even if he was thinking she was an intruder he should be at least guilty of manslaughter, first you identify your target, then you shoot until the threat is stopped, not the other way around.
He is either an extremely dangerous moron or a murderer.

Oh, and for the people saying that shooting a person that many times is not self defense, this is real life and not a computer game, most pistols in the real world have very little stopping power, as far as I know 83% of people shot by handguns survive. This is why the police is trained to shoot attackers until they're down.
 
Just for information to people. If you are white and in South Africa you NEED to be prepared . Supposedly (can't confirm this due to it being a friend telling me this) Oscar lived in a pretty rough area, so the carrying a gun incase of an intruder is pretty justified. Hell, when a mate of mine hired a car in South Africa to drive across the country to a hotel (airline re routed his flight) the hire company had put a gun in his glovebox so that they could defend themselves.

Another friend of mine comes from South Africa and says that his families house is in a gated comunity and has 8foot walls round it and armed guards, he says that his family isn't abnormal doing this either. There is so much corruption there and so many blacks hate the whites that they need it.

All of the above makes me think it plausible how he was acting was genuinely out of defence. What would you do if you heard a noise in the night and know that in the area people do get broken into and murdered???

Another supposedly here but I was told by another friend that Oscars girlfriend planned to sneak in to surprise Oscar for valentines day, which would explain him reacting to a person being in the house when he thought he was alone.
 
lbsf1
What would you do if you heard a noise in the night and know that in the area people do get broken into and murdered???
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Identify the target, shoot the target. Shooting into the general direction of a possible threat is just incredibly stupid and absolutely inexcusable.
Even in life or death combat situations the first thing a soldier needs to do is to identify targets, then engage them.

I've already been in such a situation, woke up in the middle of the night because I heard very strange LOUD noises at the door, grabbed my shotgun, chambered a shell, cleared rooms while approaching the door, ready to rock and roll.
If I had shot what I believed was an intruder I would have killed my cat. (My cat was trying to catch a bug, banged against my furniture, in the middle of the night)
Sure, I'm not really living in a very dangerous country, but there had been several cases where people were robbed and killed (executed) in their homes.
 
The guy is such a dumbass. He shot this:
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Zenith
I'd hope that they need more evidence than that. Unfortunately he's the only witness.
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I'm sure they can gather some decent physical evidence, proving she was running away. But really, what your saying is you want witnesses. Hmm....so all the murders out there without any witnesses means the defendant should be found innocent. :sly:

This reminds me of the Casey Anthony trial where the Jury wanted this incredible technological show with light effects and other crap like they see on CSI.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2077937,00.html

The problem now days in my opinion is these crazy standards where investigators have to come up with these impressive smoking guns TV style or else Joe public is unimpressed. I cannot count how many debates I had back in the day about people saying Lance Armstrong had been clean because he never failed a test, and they felt the evil french lab techs/scientific community was out to get him with their impressive arsenal of gear, etc, etc.
 
Touring Mars
Some reports are saying that she was shot through the bathroom door...
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Yeah, I read that in the Telegraph today. I dunno why you would shoot an 'intruder" through a door, surely you try and identify them first.
 
I have a really hard time accepting the shoot first ask questions later philosophy some people seem to go by.

Maybe it's because I live in a pretty safe place. But sill, I have troubles wrapping my mind around it. It seems insane either way.
 
If someone was likely armed and willing to enter your home without your permission, they'd probably be fine with taking you out as well, or at least stopping you from taking further action.

Don't want to get shot at? Don't break into someone's house. Pretty simple.
 
Tesla
If someone was likely armed and willing to enter your home without your permission, they'd probably be fine with taking you out as well, or at least stopping you from taking further action.

Don't want to get shot at? Don't break into someone's house. Pretty simple.
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The problem is when it isn't a burglar. But for example a family member.

Also, breaking into someone's home doesn't warrant death. It's insane reasoning in my opinion.
 
You can't know for sure. Is it worth taking that time to identify the suspect when they may have already when they don't care who you are and can just shoot? Especially in areas where there is a large crime problem, such as in this case.

I never said that it warrants death. I said it warrants being shot at. That also means being shot in the arm or a leg, somewhere that it probably won't kill you but will incapacitate the suspect. However, the torso is the largest and easiest part of the body to aim for, but it also houses most of your vital organs.
 
Touring Mars
Some reports are saying that she was shot through the bathroom door...
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It's beginning to seem that Pistorius had been afflicted with deteriorating personality and behavioral issues for quite some time.

So likely what we have here is a common domestic quarrel where he shot his girlfriend over some real or imagined grievance.

His blubbering, self-pitying breakdown in the courtroom was a sad sight to behold.
 
Rich S
I'm sure they can gather some decent physical evidence, proving she was running away. But really, what your saying is you want witnesses. Hmm....so all the murders out there without any witnesses means the defendant should be found innocent. :sly:
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Hey buddy. That's actually not what I'm saying. Do not put words in my mouth, it's offensive.

Of course we want all the evidence possible. I don't expect that kind of evidence and I don't rely on that kind of evidence to prove someone guilty.
 
Encyclopedia
The problem is when it isn't a burglar. But for example a family member.

Also, breaking into someone's home doesn't warrant death. It's insane reasoning in my opinion.
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Does it warrant death? No. But if it's the middle of the night, my honey is beside me, it's dark, I hear a noise, go out to investigate, see a guy or two in the dark, I point my weapon and yell at them to get out of the house. If he/they doesn't immediately start running the other way, if he turns towards me, says something stupid, moves his hands toward his jacket etc, I'm blasting away. That's the risk you run when you enter someone's house in the middle of the night. I'm certainly not going to wait until I positively ID whether he has a gun or not and then attempt to win a shootout in my pyjamas. I have no sympathy for anyone that gets shot and dies in the middle of a robbery attempt.
 
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Kat Williams once had a stand up where he referred to this guy as "poor little tink tink"

Guess he just got fresh material.
 
Tesla
You can't know for sure. Is it worth taking that time to identify the suspect when they may have already when they don't care who you are and can just shoot? Especially in areas where there is a large crime problem, such as in this case.

I never said that it warrants death. I said it warrants being shot at. That also means being shot in the arm or a leg, somewhere that it probably won't kill you but will incapacitate the suspect. However, the torso is the largest and easiest part of the body to aim for, but it also houses most of your vital organs.
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Which is basically waranting death then. The whole you can never know argument seems too extreme to me.

Johnnypenso
Does it warrant death? No. But if it's the middle of the night, my honey is beside me, it's dark, I hear a noise, go out to investigate, see a guy or two in the dark, I point my weapon and yell at them to get out of the house. If he/they doesn't immediately start running the other way, if he turns towards me, says something stupid, moves his hands toward his jacket etc, I'm blasting away. That's the risk you run when you enter someone's house in the middle of the night. I'm certainly not going to wait until I positively ID whether he has a gun or not and then attempt to win a shootout in my pyjamas. I have no sympathy for anyone that gets shot and dies in the middle of a robbery attempt.
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This however I can get behind. You've then basically done all you can to come to a "peaceful" solution. If the burglar is stupid enough not to listen or gets frisky, then they've had their chance.
 
Such a pity he shot a woman who apparently loved him, regardless of intention, it's even more sad when the man responsible for the crime was such an inspirational character...

R.I.P. Reeva.
 
Zenith
Hey buddy. That's actually not what I'm saying. Do not put words in my mouth, it's offensive.

Of course we want all the evidence possible. I don't expect that kind of evidence and I don't rely on that kind of evidence to prove someone guilty.
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Ok. 👍

Now huffington post is reporting that Oscar attempted resuscitation aka mouth to mouth.

This reminds me of alot of cases over the years, the guy in Australia who was a certified life guard (I think cant remember) who killed his fiancee while diving then tried so so very hard to save her.

This also is a bit like the Green Beret doctor who had a wife and young children, he must have felt they were crimping his style because he killed all of them with an ice pic. After being released from prison on appeal I believe he worked for the F1 race in long beach California at the time (1980-82), but was later re arrested where he is now.... :sly: He still appeals to this day and has many followers or "fans." Much like Richard Ramirez who received marriage purposals after his convictions.
 
Encyclopedia
Also, breaking into someone's home doesn't warrant death. It's insane reasoning in my opinion.
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There are states here where would be burglars/rapist/murders have been awarded civil damages when their exploits fail. Sounds like a good message to send imo 👍
 
- Oh man, I shot Reeva in the face.
- Why the hell did you do that!
- Well, I didn't mean to do it, it was an accident!
 
Been looking through the thread... honestly some incredibly distasteful comments here about Oscar in my opinion...
 
Furinkazen
Been looking through the thread... honestly some incredibly distasteful comments here about Oscar in my opinion...
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It is the internetz Yo!

But, I just read they found a bloody cricket bat (paddle?) in house?

Clickie

Maybe something kinky was going on that went a bit too far.
 

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