BMW 2-Series & M2

[TheCracker]

Yeah, that looks like it might be FWD. The stance is all off.

It is, it's based on the same platform as the 2-series Active and Grand Tourers. As well as the bigger Minis. I think all the new sub 3-series BMWs will be FWD from now on. You can tell by the profile where the front wheels are situated somewhat further back then they usually are on a BMW. It's why, in my eyes, the none-hatchback Merc A-classes all look 'off' when compared to their similarly styled bigger siblings.

 

[MatskiMonk]

It is, it's based on the same platform as the 2-series Active and Grand Tourers. As well as the bigger Minis. I think all the new sub 3-series BMWs will be FWD from now on. You can tell by the profile where the front wheels are situated somewhat further back then they usually are on a BMW. It's why, in my eyes, the none-hatchback Merc A-classes all look 'off' when compared to their similarly styled bigger siblings.

FWD 'UKL ' platform currently used for F45/F46 2 Series Active/Gran Tourer, F48/F49 X1, F39 X2, F52 1 Series Sedan, and the Mini Range.

2 Series Gran Coupe (F44) and next 1-er (F40) will also use the same UKL architecture, however, the development codes for the next 2 series coupe, are notably a G prefix (G42/G43), so there's still a reasonable chance that they will remain RWD.

 

[MatskiMonk]

M2 Competition.. 302kW

 

[Vegard]

M2 Competition.. 302kW

In metric/imperial old money that's 410/405 horsepower. Wow.
Rather than a tuned N55 it packs a detuned S55.
7 speed DCT or 6 speed manual.

This gets better and better the more I read.

 

[MatskiMonk]

BMW Vision GT just got 'real'

https://www.facebook.com/mtcdesignltd/

 

[VXR]

That's actually decent!

 

[05XR8]

I like that. Nice old school deep dish wheels. Some gold BBS ought to do the trick.

 

[GranTurNismo]

2-Series Gran Coupe spied, and will be unveiled on July 24th. It will be based on the new 1-Series' FWD/AWD platform instead of the current M2's RWD platform, rivaling the Mercedes-Benz CLA and Audi A3 sedan. Unknown whether an official M package will be offered.

https://www.carscoops.com/2019/07/2...oupes-new-camouflage-announces-july-24-debut/

 

[SlipZtrEm]

The proportions of a damned Sentra. Gross.

 

[GranTurNismo]

The proportions of a damned Sentra. Gross.

It's a shame. That's what happens when you switch to FWD. It's pretty much impossible to not make the car look blobby and awkward.

 

[FT-1]

I actually don't mind it, to me it looks like a 8 Series Gran Coupe that's been in the shrink ray, particularly at the rear with the slim tail lights.

 

[McLaren]

GranCoupe all the cars!


Shame. The GranCoupe cars are usually pretty good looking. Slipz nailed my impression on this though.

 

[05XR8]

I'm willing to see how it goes. It'll probably be redesigned in a year or two anyway. *waits for TCR/WTCR announcement*

 

[MedigoFlame]

Supposed leak of the new generation 2-Series coupe.

https://www.carscoops.com/2020/04/new-2022-bmw-2-series-coupe-g42-revealed-through-leaked-photos/

 

[MisterWaffles]

The front looks like some weird hybrid of a BMW and a pre-facelift Toyota GT86.

 

[Clark]

The rear boot lid reminds me of an E90 lci.

 

[FT-1]

The front looks very nice, but I'm getting some Vauxhall Corsa vibes from the back. Not that it is bad looking, but having a similar rear end to something more vanilla dampens the appeal.

Interestingly, the headlights seem to have ditched the traditional angel eyes design and uses a single LED strip like the BMW i3.

 

[05XR8]

I guess every brand will be copying that front bumper design.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

I guess every brand will be copying that front bumper design.

All the creases.

I see BMW is still designing awful hood shut lines. Makes the whole front of the car look like a mask.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Verdict on the M235i is meh

 

[JC_Dude]

Verdict on the M235i is meh

Usurprising. They got rid of all things that made BMW stand out and sprinkled it with terrible design.

 

[FT-1]

The CLA and S3 look so classy compared to the 2 Series. What's even more embarrassing (for the BMW) is that the Audi is going out of production this year.

 

[DriveSpark]

At this stage you'll have to pry my F21 from my dead, cold hands. The body lines on the 1 series are just awful from pretty much every angle and that.. thing isn't really any better. To then give it a 4 pot and haldex (I assume) pretty much wipes out any reason to buy either.

The F cars stood out for being different. BMW have decided to go build what everyone else does and in doing so removed any reason to buy. I wonder if this means the M2/M2C cars will see residuals strengthen given that they won't be replaced ?

I'm now RWD zealot but these G cars are just the worst possible thing BMW could have done

 

[FT-1]

I wonder if this means the M2/M2C cars will see residuals strengthen given that they won't be replaced ?

Apparently the next-gen BMW M2 has been given the green light, it will use a platform similar to the one used on the GR Supra and Z4. The current-gen M2/M2C will probably be heavily coveted though, much like the 1-Series M.

 

[DriveSpark]

I didn't know that, so the 1 series Mlite car remains 4 pot 4wd, the 2 series Mlite the same, but the "Proper" M is basically a compleely different car?

What a mess.

 

[FT-1]

I didn't know that, so the 1 series Mlite car remains 4 pot 4wd, the 2 series Mlite the same, but the "Proper" M is basically a compleely different car?

What a mess.

It gets worse when you realise this is also called the 2 Series

 

[MatskiMonk]

The F cars stood out for being different. BMW have decided to go build what everyone else does and in doing so removed any reason to buy. I wonder if this means the M2/M2C cars will see residuals strengthen given that they won't be replaced ?

I'm now RWD zealot but these G cars are just the worst possible thing BMW could have done

2 Series Gran Coupe is an F car, in fact pretty much all FWD UKL based BMW's are. All G models are RWD or AWD.

 

[DriveSpark]

I meant specifically the F20/21/22/23, but you knew that.

 

[MatskiMonk]

I meant specifically the F20/21/22/23, but you knew that.

No, I didn't because it still makes no sense. F2x 1-er and 2-er have not been superseded by a G anything yet... so which "G cars are just the worst possible thing BMW could have done"?

 

[DriveSpark]

I used g - to mean the next generation, so just to make clear for you:

The next genenration of 1 & 2 series cars are the worst thing BMW could have done.

Happy now ?