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Don't know if PD/Kaz would regret making these two trophies, now we know if they dedicate development resources for those 1.7% players ... /s
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Don't know if PD/Kaz would regret making these two trophies, now we know if they dedicate development resources for those 1.7% players ... /s
I earned the Platinum in GTS which required something like 91 race wins in Sport mode. Had to manipulate my rating to eventually get all those wins.
At least this time you only have to enter. But it does show just how few are interested in Sport mode in its current form.
I’d certainly check it out if there was some kind of casual hopper race. Especially if in conjunction with a reasonable credit payout.
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I find it amusing that so many people miss the point being made here. It's not that the esports players represent the community or anything like that. It's that esports and online play is clearly important to Kaz and PD. Kaz said publicly a few years ago that esports is the future of the franchise. They use the World Tour and champions to promote the game. There's a reason why they included World Tour players in the offline content. Despite the fact that most player care about the single player/offline content, the online stuff really matters to them. They are definitely going to notice this.
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To me this suggests things are going to stay quite bad for a while. If Gallo thought things were going to be better soon he’d stick around and stay quiet. I assume these top players (is Gallo in the feedback group?) have been liaising with PD since the game launched, so they more than any of us must be getting a feeling for how PD’s coping and what kind of timescales we’re talking.
And I personally have mixed feelings about it anyway; like others here I’m mostly wanting PD to get offline SP expanded ASAP, even if online has to wait, but SP doesn’t really have high-profile advocates like the top drivers and YouTubers who can pressure PD. Unless the sheer player numbers do the talking.
And I personally have mixed feelings about it anyway; like others here I’m mostly wanting PD to get offline SP expanded ASAP, even if online has to wait, but SP doesn’t really have high-profile advocates like the top drivers and YouTubers who can pressure PD. Unless the sheer player numbers do the talking.
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Maybe only 1.7% of players (on PS4 anyway) are doing less than 50 races is because of how bad it is? That stat is a double-edged sword.
I don't think saying that only 1.7% of people who bought the game compete in Sport mode is entirely fair. Even though it's technically true, many people probably want to play more Sport mode, but after 10 races of getting punted off track they say to hell with it and stop playing. I bet if the system was better, more people would be playing it. At least I'd like to think so. Some of the more die hard players on this forum are bailing on Sport mode, so the casual player doesn't stand much a chance.
You're aware the game crashes when people are playing in the GTWS races, right?
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Right, and that's a fair point too. I would've hoped, that if 14.5% tried it, then a lot more than 1.7% would stick to it. I think the fact that Sport mode is currently in ruins has a lot to do with that delta.
If I remember, I'll look up the PS5 numbers next time I'm on.
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A piece of Italian press is picking it up. It maybe just a "tweets-to-news" pipeline, but it's press.
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I don't see this as being of any impact to PD. If they're working on fixes, which they quite likely are, someone publicly announcing that they're taking a break won't change that.
If anything, Kaz may take it as a personal insult. As far as Japanese culture is concerned, Kaz and PD invited Gallo to be a World Tour racer, they put him on a global stage and have funded him through race winnings. For him to publicly snub them instead of doing it quietly or directly, privately letting Kaz/PD know, can be seen as quite the insult to Kaz's honor. Gallo may never be invited to another series because of it.
And that brings in the next point - eSports is a business. You have to cycle contenders to keep it fresh, otherwise it's the same racers racing the same races again and again. If Gallo wants to step down, okay... That's one spot now open for someone else to come in. And these aren't the de facto fastest racers in the world, they're just some of the fastest that decided to "go pro". There are plenty more that are just as fast, if not faster, that are waiting for their chance, and to them, their chance just came.
If anything, Kaz may take it as a personal insult. As far as Japanese culture is concerned, Kaz and PD invited Gallo to be a World Tour racer, they put him on a global stage and have funded him through race winnings. For him to publicly snub them instead of doing it quietly or directly, privately letting Kaz/PD know, can be seen as quite the insult to Kaz's honor. Gallo may never be invited to another series because of it.
And that brings in the next point - eSports is a business. You have to cycle contenders to keep it fresh, otherwise it's the same racers racing the same races again and again. If Gallo wants to step down, okay... That's one spot now open for someone else to come in. And these aren't the de facto fastest racers in the world, they're just some of the fastest that decided to "go pro". There are plenty more that are just as fast, if not faster, that are waiting for their chance, and to them, their chance just came.
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Also I just wondered: Could there be any other FIAGTC/GTWS superstars joining his picket line?
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Not sure how much attention it will get, but at least mildly embarrassing for PD when stuff like this starts to happen.
Listened to a podcast with Gallo being interviewed the other week and he talked about his passion, love for the series and how much time/effort he put in to get to the top. I doubt its a decision he took lightly.
Listened to a podcast with Gallo being interviewed the other week and he talked about his passion, love for the series and how much time/effort he put in to get to the top. I doubt its a decision he took lightly.
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The thread title is a bit misleading I think. Gallo said he's "taking a break" from GT7, which is quite different from "quitting".
While I'm happy to see more big names taking a stand publicly against PD and the state of the game, Gallo's tweet on its own really doesn't explain much. What issue exactly is it that is causing him to take his stance on GT7? The unstable multiplayer? Broken penalties? Joke of a tyre model and FFB? MR race cars handling terribly? PD's vague at best communication? Or is it something as simple as PD assigning his name and face to an AI that doesn't follow the same physics and rules as the player, and actively rams them?
Unless Gallo's outburst has directly resulted from Gallo being dissatisfied with the outcome of private conversations between himself and the staff at PD, his tweet is as vague and useful as PD's promises to the playerbase—neither is of much use.
While I'm happy to see more big names taking a stand publicly against PD and the state of the game, Gallo's tweet on its own really doesn't explain much. What issue exactly is it that is causing him to take his stance on GT7? The unstable multiplayer? Broken penalties? Joke of a tyre model and FFB? MR race cars handling terribly? PD's vague at best communication? Or is it something as simple as PD assigning his name and face to an AI that doesn't follow the same physics and rules as the player, and actively rams them?
Unless Gallo's outburst has directly resulted from Gallo being dissatisfied with the outcome of private conversations between himself and the staff at PD, his tweet is as vague and useful as PD's promises to the playerbase—neither is of much use.
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he got his spot not because he have pretty eyes but because he won quals btw
and u keep talking like he is some random guy that got invited from the street and should now bow to polyphony no matter what
this statement is really good, finally someone with balls that isn't scared to tell something
this is so lacking in todays "influencer" world, also in simracing
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I'd play online more if the racing was fairer, but it's just a crash fest for me most of the time. Only 10% of the races feel like races
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I'm not sure that having pretty eyes has anything to do with being invited to compete on the World Tour circuit, as I sure didn't imply that was why he got the spot. My point was that he was offered a spot and took it. Plenty of other racers were offered and declined. There are plenty of racers that have emerged since that haven't been offered a spot, and those are the racers that PD could easily bring in to replace Gallo.
And I'm not saying he has to bow to PD, he can walk away if he wants to.
In Japanese culture, you have to be very respectful to people around you, especially if someone gives you an opportunity to do better in life, like giving you a platform to compete on a global scale and earn a lot of money doing so. PD provided that platform to a select few people. What would have been "correct" and respectful would have been to privately reach out to state that he is not going to compete anymore until the game is improved. Publicly stating it brings dishonor to Kaz and PD, and given that he would not have his status without them, is actually very disrespectful in their culture.
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Surely Kaz’s position in life is due to the people that bought his product. Goes both ways.
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Perhaps I know less about how the system works, but I don't know how many other people were "offered" the position aside from those that qualified based on their performance (points received) in the necessary races. His results, based on the rules determined by PD, were what got him his spot. I would assume that should he have qualified but been arbitrarily denied a position that there would be significant questions into the legitimacy of the championship itself.
Also, yes, Japanese culture is not the same as that of the US/UK/Italy/etc., but I think you may be overblowing the whole "honor" and "face" concepts that are so often brought up whenever it comes to Asian cultures. It's really not too different from the idea of "biting the hand that feeds you" in other cultures, which I really don't see that being an issue here (again, since the "offered" position is based on performance results rather than favoritism).
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they earn **** from these events btw and this just shows me that you have no clue what you talking about
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And if he quietly didn't show up to the next events and people asked him why, what's he supposed to say? Make up an excuse? In some cultures, honesty is valued.
I think it would be best for all if we stopped putting words into peoples mouths. Sometimes people just have a bad day and sound off on social media. Sometimes people have other life commitments and step away for a time.
There’ll be another line-up of players at the next finals. Some old faces, some new.
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Kaz was able to eat before Gran Turismo. I’m sure he’d still find a way to put food on the table, without this franchise. This game is his vision. He owes the buyers nothing. It’s we who choose to buy this product. I haven’t bought shares in Polyphony Digital and I’m not on board meetings. Entertainment is always a one way street. We can make our own entertainment. As buyers, we choose to purchase things we don’t really need.
I can see if it‘s like a baseball game or a race series. People need to buy tickets and shirts and food to keep a stadium open. This is purely a one time transaction type of scenario. Not like Sony will vanish, if no one buys another Gran Turismo game.
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Would you put it past them?
It’s the kind of thing they’ll think is a major concern and concentrate on, rather than the litany of other issues.
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For sure, but it’s not like a Bus Service or Hospital service. This is a luxury. The naming of this game “as a service”, that’s hogwash. I can understand the therapy in certain entertainment. However, Gran Turismo is not a necessity.
