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To be fair, they have said once or maybe twice or so before.
Brexit - The UK leaves the EU
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Hey man, I called Brexit not happening, and it's kinda gone how I expected... hoping I get to call that last bit too
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It was always a possibility, and has been suggested by various people - but to my knowledge this is the first time the EU top brass have explicitly said it publicly.To be fair, they have said once or maybe twice or so before.
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Couldn't decide if this was Funny/Strange News Stories... but decided that prepping is only really new to Britain 
Man spends £650 at Tesco in drunken Brexit panic shop.
Man spends £650 at Tesco in drunken Brexit panic shop.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ay-speech-delay-deal-latest-a8830991.html?amp
That's hard brexit then.
That's hard brexit then.
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Well, it is now official.
Donald Tusk has officially announced that a short extension to Article 50 will be conditional upon the Withdrawal Agreement being accepted.
That means there must now be a third vote on the Withdrawal Agreement before Friday next week, and it must be passed - otherwise it is No Deal.
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Theresa May is meeting all opposition leaders in Downing Street tonight, presumably to spell out the fact that there will now certainly be No Deal unless they vote in favour of the deal.
Labour and other opposition MPs will now have to face facts and admit that it really is now either May's deal or No Deal.
Donald Tusk has officially announced that a short extension to Article 50 will be conditional upon the Withdrawal Agreement being accepted.
That means there must now be a third vote on the Withdrawal Agreement before Friday next week, and it must be passed - otherwise it is No Deal.
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Theresa May is meeting all opposition leaders in Downing Street tonight, presumably to spell out the fact that there will now certainly be No Deal unless they vote in favour of the deal.
Labour and other opposition MPs will now have to face facts and admit that it really is now either May's deal or No Deal.
...or No Brexit
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Or they can can all just grow some spines and revoke Article 50 as a stupid idea from the very start.
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Which has always been the case in reality. A lot of politicians just needed it pointing out to them.
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However, it is not at all clear how revoking Article 50 can be done before next Friday...
Theresa May was reportedly ready to resign if MPs 'forced' her to seek a long (e.g. 2 year) extension to Article 50, let alone possibly revoke it.
May's resignation would make it virtually impossible to revoke Article 50, irrespective of any votes in the House of Commons that may call for such action to be taken. It is not clear how it could be done without a new pro-Remain Prime Minister in place.
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He seemingly opposes anything that might thrust the mantle of power upon him. He's watched Gove and Johnson carefully and realised that there's nothing worse than winning when you a) don't expect it, and b) don't have the capacity to fulfil any promises.
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Jacob Rees-Mogg/Nigel Farage/Boris Johnson: We want hard Brexit!
Jeremy Corbyn: Hold my beer....
Jeremy Corbyn: Hold my beer....
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Is this where empowered gammon leavers get to start purging everyone who doesn't look quite gammon enough...
Are there any foreigners in the theater tonight?
Get them up against the wall
There's one in the spotlight, he don't look right to me
Get him up against the wall
That one looks Polish!
And that one's a Turk!
Who let all of this riff-raff into the room?
There's one smoking a Carpați!
And another with dreadlocks!
If I had my way
I'd have all of you shot!
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It is an embarrassment for the UK - but it is also a shameful failure of the entire Article 50 process, and by that measure the EU must also take their share of the blame.
I have great sympathy for Theresa May - a Prime Minister is meant to lead and to be decisive... but that is rather hard given that the MPs who she is relying on to support her, regardless of political affiliation, have managed to agree to absolutely nothing between them and have never come up with any better ideas that what May has delivered. The EU have said as nauseum that this is not only the best deal possible, but it is the only deal possible. May should be given tremendous credit for getting to this point, but, alas, it is not (and was possibly never going to be) good enough for many MPs - not because she doesn't know what she wants (she obviously does), but because the rest of Parliament is so bitterly divided/deluded. I can totally understand her frustration with MPs who think they could have done a better job - but the chances are they could not have.
I reckon - by hook or by crook - May's deal will pass next week, as Corbyn and his idiot party finally realise that they are playing petty party political games with the biggest issue of our times, and concentrate now on the next phase of negotiations - the all-important 'future relationship' talks, which will be even more shambolic and difficult than the Withdrawal Agreement debacle (if you can even believe that!) and try to get a Brexit that will not seriously damage the UK or hasten the collapse of the EU.
That said, it is becoming more and more apparent that the EU's failure to discuss the future relationship at all is the main reason why Article 50 has failed, and for that they deserve enormous criticism. One might even conclude that this has been their Grand Plan all along - to thwart democracy and to protect 'The Great Project' at all costs. The UK's vote to leave the EU was a historic moment - but, I suspect, if it turns out to be in vain, it could be historic for all the wrong reasons.
I have great sympathy for Theresa May - a Prime Minister is meant to lead and to be decisive... but that is rather hard given that the MPs who she is relying on to support her, regardless of political affiliation, have managed to agree to absolutely nothing between them and have never come up with any better ideas that what May has delivered. The EU have said as nauseum that this is not only the best deal possible, but it is the only deal possible. May should be given tremendous credit for getting to this point, but, alas, it is not (and was possibly never going to be) good enough for many MPs - not because she doesn't know what she wants (she obviously does), but because the rest of Parliament is so bitterly divided/deluded. I can totally understand her frustration with MPs who think they could have done a better job - but the chances are they could not have.
I reckon - by hook or by crook - May's deal will pass next week, as Corbyn and his idiot party finally realise that they are playing petty party political games with the biggest issue of our times, and concentrate now on the next phase of negotiations - the all-important 'future relationship' talks, which will be even more shambolic and difficult than the Withdrawal Agreement debacle (if you can even believe that!) and try to get a Brexit that will not seriously damage the UK or hasten the collapse of the EU.
That said, it is becoming more and more apparent that the EU's failure to discuss the future relationship at all is the main reason why Article 50 has failed, and for that they deserve enormous criticism. One might even conclude that this has been their Grand Plan all along - to thwart democracy and to protect 'The Great Project' at all costs. The UK's vote to leave the EU was a historic moment - but, I suspect, if it turns out to be in vain, it could be historic for all the wrong reasons.
Petition for No-Brexit passes the half a million mark.
Though it's worth noting that a petition for another referendum gained I think around 4 million signatures (I've read comments to that affect but can't find a direct link to the petition) before being largely ignored by Parliament.
Though it's worth noting that a petition for another referendum gained I think around 4 million signatures (I've read comments to that affect but can't find a direct link to the petition) before being largely ignored by Parliament.
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