Brexit - The UK leaves the EU
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There's no point in signing it either. We had a referendum. There was a result. There was a General Election. That was the chance to correct the mistake. It wasn't taken. We have got what we deserve. That's democracy. All we need to complete the piece is the Clown as PM and hard Brexit. (Which is the default regardless of whether anyone wants it to happen or not.)
I don’t think that’s really true.
The general election was a mess and the only real party rejecting Brexit was the Lib Dem’s... and the only reason they ever got into power was because the leader came across like a nice headmaster on TV.
These petitions I think, empower MP’s on a certain leaning. If you can show 6m people agree with my stance on Brexit (out of a choice of 8 for example) it gives your opinion a little more power/sway. But who knows, I guess only time will tell (long time) if the petition to cancel Brexit actually influenced anything, or the second vote march or the leave march... it’s such a cluster-**** from start to finish
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Who better to turn a soft Brexit into a hard one than BJ...
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Which could explain why there are some ten million signatures missing (assuming that remain voters still want to remain, and leave voters still want to leave).
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Some anagrams of 'Brexit Day':
Betray Dix
Brady Exit
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Be ERG, jogs coma.
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Happy Brexit da... Oh.
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Hence forth, March 29th will be known as "Rant about the government even more than usual on social media day".
Please refrain from such cynicism. Today is the day when finally one side can replace the leader of a country with their own! Removing the incumbent allowing their own careers, power and wealth to swell.... waaaiiittt-
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I've seen his name succinctly anagrammed as "Ogre Smeg".
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MPs have voted down the Withdrawal Agreement for a third time... the result was 286-344, a majority of 58.
Many Eurosceptic MPs (including Dominic Raab, Jacob Rees-Mogg and even Boris Johnson) all voted for the Withdrawal Agreement, but the DUP remained unconvinced, and Labour have once again voted to block Brexit.
Given that all forms of Brexit require the Withdrawal Agreement to be accepted, one can now only assume that Labour formally support reversing the referendum result.
Many Eurosceptic MPs (including Dominic Raab, Jacob Rees-Mogg and even Boris Johnson) all voted for the Withdrawal Agreement, but the DUP remained unconvinced, and Labour have once again voted to block Brexit.
Given that all forms of Brexit require the Withdrawal Agreement to be accepted, one can now only assume that Labour formally support reversing the referendum result.
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So, two weeks to no deal then.
At least 630 MPs showed up this time - 3.3% absence is more reasonable than the 25% they've been cracking on at recently.
Incidentally, Chuka Umunna's breakaway "Independent Group" has decided it wants to be a political party under the name "Change UK - The Independent Group". Change.org is reportedly unamused.
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Their the manifesto said something other than that though didn't it?
We'd better start hiring some customs staff. Fast.
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In many respects, today’s result (and Labour’s continuing stupidity) prove that Theresa May’s strategy is working.
She has already overcome one seemingly insurmountable obstacle - the main bloc of Eurosceptics within her own party... and, as the idiot Corbyn pointed out yet again (without realising how much it actually lends weight to May’s argument) without changing a single word of the Withdrawal Agreement. All May really needs to do now is strike a deal with the EU to basically refuse to extend Article 50 any longer, thus leaving her free to bring back her deal for one last vote on April 10th, which will be a straight choice between her deal and No deal. It would be a tremendous gamble, but it would probably be harsh enough a prospect for 30 or more Labour MPs to change their minds.
She has already overcome one seemingly insurmountable obstacle - the main bloc of Eurosceptics within her own party... and, as the idiot Corbyn pointed out yet again (without realising how much it actually lends weight to May’s argument) without changing a single word of the Withdrawal Agreement. All May really needs to do now is strike a deal with the EU to basically refuse to extend Article 50 any longer, thus leaving her free to bring back her deal for one last vote on April 10th, which will be a straight choice between her deal and No deal. It would be a tremendous gamble, but it would probably be harsh enough a prospect for 30 or more Labour MPs to change their minds.
...this doesn't sound like the Tory Party I know...
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Coming out of St Thomas' I saw a heavy police presence and road diversions at Westminster - I thought it was only Farage's rally or are there counter protests being planned?
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It is staggering just how party-political the result is - only 5 Labour MPs voted in favour of the WA.
Brexit necessarily had to be (and was) a negotiation between the UK Government and the EU - it was never a negotiation that involved Labour, but unfortunately it is now being blocked by those who believe they should have had the power to negotiate with the EU. The fact is, thought, that it wouldn't have made one iota of difference who was in charge of negotiations with the EU... the Withdrawal Agreement would almost certainly have turned out exactly the same. Hence why I cannot fathom why Labour - whose stated policy is to leave the EU with a deal - are blocking it out of hand.
And now the pro-Brexit protests have started.
Brexit necessarily had to be (and was) a negotiation between the UK Government and the EU - it was never a negotiation that involved Labour, but unfortunately it is now being blocked by those who believe they should have had the power to negotiate with the EU. The fact is, thought, that it wouldn't have made one iota of difference who was in charge of negotiations with the EU... the Withdrawal Agreement would almost certainly have turned out exactly the same. Hence why I cannot fathom why Labour - whose stated policy is to leave the EU with a deal - are blocking it out of hand.
And now the pro-Brexit protests have started.
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Because Labour leadership is entirely ineffective at making pragmatic decisions. It is both empowered and undermined by the party members democratic shaping of party policy.
Some more footage of the friendly and peaceful Leave protests outside Parliament today
Warning: Leavers are rude too!
It’s all very similar to the anti-Brexit protest that attracted some million people...
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Vote Leave drops it’s appeal over the breaking of electoral law;
Vote Leave now agrees with the conclusion that they broke the law and ran a dishonest and illegal campaign.
So when ever anyone asks you to respect the result, remember that one side literally broke the law in order to win by the tinniest of margins,
Vote Leave now agrees with the conclusion that they broke the law and ran a dishonest and illegal campaign.
So when ever anyone asks you to respect the result, remember that one side literally broke the law in order to win by the tinniest of margins,
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Labour are playing a very dangerous game by pushing for an election when a) they are largely responsible for thwarting Brexit and b) they still cannot say whether they are in favour of remaining inside or leaving the EU! A Labour MP on BBC Breakfast News this morning was just asked whether Labour would fight a General Election on the basis of 'Remain' or 'Leave' and she said that she couldn't say either way... seriously...
Even after one considers the number of constituencies that may have changed from Leave to Remain since the referendum, that still leaves some 288 seats in favour of leaving the EU - down from 406 in the original referendum. Note, however, that this figure is based on an analysis that may or may not reflect what would happen in the event of another vote or a General Election fought on the basis of the referendum.
A Parliamentary majority requires 326 seats, though the current government got only 317 seats and (infamously) are propped up by 10 DUP MPs. Labour, on the other hand, got 262 seats. But, of those seats, ~160 voted to Leave. Even after taking into consideration a possible 30% drop in support for Leave, that still leaves some 114 Labour seats in favour of a policy that Labour themselves cannot commit to. It also leaves over 170 Tory seats vulnerable to protest votes for their abject failure to deliver Brexit of any type.
The Tories are likely to be destroyed by Brexit, but Labour could also be utterly decimated at the polls too. UKIP and/or Nigel Farage's 'Brexit' party could easily win a large number of seats - hopefully nothing like the 288 Leave supporting seats, but I reckon it could be easily over 100... maybe considerably more. It's impossible to say, but I reckon that Labour and Tory support will both be seriously damaged. Worse still is the prospect that Brexit supporting parties such as UKIP and the Brexit party could easily hold the balance of power in Parliament for years to come.
Even after one considers the number of constituencies that may have changed from Leave to Remain since the referendum, that still leaves some 288 seats in favour of leaving the EU - down from 406 in the original referendum. Note, however, that this figure is based on an analysis that may or may not reflect what would happen in the event of another vote or a General Election fought on the basis of the referendum.
A Parliamentary majority requires 326 seats, though the current government got only 317 seats and (infamously) are propped up by 10 DUP MPs. Labour, on the other hand, got 262 seats. But, of those seats, ~160 voted to Leave. Even after taking into consideration a possible 30% drop in support for Leave, that still leaves some 114 Labour seats in favour of a policy that Labour themselves cannot commit to. It also leaves over 170 Tory seats vulnerable to protest votes for their abject failure to deliver Brexit of any type.
The Tories are likely to be destroyed by Brexit, but Labour could also be utterly decimated at the polls too. UKIP and/or Nigel Farage's 'Brexit' party could easily win a large number of seats - hopefully nothing like the 288 Leave supporting seats, but I reckon it could be easily over 100... maybe considerably more. It's impossible to say, but I reckon that Labour and Tory support will both be seriously damaged. Worse still is the prospect that Brexit supporting parties such as UKIP and the Brexit party could easily hold the balance of power in Parliament for years to come.
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