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Dotini is either quoting my dating profile, or perhaps referring to the Jonestown massacre.
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Brexit - The UK leaves the EU
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Dotini is either quoting my dating profile, or perhaps referring to the Jonestown massacre.
edit: Tree'd by Danoff.
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Some people die from living too much. Perhaps you are killing yourselves with democracy?I'll be honest, I'm quite lost.
Thank you @Danoff for showing me Kool Aid (and @MatskiMonk for pointing out Sperm Man), I'm none the wiser. It's been a long week
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I feel sorry for the British people. What's going on with brexit is a failure of democracy 
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What is going on with Brexit is the result of allowing your countries policies and border laws and security and economic international trade deals to be set and controlled by sources outside of your own borders and others that are not citizens of your own country with your countries best interest at the forefront to begin with!I feel sorry for the British people. What's going on with brexit is a failure of democracy
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We voted for our representatives in that parliament. By removing those representatives we've given control to an unelected House that has no requirement to live in this country or even turn up for many votes. We lose the ability to have our representatives in trade negotiations and we lose our veto on the decisions taken by the European trading bloc.
We always had control of some border policies, passport colour and many other local policies, parliament just chose not to exercise them. As it is three of our countries are ruled by a parliament outside their own country, that's something that Brexit doesn't change.
Remind me again how closing ourselves off improves things for anybody other than the ruling class?
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You must now look inward and know yourselves for who you truly are. It's hopefully going to provide a bracing, stimulating and rewarding challenge to all families and working people. It will demand taking responsibility, concentrating purpose, and finding meaning in work and in life. It is a gift. A gift that keeps on giving.
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When a vote to your countries policy results in the changes voted for and are not being vetoed or overruled by powers that do not have your best countries best interest at heart nor can your countries citizens override their decisions without serious repercussions because you granted those outside powers that power and control to begin with.
I would think that a country like Germany that was invading Europe and attempted to take power by force some 70 odd years ago and was defeated with help from an overseas nation that now has one of the votes and the power to affect your nations policies with diplomatic power that your nation handed them on a silver platter that goes against apparently the direction of control what your nations actual citizens voted for would be a reminder enough that you do not give the power to control YOUR COUNTRY to foreign powers period!
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You make some big leaps of faith there. You want us to give control to a place that isn't elected instead of a place where we elect the members? And you're okay with several countries doing that for a government that sits in a foreign country and whose members largely come from a foreign country?
That's mixed up.
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Whaaa … so what you're saying is that you never should share power and have economic integration with a formerly belligerant neighbour, even if culturally, geopolitically and socially you are very close to them?
You look like one of those people frozen in time and continually asking for countries' apologies over centuries old events.
Taking your post literally I'd say north americans should never ever trust the states of South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, and Texas and - even less - Grant them equal status inside the USA political system. I know the civil war happened more than 70 years ago but you can't be too careful in these matters can you?
And now I'm off, have to declare war on Spain, been a few centuries since last time we did it ...
You look like one of those people frozen in time and continually asking for countries' apologies over centuries old events.
Taking your post literally I'd say north americans should never ever trust the states of South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, and Texas and - even less - Grant them equal status inside the USA political system. I know the civil war happened more than 70 years ago but you can't be too careful in these matters can you?
And now I'm off, have to declare war on Spain, been a few centuries since last time we did it ...
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Interesting piece in he Guardian. I know a few people who don't like 'Comrade Corbyn', but would happily vote Brexit Party...
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...taken-root-in-britain-look-at-islington-north
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...taken-root-in-britain-look-at-islington-north
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The situation has begun to liquify. All things become possible when mythology blurs into reality. Shouldn't this thread be taken to the Conspiracy thread??
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I always thought the expression 'drinking the Kool-Aid' was a reference to this...
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The Liberal Democrats have pledged to revoke Article 50 if they win a majority in a General Election, but that was also coupled with a commitment to not form a coalition with Labour...
With the Lib Dems not on board with an interim Government led by Corbyn, doesn't that leave open the possibility that Johnson could decide to bring down his own government in the knowledge that an interim government within 14 days would be virtually impossible?
If Johnson doesn't get a deal agreed and voted through Parliament before 18th October, then he may have no other choice but to bring down his own Government in the hope that the opposition fail to get their act together, thus triggering a General Election - perhaps more importantly though, it would also virtually guarantee a No Deal Brexit, as there would be no Government in place to oppose it.
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The Liberal Democrats have pledged to revoke Article 50 if they win a majority in a General Election, but that was also coupled with a commitment to not form a coalition with Labour...
With the Lib Dems not on board with an interim Government led by Corbyn, doesn't that leave open the possibility that Johnson could decide to bring down his own government in the knowledge that an interim government within 14 days would be virtually impossible?
If Johnson doesn't get a deal agreed and voted through Parliament before 18th October, then he may have no other choice but to bring down his own Government in the hope that the opposition fail to get their act together, thus triggering a General Election - perhaps more importantly though, it would also virtually guarantee a No Deal Brexit, as there would be no Government in place to oppose it.
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The EU has voted to allow an Article 50 extension, should Johnson survive his ditch and make the request.
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When walking past the graveyard, it's best to whistle a cheery tune.
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Thanks god, I thought for a moment there Shepherds Bush might have run out of part time bar staff!
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If Scott Morrison says Trans-Tasman is unique, would that suggest that this is something that could be rejected by Australia once it gets to the actual talking stage?
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The Telegraph and Sky News are reporting that Jean-Claude Juncker, the President of the European Commission, has received a proposed 'new deal' from the UK Government, based around a new agreement that would require NI to follow EU rules on food and agriculture and to implement new customs checks away from the Irish border.
Juncker described his meeting with Johnson this week as 'positive' and said "We can have a deal". He also appeared to criticize press reporting that cast their meeting in a negative light.
I reckon this is a HUGE development... it indicates that the UK Government and the DUP have likely come to an agreement that would see the major sticking point with the previous Brexit deal removed. If this is true, then it bodes well for the chances of a deal.
Juncker described his meeting with Johnson this week as 'positive' and said "We can have a deal". He also appeared to criticize press reporting that cast their meeting in a negative light.
I reckon this is a HUGE development... it indicates that the UK Government and the DUP have likely come to an agreement that would see the major sticking point with the previous Brexit deal removed. If this is true, then it bodes well for the chances of a deal.
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Yes, May's hands were tied while the DUP held her in majority. Johnson has no such worries, the days of a majority are far behind him. Northern Ireland will, by default, get the Remain it voted for but Scotland will not. Interesting times ahead.
