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Tim Farron has stepped down as leader of the Liberal Democrats. Vince Cable to take over?
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Wouldn't rule out the return of Vince Cable having something to do with it either - he's been accused of orchestrating a leadership coup before.
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I said that! I said that!
With nary a whisper and the swish of a cloak Uncle Vince will be in power before you can say "who turned the lights out?".
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^^^ The Beebs is reporting the person is already arrested which is a bit of good news. Hopefully no serious injuries.
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In a reverse of what I was thinking earlier it seems that a van was deliberately driven into a crowd of worshippers outside the Finsbury Park mosque.
Hopefully so. Unfortunately eyewitness reports suggest that there may be some fatalities. BBC.
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The most disturbing thing is the suggestion that this is some kind of retaliatory attack. If true, this isn't going to end well.
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Assuming this is a retaliatory attack, I hope this isn't put on mental illness. Because it isn't. It's a terrorist attack like the others.
What would annoy me even more is that if it is "mental illness," nothing will change in that area.
What would annoy me even more is that if it is "mental illness," nothing will change in that area.
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It's not mental illness? So you know this guy personally?
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I'm not one for taking notes out of the atheists' handbook, but I think it takes a certain degree of mental illness to drive a truck into innocent pedestrians because of an extreme religious conviction, or whatever this guy's motives are.
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Questions are already being asked as to whether the Finsbury Park attack has been treated differently to the Borough Market attack:
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-19/was-attack-on-muslim-community-treated-differently/8632454
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-19/was-attack-on-muslim-community-treated-differently/8632454
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BBC radio reports Finsbury to be a terrorist revenge attack. Cycles of terror and revenge between dissimilar communities living in the same place. The mosques will organize their own protective services supplanting police from the impossible role of separating the cultures, a representative of the mosque said. The radio report cited polls suggesting diversity was becoming a big problem. The symbolic conflict of the local football matches were not enough to scratch the itches.
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If it looks like a duck, smells like a duck, walks like a duck. It's a duck.
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Really.
Or at least I heard it on the BBC radio report from a representative of the mosque at the scene. The BBC announcers cited disturbing polls suggesting diversity was becoming a serious problem. It no longer seems tenable to blame these burgeoning problems on isolated individuals, or murderous idiots as you say. It's a widespread, deep-seated cultural problem, and it's growing worse, they suggest.
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In Defence of the police, until they were able to take witness statements it would appear to be a traffic incident.
It would have quickly become clear that there was intent, but this attack didn't include any follow up attack with knives or guns.
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Likely so. We don't know the killer's motives though, this is a fact that depends on finding the killer's motive rather than stating what it appears to be.
Radicalisation to the point of murderous violence is the deep-seated problem albeit nowhere near as widespread as the papers might like one to think.
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Whilst the police are treating this as a terrorist attack, this is procedure in the current climate. Do the current facts point towards it? Yes. Does that mean that the complete facts will affirm it? No.
Rental van, driven into a group of worshippers at a time when the mosque would be busy. Could be deliberate. But the van may have had a brake failure. Driver could have fallen asleep at the wheel. Until the information is released none of the public should assume it was 100% a terrorist attack until it is stated that it was.
My thoughts with those injured here, and across the country over the past few months, be it in an attack or a fire.
Rental van, driven into a group of worshippers at a time when the mosque would be busy. Could be deliberate. But the van may have had a brake failure. Driver could have fallen asleep at the wheel. Until the information is released none of the public should assume it was 100% a terrorist attack until it is stated that it was.
My thoughts with those injured here, and across the country over the past few months, be it in an attack or a fire.
