Britain - The Official Thread

[Touring Mars]

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex (Prince Harry and Meghan Markle) have announced that they are stepping down as ‘senior Royals’ and will now divide their time between the UK and the US, and aim to be ‘financially independent’ while continuing to support the Queen.

Very interesting move, but no doubt precipitated by the toxic media culture in the UK...

 

[ryzno]

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex (Prince Harry and Meghan Markle) have announced that they are stepping down as ‘senior Royals’ and will now divide their time between the UK and the US, and aim to be ‘financially independent’ while continuing to support the Queen.

Very interesting move, but no doubt precipitated by the toxic media culture in the UK...

Just more news to distract us.

 

[baldgye]

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex (Prince Harry and Meghan Markle) have announced that they are stepping down as ‘senior Royals’ and will now divide their time between the UK and the US, and aim to be ‘financially independent’ while continuing to support the Queen.

Very interesting move, but no doubt precipitated by the toxic media culture in the UK...

Didn’t Harry also kick off about his uncle(or whatever) being good chums with a pedophile?

 

[Famine]

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex (Prince Harry and Meghan Markle) have announced that they are stepping down as ‘senior Royals’ and will now divide their time between the UK and the US, and aim to be ‘financially independent’ while continuing to support the Queen.

Very interesting move, but no doubt precipitated by the toxic media culture in the UK...

Apparently they hadn't bothered discussing any of this with BuckHouse before announcing it...

 

[TenEightyOne]

Didn’t Harry also kick off about his uncle(or whatever) being good chums with a pedophile?

That's nothing, his father was arrested in possession of cocaine.

 

[baldgye]

That's nothing, his father was arrested in possession of cocaine.

Fool got caught!

 

[Dotini]

Obviously there is a certain amount of inequality between the royals and the others. Is this a source of pride for most, or a source of resentment?

 

[Liquid]

Before: Meghan is a sham who only wants to worm her way into the Royal family and be in the public eye

Now: Meghan is a snake because she doesn't want to be a Royal in the public eye

Classic English press.

 

[Joey D]

As an American, this is how I see it:

 

[Famine]

The half-time scores are now in, and it's British Monarchy 0, American Divorcees 2.

 

[Liquid]

Happy 3 year anniversary of Stormont being suspended and MLAs still getting paid.

 

[Bram Turismo]

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex (Prince Harry and Meghan Markle) have announced that they are stepping down as ‘senior Royals’ and will now divide their time between the UK and the US, and aim to be ‘financially independent’ while continuing to support the Queen.

Very interesting move, but no doubt precipitated by the toxic media culture in the UK...

The fact that people are wasting time and energy discussing this shows that none of us have any real problems to deal with.

How the hell is this the first headliner I hear on the radio in the morning at 7AM when driving to work...

 

[Dotini]

Does Boris have a trip to Washington, DC on his agenda?

 

[Touring Mars]

The fact that people are wasting time and energy discussing this shows that none of us have any real problems to deal with.

How the hell is this the first headliner I hear on the radio in the morning at 7AM when driving to work...

Consider yourself lucky...

The Telegraph is leading with no less than 10 articles on the subject this morning.

And in other news, cricket, Iran, cricket, Brexit, Australia and cricket.

 

[baldgye]

Consider yourself lucky...

The Telegraph is leading with no less than 10 articles on the subject this morning.

And in other news, cricket, Iran, cricket, Brexit, Australia and cricket.

Piers Morgan is furious and is also leading the Mail's hottest takes

 

[Liquid]

Piers Morgan is

obsessed.

 

[baldgye]

...Labour looks like they've learnt the lessons from the last two general elections... focusing on the things the population actually cares about, rather than playing to their base...

 

[UKMikey]

...Labour looks like they've learnt the lessons from the last two general elections... focusing on the things the population actually cares about, rather than playing to their base...

May I borrow @Liquid's Piccolo avatar for a sec?

 

[Tired Tyres]

Piers Morgan is furious and is also leading the Mail's hottest takes

If that ass hat hates something I'll like it. If he likes it I will hate it. I wonder how many of the people HE attacked when he was editor of the Mirror would agree.

 

[baldgye]

If that ass hat hates something I'll like it. If he likes it I will hate it. I wonder how many of the people HE attacked when he was editor of the Mirror would agree.

Yet ITV can’t help but put him on breakfast television

 

[andrea]

The more you read about the Monarchy, the more it seems that everyone is LARPing being Queens and Princes and now everyone in the guild is mad that Harry decided to hang up the chainmail and act like an independent adult.

 

[baldgye]

My Apple News timeline is also now FULL of anti-Megan stories. About how she’s stolen Harry etc... and people wonder why they want out?

 

[baldgye]

Via

 

[Liquid]

As a staunch anti-monarchist, dissension in the Royal family is usually something in which I can find plenty of schadenfreude. And I do find some. But on the other hand, this particular instance is quite galling given how Harry has essentially been hung out to dry for choosing his wife over his family.

It hasn't even been 5 minutes since Andrew being a nonce and having nonce friends was big news but apparently that's not the story that has brought "great shame" on them. It's so bizarre.

 

[Famine]

It hasn't even been 5 minutes since Andrew being a nonce and having nonce friends was big news

I haven't really kept up with the Prince Andrew thing, but am I right in saying that this girl he's supposed to have banged but was having pizza with his daughter in Woking instead apparently was 17 at the time?

I'm sure that she was there against her will and the whole Epstein/Maxwell/sex trafficking thing (and whether he knew about it) is its own subject, but a 17-year old is above the age of consent. If he didn't specifically coerce her and the person who did had not made the coercion clear to him, all it really says is that Prince Anhidrosis poked a legal-age girl thinking she was into him and his crown jewels.

 

[Liquid]

I haven't really kept up with the Prince Andrew thing, but am I right in saying that this girl he's supposed to have banged but was having pizza with his daughter in Woking instead apparently was 17 at the time?

I don't know if it's been established if it allegedly did or did not take place in the UK or the States, where 18 is the universal age of consent with Ts&Cs for ages below that.

I mean, that's the least of his problems, frankly. Even if he did have sex with someone who was at the age of consent in that jurisdiction, lying about it and conjouring the greatest tall-tale of all time of being medically unable to sweat and being on the back foot having stayed at the house of a known child sex offender because "it was the most convenient place" is hardly a less severe situation than Harry choosing to live a quieter life with his wife because of media harassment.

I know which one of those should be dominating the headlines, never mind the lack of Brexit deal news, Iran, Australia et al.

 

[baldgye]

As a staunch anti-monarchist, dissension in the Royal family is usually something in which I can find plenty of schadenfreude. And I do find some. But on the other hand, this particular instance is quite galling given how Harry has essentially been hung out to dry for choosing his wife over his family.

I'm pretty on the fence with regards to the Royal Family... but I don't see why Harry can't peace the **** out and earn a living himself.
That said, he isn't even doing anything that radical, he'll still be expected to carry out official duties, live in the grounds of Windsor Castle...

And this is on the back of the Press actively targeting and going after his wife. Bizarre that this is being labelled by the press as a threat to the royal family, but the queens son being intimately antiquated with a billionaire paedophile

 

[Famine]

I don't know if it's been established if it allegedly did or did not take place in the UK or the States, where 18 is the universal age of consent with Ts&Cs for ages below that.

The only one I recall was in London, but there may have been others. As I say, I've not been keeping up with it.

I mean, that's the least of his problems, frankly. Even if he did have sex with someone who was at the age of consent in that jurisdiction, lying about it and conjouring the greatest tall-tale of all time of being medically unable to sweat and being on the back foot having stayed at the house of a known child sex offender because "it was the most convenient place" is hardly a less severe situation than Harry choosing to live a quieter life with his wife because of media harassment.

It's not even that impressive a tall tale because it is self-evidently horse ****.

To be honest, I'm not that gripped by the Andrew thing. Wealthy old guy porks nubile girl doesn't twitch the needle of my shockometer - unless he knew she was coerced and trafficked, in which case burn him at the stake. I think he's just that naive to think girls want to **** a Prince because he's a Prince, and I'm not sure think Epstein was fully out as a nonce and nonce-enabler at that time (my timeline's a bit askew because I haven't kept up with it; this was 2001, Epstein's conviction was... 2007?).

If he hadn't tried to save face as a dirty old man who wouldn't dissuade a teenager from playing with the little Duke, he wouldn't be in this mess. "I didn't know about Epstein's underage hooker ring at the time because, as a Royal whose only experience of the real world was in the armed forces and come on that's not exactly a healthy ordinary environment, I'm horrifyingly naive and anyway, dude, she's 17. She's legal. We all would." would probably have got him scowled at by Her Maj, a slap from Fergie (I don't know, maybe he enjoys that sort of thing), and B&E would likely have been unimpressed, but he wouldn't be getting put on the sweaty nonce crucifix.

I'm pretty on the fence with regards to the Royal Family... but I don't see why Harry can't peace the **** out and earn a living himself.
That said, he isn't even doing anything that radical, he'll still be expected to carry out official duties, live in the grounds of Windsor Castle...

And this is on the back of the Press actively targeting and going after his wife. Bizarre that this is being labelled by the press as a threat to the royal family, but the queens son being intimately antiquated with a billionaire paedophile

In as much as it can, the Harry thing bothers me. From what I can gather, the tabloid press have been absolute cocks about Meghan - the Mail doing its usual thing of "we don't like this person because that's what we've decided"*, and for that matter about him when he was in Afghanistan by revealing where he was and thus making his colleagues a bigger target - and it's very easy to draw parallels with what happened to Diana... but...

My social circle doesn't exactly cross with his (although I went to school with one of his cousins-in-law), but from what I understand from those who've known or encountered him, this is not him. The phrase "**** blind" has been floated. Now I have some empathy with him at a lower level and kinda like the chap from what I know of him, so there's a reasonable chance that this is something he's been building up to for years and has just kept buried under the surface, and it's simply the case he's now got the opportunity to do it, or... it isn't. And, let's be honest, we have all seen guys who've changed - and changed their social circles - once there's a ring on her finger.

Ripping into the British tabloids is understandable and to be expected from someone who's grown up with cameras in his face that ended up killing his mum and putting his friends in harm's way. But moving to (Meghan's) Canada and scheduling a 'tell-all' interview with (Meghan's friend) Gayle King - on the US equivalent of whichever show it is Piers Morgan hosts over here (no TV Licence, can't watch, don't watch. Also wouldn't watch; one of the morning ones) - and courting the US tabloids seems a bit... dim.


Rumour has it Wills has let his own little Duke wander into one of Kate's besties. Kate has apparently decided that she will be Queen and will keep pumping out little Cambridges "no matter what" (in quotes for reasons of quotation), and thus they threw the American under the bus to keep the tabloids off the scent.

If this particular spat is true and continues, I don't think we'll have to wait long for the 'revelation' about one Prince's heritage...

*I was surprised to learn this week that she's "mixed-race" - and slightly more surprised that I actually learned that last year when Danny Baker got fired for the whole monkey thing, but had apparently forgotten. She's not obviously black, so my surprise would be further elevated if the entire tabloid press was against her on race grounds solely because she has a black parent (the Mail, maybe, but all of them?)... although not if it's because she's a foreigner.

 

[Liquid]

Rumour has it Wills has let his own little Duke wander into one of Kate's besties.

Wouldn't be the first heir to sow his royal oats beyond the farmland. Edward VII was called Dirty Bertie with good reason.

Edit: I know it's the Heil but it's quite amusing to refer to the Royal Family as The Firm, heavily implying them to be like the Mafia.

 

[PeterJB]

This is a way bigger news story than it should be. I'd get it if it was Will and Kate but unless they and their kids all die in a plane crash Harry won't be becoming king anytime soon. He's a lesser royal, do what you like.