Britain - The Official Thread

[UKMikey]

billionbibles.com... sounds legit.

Seems like I'm making the same arguments on two threads. Sharia courts don't replace British law and our courts wouldn't vote to allow this. They're simply not legal in this country and hopefully never will be so long as we're not a theocracy like those other countries you bring up. Your Al-Jazeera article does nothing to expand upon its sensational headline. Here's one which at least provides further analysis.

40% of British Muslims want Sharia Law - ICM

There was a new ICM poll of British Muslims in the Sunday Telegraph. The finding in the poll that got...

pollingreport.uk

There was a new ICM poll of British Muslims in the Sunday Telegraph. The finding in the poll that got the most coverage was a question that suggested that 40% of British Muslims supported "there being areas in Britain which are pre-dominately Muslim and in which sharia law is introduced". Since Western perceptions of sharia law tend to focus upon stoning adulterers, executing apostates and amputating the limbs of thieves reporting has tended to react with some horror. It's worth remembering though that respondents could be thinking of a far more limited use of sharia law

- until this month, for example, Ontario in Canada allowed the use of sharia law in civil disputes on things such as divorce, contract law and so on. I suspect respondents to ICM's survey were more likely to have been thinking of Muslim communities in the UK deciding cases of family and inheritance law on the basis of sharia, as opposed to stonings and beheadings in Brick Lane - though from the wording of the question it is impossible to tell.

To say "look how bad those brown countries are... it must be because of the same people who are coming in by the boatload rather than their system of government" is what sounds ignorant to me.

As such this really doesn't have a lot to do with Britain. If you want to scaremonger about Muslim immigrants, may I suggest the Islam thread? We're not going to become Saudi Arabia any time soon and have enough problems with the would be totalitarians who are actually in power without speculating on what immigrant communities may or may not do if they're ever allowed to gain it, thanks.

 

[MatskiMonk]

So am I a bigot or are you perhaps just ignorant? If you need more let me know, there's no shortage of news like these.
Oh and btw this is what happens in countries like UAE and Saudi Arabia, it's far worse in others like Iran, Sudan, Kuwait, Iraq, Pakistan and the list goes on.

UK Population religious demography shows 6% of the population are Muslim. Let's say 40% of those 6% want Sharia Law, that's 2.4%.

Laws in the UK are approved and amended by MP's. MP's are voted in by the population (of which 2.4% want Sharia law supposedly), and currently no mainstream party is suggesting introducing Sharia law. There's 3 constituencies that could achieve a majority vote based on religion out of 650 (assuming every Muslim in those areas voted for a pro-Sharia candidate, and even your own stats show there probably wouldn't be a majority). But let's say MP's did table it, and it was debated in Lords, Lords has 26 Lords Spiritual, all Church of England Arch Bishops and Bishops, who'd at least have a say, and then of course, laws require Royal Assent given by the King, the King in our case happens to also have 'Defender of the Faith and Supreme Governor of the Church of England' in his job description.

... so ... do you think Sharia law will happen in the Britain?

It's not going to happen, and you should ask yourself why people are trying to convince you it's a problem.

 

[UKMikey]

UK Population religious demography shows 6% of the population are Muslim. Let's say 40% of those 6% want Sharia Law, that's 2.4%.

Laws in the UK are approved and amended by MP's. MP's are voted in by the population (of which 2.4% want Sharia law supposedly), and currently no mainstream party is suggesting introducing Sharia law. There's 3 constituencies that could achieve a majority vote based on religion out of 650 (assuming every Muslim in those areas voted for a pro-Sharia candidate, and even your own stats show there probably wouldn't be a majority). But let's say MP's did table it, and it was debated in Lords, Lords has 26 Lords Spiritual, all Church of England Arch Bishops and Bishops, who'd at least have a say, and then of course, laws require Royal Assent given by the King, the King in our case happens to also have 'Defender of the Faith and Supreme Governor of the Church of England' in his job description.

... so ... do you think Sharia law will happen in the Britain?

It's not going to happen, and you should ask yourself why people are trying to convince you it's a problem.

We also don't know which aspects of Sharia the 2.4% want to introduce into UK law even in the highly unlikely event it would be on the table. Is it divorce arbitration or stonings and beheadings? The Torygraph's question didn't leave room for respondents to specify this as I said above.

 

[R55NA]

Anyone migrated from the UK to a European country since Brexit?

This country depresses me on a daily basis, and I would love to give it all up and move to Spain.

 

[Daz555]

Anyone migrated from the UK to a European country since Brexit?

This country depresses me on a daily basis, and I would love to give it all up and move to Spain.

Shame you didn't do this before 2021 I guess.......

But in terms of Spain - as long as you don't have any chronic health issues, no criminal record, and have a contract/offer for work in one of Spain's approved job types for immigrants, then yes you can move there from the UK.

 

[TheCracker]

Anyone migrated from the UK to a European country since Brexit?

This country depresses me on a daily basis, and I would love to give it all up and move to Spain.

I have some friends who are just in the process of moving to south west France. Depending on your general health and whether you have a job lined up or not etc, as @Daz555 says above, it's still pretty doable. They both work in the financial sector and work for themselves. The fact that they'll in effect be taking money from the British economy but then spending it and paying taxes in France means the french authorities are welcoming them with open arms.

 

[Touring Mars]

Boris Johnson to join GB News as presenter

Former PM likely to receive a six-figure sum for role at channel, which already features Jacob Rees-Mogg and Lee Anderson

www.theguardian.com

 

[Famine]

Boris Johnson to join GB News as presenter

Former PM likely to receive a six-figure sum for role at channel, which already features Jacob Rees-Mogg and Lee Anderson

www.theguardian.com

The man whose most commonly uttered phrase is "weyuhuhuhuhuhuhaieuhbburrbrrbrbrbrbrrbbrwywywyaiiih" is going to be a television presenter?

Who've they got lined up next, Rowley Birkin?

 

[EngieDiesel]

The man whose most commonly uttered phrase is "weyuhuhuhuhuhuhaieuhbburrbrrbrbrbrbrrbbrwywywyaiiih" is going to be a television presenter?

Who've they got lined up next, Rowley Birkin?

To be fair, from what I've seen of GB News he'll fit right in. The five minute clip I watched had the presenter and their guest discussing whether the quality of British schools would be affected by immigrants' children attending, I think, and they spent that entire time not so much having a conversation as they were saying words in each others' general direction without really trying to make a coherent point.

 

[Touring Mars]

Saying words ... without really trying to make a coherent point.

This should be the new Conservative Party slogan, but for the fact that it doesn't fit the 3 word Trumpian model.

Perhaps their best hope for the next election is to go Full Trump and say "STOP THE VOTES"

 

[DioEmsti]

UK Population religious demography shows 6% of the population are Muslim. Let's say 40% of those 6% want Sharia Law, that's 2.4%.

Laws in the UK are approved and amended by MP's. MP's are voted in by the population (of which 2.4% want Sharia law supposedly), and currently no mainstream party is suggesting introducing Sharia law. There's 3 constituencies that could achieve a majority vote based on religion out of 650 (assuming every Muslim in those areas voted for a pro-Sharia candidate, and even your own stats show there probably wouldn't be a majority). But let's say MP's did table it, and it was debated in Lords, Lords has 26 Lords Spiritual, all Church of England Arch Bishops and Bishops, who'd at least have a say, and then of course, laws require Royal Assent given by the King, the King in our case happens to also have 'Defender of the Faith and Supreme Governor of the Church of England' in his job description.

... so ... do you think Sharia law will happen in the Britain?

It's not going to happen, and you should ask yourself why people are trying to convince you it's a problem.

You are only looking at your immediate future.

Muslim Population Is Rapidly Increasing In The UK

The Muslim population in England and Wales has increased significantly in recent years. It is based on the Office For National Statistics (ONS) census,

theislamicinformation.com

"Referring to the census, Professor Linda Woodhead predicts Islam will continue to show strong growth in the UK. Unlike the results of the ONS census, Prof. Woodhead calculated that the Muslim population in England could have reached up to 8% now."

 

[MatskiMonk]

You are only looking at your immediate future.

******* lol.

1) You have no idea what I'm considering in my immediate future.

2) It doesn't matter, we do not live in a secular country, we do not have proportional representation, and we do not have a MP's voting for sharia law and 8% is no kind of majority in any situation.

The bigger threat to this country than Islam, is -* with no critical thinking skills being allowed to vote.

 

[Touring Mars]

Boris Johnson to join GB News as presenter

Former PM likely to receive a six-figure sum for role at channel, which already features Jacob Rees-Mogg and Lee Anderson

www.theguardian.com

Nigel Farage ‘giving very serious consideration’ to I’m a Celebrity … offer

Former Ukip leader said he was offered ‘substantial sums of money’ and would decide ‘within next 48 hours’

www.theguardian.com

Make it stop!

 

[TheCracker]

Nigel Farage ‘giving very serious consideration’ to I’m a Celebrity … offer

Former Ukip leader said he was offered ‘substantial sums of money’ and would decide ‘within next 48 hours’

www.theguardian.com

Make it stop!

Better they're in, avoidable, TV then in politics i say.

 

[HenrySwanson]

You are only looking at your immediate future.

Muslim Population Is Rapidly Increasing In The UK

The Muslim population in England and Wales has increased significantly in recent years. It is based on the Office For National Statistics (ONS) census,

theislamicinformation.com

"Referring to the census, Professor Linda Woodhead predicts Islam will continue to show strong growth in the UK. Unlike the results of the ONS census, Prof. Woodhead calculated that the Muslim population in England could have reached up to 8% now."

Yes there will be "strong growth".

No, England isn't going to turn Islamic.

Political ramifications can be felt, although this historically hasn't been limited to the UK nor only Muslim voters.

 

[Touring Mars]

I reckon they should call it Storm Rishi, as it will certainly stop the boats for a couple of days

 

[Fezzik]

Don't give them ideas, they would definitely take the credit.

 

[UKMikey]

Context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beergate

 

[HenrySwanson]

Bye bye Braverman

 

[Fezzik]

Flippin heck, the pig ****** is back!

Former PM David Cameron seen entering Downing Street amid re-shuffle

Former PM David Cameron has been seen entering Downing Street amid a government re-shuffle. This comes as Suella Braverman is sacked as home secretary. She was asked to leave the job this morning by Rishi Sunak.

news.sky.com

 

[HenrySwanson]

"Cleverly" is in as replacement

 

[Fezzik]

Flippin heck, the pig ****** is back!

Former PM David Cameron seen entering Downing Street amid re-shuffle

Former PM David Cameron has been seen entering Downing Street amid a government re-shuffle. This comes as Suella Braverman is sacked as home secretary. She was asked to leave the job this morning by Rishi Sunak.

news.sky.com

Gets a peerage so he can be in government. Very democratic. Taking back control from the unelected officials.

 

[Famine]

Is Braverman the first person to have ever both been both sacked from and resigned from the post of Home Secretary?

 

[Touring Mars]

Thérèse Coffey resigns as environment secretary...

Coffey had to be one of the single most witless and incompetent people in government in modern times, and she has had some pretty stiff competition.

 

[Liquid]

Gets a peerage so he can be in government. Very democratic. Taking back control from the unelected officials.

But we voted Brexit to get away from unelected, unaccountable politicians??

 

[HenrySwanson]

Thérèse Coffey resigns as environment secretary...

Coffey had to be one of the single most witless and incompetent people in government in modern times, and she has had some pretty stiff competition.

What are you talking about.

Usage of the Oxford comma was the major problem facing the NHS and look how well she dealt with it.

 

[TheCracker]

 

[Jimlaad43]

 

[Tired Tyres]

‘Shocking’ scale of UK government’s secret files on critics revealed

Dossiers were compiled by 15 departments after scouring social media activity to vet people invited to speak at official events

www.theguardian.com

Sunak could block Human Rights Act to force through Rwanda asylum plan

No 10 has discussed possibility of ‘disapplying’ key human rights law to emergency bill to head off legal challenges

www.theguardian.com

 

[Liquid]

The USSR won the ideological cold war.