Britain - The Official Thread
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Dotini
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But am I fabricating at all? I didn't and still don't think so. Before I posted, I did some checking to ensure I wasn't over exaggerating anything too much. If anyone is making up statistics, it is the UK sources I checked.
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/jul/12/babies-out-of-marriage-data
By 2016, most babies will be born outside of marriage if current trends continue. That, for many, has been the most interesting sentence to come out of the numbers.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...dren-will-be-born-out-of-wedlock-by-2016.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/half-of-all-babies-born-out-of-wedlock-8703059.html
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/jul/12/babies-out-of-marriage-data
By 2016, most babies will be born outside of marriage if current trends continue. That, for many, has been the most interesting sentence to come out of the numbers.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...dren-will-be-born-out-of-wedlock-by-2016.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/half-of-all-babies-born-out-of-wedlock-8703059.html
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That's by 2016 and most of what is being reported is historic abuse from the 60s, 70s and 80s.
Not to mention the step-father = abuse myth; or that it ignores the point that a child could have two parents at home who simply happen to not be married or married after the child was born.
Its strikes me as being a poorly worded and thought out statement designed to provoke a reaction.
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Dotini
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Here are some US statistics. Maybe they are all BS or don't apply to you in the UK. They don't look like anything to be too proud of.
http://www.blountkids.org/abuse-information-answers/
http://www.blountkids.org/abuse-information-answers/
- An estimated 1 in 4 girls, and 1 in 6 boys will be sexually abused before age 18.
- In 80% or more of child sexual abuse cases, the child is abused by someone he or she knows and trusts.
- In approximately half of the cases in which the child knows the offender, the trusted adult is a father or stepfather.
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Meanwhile, it's a clown who thinks he's a politician versus a politician who acts like a clown on Newsnight tonight.
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2014/dec/11/russell-brand-v-nigel-farage-question-time
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2014/dec/11/russell-brand-v-nigel-farage-question-time
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Boy, I'll be glad to be drinking €1.10 shots (40ml!) tonight instead. Sounds like a multiple train wreck waiting to happen. I'll catch it on iPlayer in the week.
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So stepfathers are a problem, hmmm? Consider this:
Virtually all mass murderers in this (US) country have eaten mashed potatoes at some point in their lives. In the majority of cases, fairly recently; even within a week before their horrendous deeds.
So clearly we need to ban mashed potatoes because they turn people into mass murderers!
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No one has gone from Cool to Tool faster than that insufferable prick.
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I do actually quite like Russell Brand, as a comedian at least, but he did himself no favours at all last night on QT. He was seemingly just there to attack Farage as far as i could tell. The 'Pound Shop Enoch Powell' comment was classic though. 👍
It's scary, if not surprising, to see such a huge shift of support away from the regular main parties. A such disenfranchised population historically starts voting for extremest parties.
It's scary, if not surprising, to see such a huge shift of support away from the regular main parties. A such disenfranchised population historically starts voting for extremest parties.
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Or not voting at all.
Our ballots absolutely should have a "None Of The Above" option. Why don't they? It's a guess, but I'd imagine it was because so many constituencies would have a NOTA plurality or even majority, that general elections would grind to a halt and take up to a year as they often did prior to the 19th century.
Our ballots absolutely should have a "None Of The Above" option. Why don't they? It's a guess, but I'd imagine it was because so many constituencies would have a NOTA plurality or even majority, that general elections would grind to a halt and take up to a year as they often did prior to the 19th century.
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In what way can the population be said to be disenfranchised?
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Brand made a fool of himself last night... plenty of opinions but little to back them up. The fact that he used every opportunity to attack Nigel Farage (and bankers) rather than answering the questions he was asked was just irritating. Ironically, Nigel Farage looked positively statesman-like next to Brand.
Amen.
Amen.
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In this day and age of social media it's much easier for politicians to target groups of people to generate support.
It wasn't that long ago that it was all about "and now follows a party political broadcast on behalf of the Labour party" on the Beeb, at that point you could just switch over, these days, popular issues are talked about much more, and it's easy for the parties, and the politicians, and the pundits and the hangers on to have a say.
Where as before, people might not have been happy with say, the situation with immigration, they'd probably sound like an utter racist for trying to discuss it, with no major party to look to (the BNP??!).. now, you can easily state your opinion, because you are only a click away from thousands of other people that share your opinion.
edit: I see Brand has started slagging off the "pantomime" that is Question Time, saying the only good thing is the audience..... know's how to win hearts doesn't he
stay classy Russell.
It wasn't that long ago that it was all about "and now follows a party political broadcast on behalf of the Labour party" on the Beeb, at that point you could just switch over, these days, popular issues are talked about much more, and it's easy for the parties, and the politicians, and the pundits and the hangers on to have a say.
Where as before, people might not have been happy with say, the situation with immigration, they'd probably sound like an utter racist for trying to discuss it, with no major party to look to (the BNP??!).. now, you can easily state your opinion, because you are only a click away from thousands of other people that share your opinion.
edit: I see Brand has started slagging off the "pantomime" that is Question Time, saying the only good thing is the audience..... know's how to win hearts doesn't he
stay classy Russell.
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Brand's face when that guy at the front laid into him was priceless:
They pretty much do have that option already - spoiling your ballot (an option I chose earlier this year). They're counted as invalid votes and if any significant number of people who don't turn out were to do it it'd be a big deal imo. They certainly couldn't spin it as an unusually high number of people had used ticks instead of crosses anyway!
That's ironic given Brand was the one focusing on personality, dishing out all these prepared one liners, shouting over the rest of the panel....... he was the panto.
They pretty much do have that option already - spoiling your ballot (an option I chose earlier this year). They're counted as invalid votes and if any significant number of people who don't turn out were to do it it'd be a big deal imo. They certainly couldn't spin it as an unusually high number of people had used ticks instead of crosses anyway!
edit: I see Brand has started slagging off the "pantomime" that is Question Time, saying the only good thing is the audience..... know's how to win hearts doesn't he
That's ironic given Brand was the one focusing on personality, dishing out all these prepared one liners, shouting over the rest of the panel....... he was the panto.
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While invalid votes may be counted for the purpose of statistics, they do not count towards the calculation of the outcome of an election. NOTA ought to.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...commodation-trainings-areas-setting-camp.html
Cool, soldiers aren't even safe in their own country. It also sound a lot like "don't dress sexy if you don't want to be raped".
Cool, soldiers aren't even safe in their own country. It also sound a lot like "don't dress sexy if you don't want to be raped".
Dunno to laugh or cry man.
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I guess she's just never been touched by a big strong black man before. He is King, after all.
