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How will you vote in the 2024 UK General Election?

  • Conservative Party

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Labour Party

    Votes: 14 48.3%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Other (Wales/Scotland/Northern Ireland)

    Votes: 1 3.4%

  • Other Independents

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other Parties

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Spoiled Ballot

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Will Not/Cannot Vote

    Votes: 8 27.6%
  • Total voters
    29
  • Poll closed .
It's very possible to go incredibly fast if you're travelling westwards by Rhuallt. The dual carriageway goes down a steep hill. Many do!

Our current Chief Constable is much less of a publicity magnet than Brunstrom.
 
Liquid
Um... is Prince Andrew friends with a nonce or something?
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Because he had a fling with a 17 year old, he's accused of pedophilia. That she was "sex slave" in the employ of a subsequently convicted felon has something to do with it. A nice, juicy scandal is the result.
 
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Apology for 'Muslim Birmingham' Fox News claim



An American terrorism commentator has apologised for describing Birmingham as a "Muslim-only city" where non-Muslims "don't go in" during an interview on Fox News.

Steven Emerson told the channel that in London "Muslim religious police" beat "anyone who doesn't dress according to Muslim, religious Muslim attire".

He later issued an apology for his "terrible error".

But many on social media have been ridiculing his comments.

One tweet said: "As someone born and raised in Birmingham, I must admit there was a pressure to read the Kerrang."

"I was supposed to go to Birmingham last week but I forgot my passport," said another.

Mr Emerson's comments about Birmingham and London led to many reacting on hashtag #FoxNewsFacts.

Some accused him on his investigative website of "speaking nonsense" and called his claims "utter rubbish".

Birmingham Edgbaston MP Gisela Stuart called the comments "stupid" with "no redeeming features".

"I checked whether this was some kind of early April Fool spoof, and then I thought he was talking about Birmingham, Alabama, but then I realised he was just utterly and completely wrong," the Labour MP said.

Mr Emerson, who founded a group called The Investigative Project on Terrorism, was giving his perspective on the terror attacks in France to Fox presenter Jeanine Pirro.

A witness called to testify to at least one Congressional committee, Mr Emerson later apologised and has offered to make a donation to Birmingham Children's Hospital.

"I have clearly made a terrible error for which I am deeply sorry," he said. "My comments about Birmingham were totally in error."

He said he would be issuing an apology on his website for "this comment about the beautiful city of Birmingham".

"I do not intend to justify or mitigate my mistake by stating that I had relied on other sources because I should have been much more careful.

"There was no excuse for making this mistake and I owe an apology to every resident of Birmingham."

More than 1,000 people have signed an online petition calling for Mr Emerson to make an "on-air apology to the people of Birmingham UK for saying non-Muslims cannot enter our beloved multi-cultural city".

Maryam Snape, who started the petition, said: "The fact of the matter is the American people saw this story and they are still going to believe it is the truth until he puts it right."
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Ignorance of the nth degree!

Some of the funny responses mocking his ignorance on Twitter,

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Carbonox
Whatever. But there's a lot of Muslims in there too, right? Assuming that one joke I heard is based on reality.
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Yes. It was a slip of the tongue on my part. The Beeb have an article on this, which includes this, courtesy of the 2011 census:

  • The city's population estimated at 1,073,045
  • Christian: 494,358
  • Muslim: 234,411
  • Sikh: 32,376
  • Hindu: 22,362
  • Buddhist: 4,780
  • Jewish: 2,205
  • Other: 5,646
  • No religion: 206,821
  • Religion not stated: 70,086
So just under 25% are quoted as Muslim. I find it interesting that there are about as many atheists as there are Muslims. Also, given the nature of religion in Britain these days, I doubt all of those 500,000 Christians are devout or even practicing.
 
It sounds like the complete opposite of a Jewish Ghetto but with Muslims, where they've put themselves there and when you go in they attack you.
 
Emerson was on the receiving end of a BBC News grilling just now. Apparently his "fact"-checking process consisted of reading through British newspapers.

...Ah.
 
I doubt he's reading anything other than the Mail and the Express. :/
 
Can you not find it from another source? I don't want my clicks to go to the Daily Fail. But just from the hyperlink the University of Oxford is a private institution (I think) so let them fill their boots. Don't like it? Study elsewhere. And that's without even reading the story; I'd imagine there's more to it.
 
Liquid
University of Oxford is a private institution (I think)
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Oxford is one of the UK's biggest, highly ranked and most globally recognized universities - OUP enjoys tax-free status as a registered charity and also receives (directly and indirectly) substantial amounts of public money via research councils and various funding bodies, hence why Oxford (like many HEIs in the UK) require much of their work to be published in Open Access journals/format.

Not only is this idea completely daft, I don't think the University's influential backers and sources of public funds will be at all happy with it either.

And all this thought of sausages and bacon is making me hungry.
 
Touring Mars
Oxford is one of the UK's biggest, highly ranked and most globally recognized universities - OUP enjoys tax-free status as a registered charity and also receives (directly and indirectly) substantial amounts of public money via research councils and various funding bodies, hence why Oxford (like many HEIs in the UK) require much of their work to be published in Open Access journals/format.
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Interesting info. I had suspicions it had certain 'concessions' but that it would still be classed as a private entity. Are charities not classed as a kind of private entities or are they a separate legal entity all together?

Touring Mars
Not only is this idea completely daft, I don't think the University's influential backers and sources of public funds will be at all happy with it either.
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Assuming the story is true, I completely agree with you. These people ought to put pressure on whomever made this decision, get it reversed and hopefully everyone has learnt a lesson. ...which you'd expect to do at university.
 
Liquid
Interesting info. I had suspicions it had certain 'concessions' but that it would still be classed as a private entity. Are charities not classed as a kind of private entities or are they a separate legal entity all together?
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I'm not sure whether Oxford University itself is truly (or wholly) a private organisation. The OUP is a department of Oxford University and is a charity - UK charities do have specific guidelines that they adhere to (whether public or private I assume) which might allow them to do things like this even if they are publicly owned or funded.
 
Here's one for you, Al Murray is standing in my constituency (Thanet South) as part of the FUKP (Free the United Kingdom Party) to rival Nigel Farage's UKIP bid:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-30819779

Now, I'm not entirely sure whether or not this is big publicity stunt or not - FUKP's name and Twitter profile suggests so - and as much as I despise Farage and UKIP, I am deeply concerned if Murray does genuinely stand. His 'policies' so far are rather obscene, as can be viewed here:



The concerns that I have are mainly based with the fact that if he does become a PPC that he will take away votes from the more serious parties, which could unfairly alter the result of the election, purely because people like the idea of a comedian standing.

Mind you, it has somewhat taken the nation by storm. Here are the odds currently:

BETTING ODDS (Ladbrooks)

UKIP 8/13

Conservative 15/8

Labour 7/1

The Pub Landlord 66/1

Liberal Democrats 100/1

Greens 200/1

Reality Party 500/1

The Manston Airport Party 500/1

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Murray is incredibly well-educated and if he does seriously stand, and radically reorganise his policies then he might actually face a chance with the constituency. But, I certainly can't see it happening as it stands.

Forgive me for being a tad boring on this front, I know that it needs to be taken with a pinch of salt.
 

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