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https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...mitting-accessing-indecent-images-of-children
"As he handed down the sentence, the chief magistrate said he had accepted evidence that Edwards had no recollection of viewing the indecent images owing to his mental health issues at the time of the offences."
Seems... convenient.
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Seems it got more and more horrible as it went along.
Originally it was exchanging pics with a 17yo which is... illegal but they could legally bone and it's one of those bizarre technicalities that doing the act is fine but filming or photographing the act is bad.
Then it was that he'd been exchanging messages with a guy who sent him pics that included CSAM after he'd said not to include CSAM - where the "making of" was simply the act of viewing them because the device created a local copy (which is how things work).
Now he actively agreed to seeing CSAM and commented on it and the request not to send more was later on.
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Par for the course. I had a friend who also was found guilty of three counts of 'making' Cat A porn against him, and he basically got the same, plus 100 hours community service. This was a couple of years ago. Like it or not, custodial sentences don't seem to be the favoured way of dealing with this.
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Prisons are also full at the moment - thanks to the recent imigrant riots and the subsquent ongoing rapid trials of those charged, so the courts are not sending people down who normally would be for this level of offence.
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Meanwhile the ecoterrorists get 3-5 years. Crimes against kids, ok. Crimes against the economy, PRISON.
Not to mention all those still stuck in jail for many years past their original sentences because of IPP.
The whole system is a complete mess. You'd hope the present government could do something about it with a former DPP in charge but I very much doubt it, to them it would not be worth anymore bad press about releasing people.
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As I said, my mates conviction was a couple of years ago, that had been delayed over the Pandemic, and at that point it was ongoing for 1-2 years already, and the offence was committed something like 18 months before that. I don't think Edwards's seemingly lenient sentence is anything to do with the current situation, beyond the fact that the Police and Judicial systems are under resourced and have been for years. I have another friend who worked for West Midlands Police catching online sex offenders, from what he said it likely wasn't even the UK police that original caught my mate - he reckoned it (my mates IP) was flagged up by the Americans and that was why it was a year and a half between him accessing the file and the Police turning up on his doorstep.
I have to say, having seen the process up close, knowing the person for 20 years, and having chatted to my police friend about it (who's seen some properly terrible stuff), we're terrible (as a society) at reacting to it in a sensible fashion, and that likely hampers prevention, detection, punishment and potential 'rehabilitation'.
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Yet he has still received a more sever punishment than the man who was supplying him with the images. Definitely lenient, to them both.
I think the judge in this case has followed the guidlines on sentencing based on the situation and case as it has been presented. I don't think overcrowded prisons are the reason for this, it's the current sentencing guidance for this type of offence married with the defence and guilty plea.
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6 month suspended sentence for Edwards (reduced from 12), 12 months for Alex Williams. Williams's sentence looks like it should have been more since it appears to qualify as distribution, for which 2-3 years is the recommended minimum. Perhaps he got a reduction for assisting the investigation into Edwards.
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I stand corrected, I mixed up it being suspended for 2 years as a 2 year suspended sentence.
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Notting Hill Carnival: Met chief says event is 'poorly run'
Sir Mark Rowley says he fears a “mass fatality event” like the Hillsborough disaster, through crushing.
www.bbc.co.uk
Khan's off to a good third term, but now's the time for action.
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Accepting glasses/clothes/Arsenal tickets or just suitcases full of cash? They're all at it.
The list for the frontrunner for next Tory leader:
The list for the frontrunner for next Tory leader:
That's all just from April, by the way.
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A lot of this comes down to the way tariffs for business are delivered to the end user.
The cost to the producers is the same as domestic, however where a domestic customer has a set tariff and all the levies, taxes and other charges are the same across the industry from customer to customer, it’s just how much the company want to cut into its own profit vs keeping that customer as a customer dictates the end cost.
Business however it’s much more complicated affair as the tariff is bespoke each and every time. Also when you’re out of your tariffs timeframe you’re opted into a standard which is very costly and based around higher users.
Think Café vs industrial steel producer costs. The cost is averaged out. While this is done on domestic energy pretty much everyone is in the same ballpark where companies vary quite a bit.
Also the levies and taxes are very much different. 20% on business vs 5% on domestic for VAT. Some suppliers have tried to help cut costs for small business by way of creating white label sub companies to offer better rates. However quite a few still don’t bother to switch across to these sub companies to get better rates and the companies themselves can’t force them to switch.
It’s a real mess and something better needs to be done. Personally switching dirty industries across to green / low carbon energy only and then helping them get solar and storage into facilities quicker would be a good start.
Also helping small business get solar and storage in along with more domestic style tariffs would be better for them. I’m glad I’m on the domestic side of energy and not commercial as their side is a real **** show and they really don’t care how their customers are treated or how to get a cleaner better run industry at large.
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In fairness, it's not that hard as a business. There's a ridiculous amount of people acting as energy brokers at the moment, we just let them handle it and periodically check with different brokers to see if we're on a competitive rate. I spend far more time fending off energy brokers touting for business than I do actually looking into energy costs, personally. It used to be 3 year deals, but since Ukraine everything's 12 months so it does take up more time nowadays, but it's still not much. It is a bit all over the place though. Currently, at our factory we're paying about 31p, the Bar we also own is paying 26p, both with EON on essentially the same deal, just signed a couple of months apart.
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Brokers are another pain in my side as I deal directly with Join and Leave issues. They take residential supplies then claim it was their clients fault all the whole the Business Energy Supplier changes everything in National Databases making getting the supply back 10 slower and neigh on impossible sometimes.
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Nothing she says is worth the neural degredation of actually paying attention to her. She's quadrupling down on being a no-talent, cringe-inducing, economy-destroying failure and embracing conspiracy theories because she has the stink of desperation that comes with NOTICE ME, REPUBLICANSSSSS! being your thing after you've busted out of UK politics.
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It was widely reported in February.Is there any coverage on this in the press over there? I know exactly nothing about this source and I can't find anything that doesn't lead back to it.
Britain’s ‘deep state’ thwarted my plans, Liz Truss tells US far-right summit
Former Conservative PM, whose tenure lasted 50 days, tells CPAC she fell victim to UK’s ‘establishment … its bureaucrats and lawyers’
Civil Service full of trans activists sabotaged my leadership, claims Liz Truss
Former PM appears at conservative conference in Washington and tells Republicans she faced ‘huge establishment backlash’
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Liz Truss tells US audience ‘trans activists’ are joining UK civil service
‘Now people are joining the civil service who are essentially activists – they might be trans activists, they might be environmental extremists – but they are now having a voice within the civil service in a way I don’t think was true 30 or 40 years ago, so we just have a wholly new problem’
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Thanks. So...accurate but ultimately regurgitating old events for rage clicks.It was widely reported in February.
Britain’s ‘deep state’ thwarted my plans, Liz Truss tells US far-right summit
Former Conservative PM, whose tenure lasted 50 days, tells CPAC she fell victim to UK’s ‘establishment … its bureaucrats and lawyers’www.theguardian.com
Civil Service full of trans activists sabotaged my leadership, claims Liz Truss
Former PM appears at conservative conference in Washington and tells Republicans she faced ‘huge establishment backlash’Liz Truss tells US audience ‘trans activists’ are joining UK civil service
‘Now people are joining the civil service who are essentially activists – they might be trans activists, they might be environmental extremists – but they are now having a voice within the civil service in a way I don’t think was true 30 or 40 years ago, so we just have a wholly new problem’
Yeah, it made me wonder if my comment regarding modern American conservatism should be so qualified, but it is an American sort of conservatism even if she's not American.
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Mother-of-three, 37, was 'repeatedly orally raped until she died'
NHS worker Natalie Shotter (pictured), 37, was attacked after apparently falling unconscious during a night out in Southall, West London, jurors were told.
This is my part of London. I've never heard of this cause of death before:
'On the night in question, Natalie was out enjoying herself and was taken advantage of by this defendant,' said Ms Morgan.
'She was raped repeatedly by this defendant and it was the process of raping her, again and again, that caused her death.
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I'm just tired....so tired.
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UK hands sovereignty of Chagos Islands to Mauritius
In a historic move, the UK gives up sovereignty of a strategic group of islands in the Indian Ocean.
www.bbc.co.uk
A sensible solution at long last. Won't erase the shameful actions of the Wilson/Heath governments and their American bosses, though. It's annoyed the current Tory twits so almost certainly a good thing.
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You should probably lay off the algorithm for a bit.
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I do hope that was nothing to do with me!
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The algorithm is my local big park? What?!
