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That'd be a HUGE 👎.
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You mean Challenger like in post 89?BlazinXtreme
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The camaro looks great. GM will probably find a way to screw it up though.
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CAMAROBOY69After looking at this new Camaro and new CHallenger I would easily pick the new Challenger. I thought after a while the look of the Camaro would grow on my, but it doesnt. I just dont like it.
Dodge did a great job capturing the retro feel with the new Challenger.
You're a pig. Gross.
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Actually, I think the C6 Corvette is the ugliest one ever made, with the C1 being the best, followed closely by the C4, then C2, than C5, than C3 and then C6. The C4 was the last good looking one. Engineering achievement, hell no. I mean, it had a daschboard with electronics that bugged out near microwaves. Kick-@$$ exterior for the time period? Most definately. The only things that out-80ed the Corvette C4 was the De Lorean and the Countach (which don't actually count, you see, both being designed in the 70's). The C6? Engineering acheivement? Yes. Good looking at all? Well, if you like the Ferrari 612 Scaglietti, yes. So no, not really.Magic069
@ Camaroboy69: Anyone can completely rip off a classic design. Just ask Ford or Lamborghini.
@ YSSMan: The olde style GTO? They did do that. In '99. It was a mid-engined piece of crap. It looked cool though.
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I like that Camaro way more than the challanger. And I think th C6 is one of the best looking vette's with the C1 being one of the ugliest ones.
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I'm refering to the 2003-present Pontiac GTo which shares it's platform with the Holden/Opel/Vauxhaull Monaro...
Detroit was supposed to be where they debuted the new look modeled after the 1965-1967 GTO's, with the vertical headlights and more squared off shoulders...
But without the GTO there, I wonder if the new Camaro will spin off a Firebird instead of Pontiac continueing on with the old Goat.
BTW: As a Corvette fan, the C2 Corvette (more specifically the '63-'67) is by far the best looking Corvette to be produced. Its hard for me to rank all of them together as the design of the Corvette has always looked good, and maybe at two points in it's history did it look strange... In the late '70s and early '80s with the last of the C3s and then the last few C5s, but only because everyone else was changing and not the Corvette...
Detroit was supposed to be where they debuted the new look modeled after the 1965-1967 GTO's, with the vertical headlights and more squared off shoulders...
But without the GTO there, I wonder if the new Camaro will spin off a Firebird instead of Pontiac continueing on with the old Goat.
BTW: As a Corvette fan, the C2 Corvette (more specifically the '63-'67) is by far the best looking Corvette to be produced. Its hard for me to rank all of them together as the design of the Corvette has always looked good, and maybe at two points in it's history did it look strange... In the late '70s and early '80s with the last of the C3s and then the last few C5s, but only because everyone else was changing and not the Corvette...
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I like it, actually love the body lines, except for one thing, the point it comes to in the front, its too pronounced. Its what made me hate the '90+ Camaro's, and its the only thing I hate about this car. Flatten the nose and grille, and it would be on my wish list.
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I still believe GM could have taken the C5, give it the headlights of the C5R Le Mans racer, and make it the C6R with some improvements. I don't really like the headlights or rear of the C6.
In terms of "screwing it up," how can GM mess up this machine? Mess it up in terms of looks, performance, certain options? how? I'd probably hope it can be an affordable machine to drive on the road, but also tear it loose on the track/strip. Of course, in terms of American car battles, the advantage would surely be in favor of the Camaro in the classic Camaro/Mustang rivalry with the power this bad boy has and perhaps its road racing skill as well.
This is sugar-sweet throwback by GM.
In terms of "screwing it up," how can GM mess up this machine? Mess it up in terms of looks, performance, certain options? how? I'd probably hope it can be an affordable machine to drive on the road, but also tear it loose on the track/strip. Of course, in terms of American car battles, the advantage would surely be in favor of the Camaro in the classic Camaro/Mustang rivalry with the power this bad boy has and perhaps its road racing skill as well.
This is sugar-sweet throwback by GM.
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The one sad thing about the C6 is that it doesn't bring much to the table style-wise over the C5... which isn't a bad thing, as I still consider the last-generation Z06 one of the sexiest hunks of metal ever.
Oops, I meant fiberglass.
The controversial headlights I can dig from a philosophical point of view. They save weight, and they help keep the aerodynamics clean. Granted, they could have done better, but the single-minded determination shown in this one item and in a number of items in GM's quest to make the C6 a true "bargain supercar" just has to be admired.
Oops, I meant fiberglass.
The controversial headlights I can dig from a philosophical point of view. They save weight, and they help keep the aerodynamics clean. Granted, they could have done better, but the single-minded determination shown in this one item and in a number of items in GM's quest to make the C6 a true "bargain supercar" just has to be admired.
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Tbh I think they did a relatively good job on the C6's styling, not counting the classic Vettes of the 60's and early 70's I've not really liked Corvette styling, the C6 I don't think looks really great, mainly because as niky said, hasn't really pushed on from the C5 that much from a casual viewer's perspective. Not a bad looking car at all, but being used to the car design we see in our sportscars over here is probaly the difference between me thinking nice, and really nice. Not that one type design or styling technique is neccisarily better, but you get used to what's around you, and theres a big contrast between general US design and British design when it comes to sportscars.
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TVR's are mental, but going onto general designs, sportscars over here are generaly more curves, less straight lines. The C6 does have curves, but the car is still generally straight lines, there are people that wil prefer the look of the C6 over a TVR over here simply because even for some Brit's, TVR's can be a bit too much style wise, a bit too radical ect. But I think the general differece in opinions between me liking a US car's design and you liking the same car or vice versa with a British car, is familiarity with that trend of styling. I can still appreciate a good looking US car, I love how the new Camaro looks, but most US car designs don't click with me, even on some if I can't see anything notably bad it doesn't instantly make me think, my god thats nice.
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Totally off topic but I really don't care...
[offtopic]Speaking of TVR's, how the hell does the hood of Tuscan open? And where is the engine? In Forza when you carbon fiber the hood it's really little and has always been a mistery to me. Also I can't seem to find any pictures of how it would open, I'm sure you know though.[/offtopic]
[offtopic]Speaking of TVR's, how the hell does the hood of Tuscan open? And where is the engine? In Forza when you carbon fiber the hood it's really little and has always been a mistery to me. Also I can't seem to find any pictures of how it would open, I'm sure you know though.[/offtopic]
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Its going to greatley depend on how GM decides to enter the Camaro into the growing pony-car or "sport coupe" segment... With the Mustang GT rolling out of dealerships fully loaded for $28K with the 300HP V8 and a 5-speed manual, GM should shoot for the same area with the Camaro. If they used the 325HP Vortec 5300 out of the GMT800/900 trucks and SUVs which is usually rated between 295-325HP and match it up with the T56, it would be a good fight against the Mustang, and a better suited engine to the Z/28 as well...
Assuming the 400HP LS2 would reside in an SS, it would be too easy for the Camaro to beat up on the GT... But at the same time, the Cobra may be too fast with 475HP on tap... Anyone up for a LS7-powered Camaro?
RS with a 3.6-3.8 V-6
Z28 with a 5.3
SS360 with the LS2
SS427 with the LS7
Versus
Base with 4.0 V-6
GT with 4.6 V-8
GT-500 with 5.4 SC V-8
plus, I think a GT-350, 6 Speed, IRS, 3200 Lbs, 350 Hp, $30,000-$35,000 to start would slot nicely into the lineup.
I hope they don't just make a Mach 1 and Bullitt again, bring back the GT-350 and Boss names dammit.
Z28 with a 5.3
SS360 with the LS2
SS427 with the LS7
Versus
Base with 4.0 V-6
GT with 4.6 V-8
GT-500 with 5.4 SC V-8
plus, I think a GT-350, 6 Speed, IRS, 3200 Lbs, 350 Hp, $30,000-$35,000 to start would slot nicely into the lineup.
I hope they don't just make a Mach 1 and Bullitt again, bring back the GT-350 and Boss names dammit.
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Considering that the LS2 powered "Goat" supposedly costs around 35,000 (I say supposedly because I honestly don't know what sticker this sales dud is getting... poor nice car), I don't think an "SS" would be able to target the GT... likely they would be aiming the 400hp+ Camaro at the GT500 at around 40k.
While it would be swell to see a Camaro with the LS7, I don't know if GM would be willing to put it so close in performance to the Corvette.
While it would be swell to see a Camaro with the LS7, I don't know if GM would be willing to put it so close in performance to the Corvette.
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But then it would, you know, need IRS, which Ford doesn't seem to think is important enough to put into a Mustang that will cost near $50,000.Onikaze
And how about for the base Camaro the 4.2L I-6 instead of the crappy Buick V6 (though the Caddy 3.6 is a pretty spry engine), and for the Z/28 the Northstar 4.7 as an option?
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