Car of the Week 228: COTY GTS Finale

[Alex p.]

GTS Nordschleife hot lap STOCK McLaren P1 GTR '16 but with sports hard tyres: 06.49.195​

Man, what a beast! It really feels like driving on ice. The tiniest mistake and you're off! Obviously its speed and cornering is unrivaled. Absolute madness this car! What really pisses me off is my Thrustmaster T300RS? It always "gives" up after around 1 hour. It gets really loose, loud and you get less and less feel while using it. In such a car this is devastating, because it gets not only extremely frustrating, but basically impossible to drive on the limit. The car spun basically instantly every time I entered the small Karussel and when I exited the big one. It's just rediculous! Why did a pay 330 Euro for it? I don't know. Already did send it for repair once. What an overpriced, unreliable and underengineered piece of hot garbage! I could have been faster a few seconds, oh well. Gonna buy the T-GT in the next few weeks and sell this one I guess. Anyone interested? (it works really well, but isn't REALLY good for on the limit hot lapping)

Driven stock on hard sport tyres without any driving aids, except ABS. First lap in third person view, second one in cockpit view and third one in cinematic replay view. All driven laps are the same lap.

Comparison with Nordschleife rivals:



Comparison with Tsukuba rivals:



Verdict: You can hardly call it a sleeper, now can you? I mean it does what it is supposed to do. It's obviously phenomenal nonetheless.

 

[Nismonath5]

Don't forget that the P1 GTR has a DRS system at its disposal, so if you find yourself at Fuji, LeMans or anywhere else with a good long straight or two, make sure to have your overtake button mapped!!

 

[XSquareStickIt]

Comparison with Tsukuba rivals:

Hmm... the P1 sounds amazing, but if a Honda S660 is a close rival to it around Tsukuba, I think I'll save my money and get the Kei car.

 

[Pickle_Rick74]

GTS Nordschleife hot lap STOCK McLaren P1 GTR '16 but with sports hard tyres: 06.49.195​

Man, what a beast! It really feels like driving on ice. The tiniest mistake and you're off! Obviously its speed and cornering is unrivaled. Absolute madness this car! What really pisses me off is my Thrustmaster T300RS? It always "gives" up after around 1 hour. It gets really loose, loud and you get less and less feel while using it. In such a car this is devastating, because it gets not only extremely frustrating, but basically impossible to drive on the limit. The car spun basically instantly every time I entered the small Karussel and when I exited the big one. It's just rediculous! Why did a pay 330 Euro for it? I don't know. Already did send it for repair once. What an overpriced, unreliable and underengineered piece of hot garbage! I could have been faster a few seconds, oh well. Gonna buy the T-GT in the next few weeks and sell this one I guess. Anyone interested? (it works really well, but isn't REALLY good for on the limit hot lapping)

Driven stock on hard sport tyres without any driving aids, except ABS. First lap in third person view, second one in cockpit view and third one in cinematic replay view. All driven laps are the same lap.

Comparison with Nordschleife rivals:



Comparison with Tsukuba rivals:



Verdict: You can hardly call it a sleeper, now can you? I mean it does what it is supposed to do. It's obviously phenomenal nonetheless.

Do you have the fan running full time? I found that fixed that issue for mine. Hold mode and option button until the light flashes. Should run full time then, and give you 2-3 hours before melt down.
Worked for me anyways.
Why not the new fanatec if upgrading?

 

[Alex p.]

Do you have the fan running full time? I found that fixed that issue for mine. Hold mode and option button until the light flashes. Should run full time then, and give you 2-3 hours before melt down.
Worked for me anyways.
Why not the new fanatec if upgrading?

Thx mate! I already got the T-GT, which is a lot better, than the T300. AND I actually DID order the Fanated DD Pro

 

[Alex p.]

Hmm... the P1 sounds amazing, but if a Honda S660 is a close rival to it around Tsukuba, I think I'll save my money and get the Kei car.

Didn't quite get your joke?

 

[XSquareStickIt]

Didn't quite get your joke? View attachment 1101960

I think you embedded the wrong Tsukuba comparison video. It shows the Beat vs S660 video, not the P1.

 

[Alex p.]

I think you embedded the wrong Tsukuba comparison video. It shows the Beat vs S660 video, not the P1.

I'm an idiot, it is not released yet, thus it's not shown.

A current list of all not yet used cars for COTW:


ABARTH (1)
1500 Biposto Bertone B.A.T 1 1952 (N100)

ALFA ROMEO (3)
4C Launch Edition 2014 (N200)
Giulia TZ2 Carrozzata da Zagato CN.AR750106 1965 (Gr.X)
MiTo 1.4 T Sport 2009 (N200)

Alpine (3)
Vision Gran Turismo 2017 (Gr.1)
Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.X)
Vision Gran Turismo Race Mode (Gr.X)

ASTON MARTIN (5)
DB3S CN.1 1953 (Gr.X)
DB11 2016 (N600)
DP-100 Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.X)
Vantage Gr.4 (Gr.4)
Vulcan 2016 (N800)

AUDI (8)
R8 LMS Audi Team Sport WRT 2015 (Gr.3)
R18 TDI Audi Team Sport Joest 2011 (Gr.1)
R18 TDI Le Mans 2011 (Gr.1)
R18 e-tron 2016 (Gr.1)
Sport quattro S1 Pikes Peak 1987 (Gr.B)
TT Cup 2016 (Gr.4)
TTS Coupe 2014 (N300)
Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.1)

BMW (4)
M4 Coupe 2014 (N400)
M4 Safety Car (Gr.X)
M6 GT3 Walkenhorst Motorsport 2016 (Gr.3)
M6 GT3 M Power Livery 2016 (Gr.3)

BUGATTI (3)
Veyron Gr.4 (Gr.4)
Vision Gran Turismo Gr.1 (Gr.1)
Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.X)

CHEVROLET (1)
Corvette Stingray Race Concept (C2) 1959 (Gr.X)

CITROËN (1)
GT by Citroen Gr.4 (Gr.4)

DODGE (8)
Charger SRT Hellcat Safety Car (N700)
SRT Tomahawk VGT Gr.1 (Gr.1)
SRT Tomahawk VGT Racing (Gr.X)
SRT Tomahawk VGT Street (Gr.X)
SRT Tomahawk VGT Technology (Gr.X)
Viper Gr.4 (Gr.4)
Viper SRT10 Coupe 2006 (N500)
Viper SRT GT3-R 2015 (Gr.3)

FERRARI (4)
250 GT Berlinetta passo corto CN.2521 1961 (N300)
250 GTO CN.3729GT 1962 (Gr.X)
458 Italia 2009 (N600)
Dino 246GT 1971 (N200)

FORD (6)
GT 2006 (N600)
GT LM Spec II Test Car (Gr.3)
Mustang Gr.3 Road Car (N500)
Mustang Gr.B Rally Car (Gr.B)
Mustang GT Premium Fastback 2015 (N400)
Mustang Mach 1 1971 (N300)

GRAN TURISMO (4)
Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo (N600)
Red Bull X2014 Standard 2014 (Gr.X)
Red Bull X2014 Junior 2014 (Gr.X)
Red Bull X2019 Competition (Gr.X)

HONDA (4)
NSX Gr.3 (Gr.3)
NSX Gr.4 (Gr.4)
S800 1966 (N100)
Sports Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.X)

HYUNDAI (4)
Genesis Gr.3 (Gr.3)
Genesis Gr.4 (Gr.4)
N 2025 Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.1)
N 2025 Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.X)

INFINITI (1)
Concept Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.X)

JAGUAR (6)
D-Type 1954 (Gr.X)
E-Type Coupe 1961 (N300)
F-Type Gr.4 (Gr.4)
XJ13 1966 (Gr.X)
XJR-9 1988 (Gr.1)
Vision Gran Turismo Coupe (Gr.X)

KTM (1)
X-BOW R 2012 (N300)

LAMBORGHINI (6)
Aventador LP700-4 2011 (N700)
Aventador LP750-4 Superveloce 2015 (N800)
Countach LP400 1974 (N400)
Huracan Gr.4 (Gr.4)
Huracan LP610-4 2015 (N600)
Miura P400 Bertone Prototype CN.0706 1967 (N400)

LEXUS (4)
LC500 2017 (N500)
LF-LC GT Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.X)
RC F au Tom's 2016 (Gr.2)
RC F Gr.4 (Gr.4)

MAZDA (7)
Atenza Gr.3 Road Car (N500)
Atenza Gr.4 (Gr.4)
Atenza Sedan XD L Package 2015 (N200)
LM55 Vision Gran Turismo Gr.1 (Gr.1)
LM55 Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.X)
Roadster S 2015 (N100)
RX-Vision GT3 Concept 2020 (Gr.3)

MCLAREN (4)
650S GT3 2015 (Gr.3)
MP4-12c 2010 (N600)
Ultimate Vision Gran Turismo Gr.1 (Gr.1)
Ultimate Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.X)

MERCEDES-BENZ (7)
A45 AMG 4MATIC 2013 (N400)
AMG F1 W08 EQ Power+ (Gr.X)
AMG F1 W08 EQ Power+ Color Variation (Gr.X)
AMG Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.X)
AMG Vision Gran Turismo LH Edition (Gr.X)
AMG Vision Gran Turismo Racing Series (Gr.X)
Sauber C9 1989 (Gr.1)

MINI (2)
Cooper S 2005 (N200)
Clubman Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.X)

MITSUBISHI (4)
Lancer Evolution IV GSR 1996 (N300)
Lancer Evolution Final Edition Gr.3 (Gr.3)
Lancer Evolution Final Edition Gr.B Rally Car (Gr.B)
Lancer Evolution Final Edition Gr.B Road Car (N500)

NISSAN (10)
Concept 2020 Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.X)
Fairlady Z Version S 2007 (N300)
GT-R Gr.B Rally Car (Gr.B)
GT-R Motul Autech 2016 (Gr.2)
GT-R Premium Edition 2017 (N600)
GT-R Safety Car (Gr.X)
GT-R Xanavi Nismo (Gr.2)
R92CP 1992 (Gr.1)
Skyline GT-R V-spec (R33) 1997 (N300)
Skyline GT-R V-spec II Nür (R34) 2002 (N300)

PEUGEOT (8)
208 GTI by Peugeot Sport 2014 (N200)
908 HDI FAP Team Peugeot Total 2010 (Gr.1)
RCZ Gr.3 Road Car (N500)
RCZ Gr.4 (Gr.4)
RCZ Gr.B Rally Car (Gr.B)
L500R Hybrid Vision Gran Turismo 2017 (Gr.X)
L750R Hybrid Vision Gran Turismo 2017 (Gr.1)
Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.X)

PORSCHE (2)
911 GT3 (997) 2008 (N400)
962C 1988 (Gr.1)

RENAULT SPORT (4)
Clio RS 220 EDC Trophy 2015 (N200)
Clio RS 220 EDC Trophy 2016 (N200)
Megane RS Trophy 2011 Safety Car (N300)
R.S.01 GT3 2016 (Gr.3)

SHELBY (1)
Cobra Daytona Coupe 1964 (Gr.X)

SUBARU (6)
BRZ S 2015 (N200)
BRZ Falken Tire/Turn 14 Distribution 2017 (Gr.X)
Impreza Coupe WRX Type R STi Version VI 1999 (N300)
WRX Gr.3 (Gr.3)
WRX Gr.B (Gr.B)
WRX STI Type S 2014 (N300)

TESLA (1)
Model S Signature Performance 2012 (Gr.X)

TOYOTA (14)
86 Gr.4 (Gr.4)
86 Gr.B Rally Car (Gr.B)
86 GRMN 2016 (N200)
86 GT 2015 (N200)
86 GT Limited 2016 (N200)
Crown Athlete G Safety Car (N300)
FT-1 (Gr.X)
FT-1 Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.X)
FT-1 Vision Gran Turismo Gr.3 (Gr.3)
GR Supra Racing Concept (Gr.3)
GR Supra RZ 2020 (N400)
S-FR 2015 (N100)
TS030 Hybrid 2012 (Gr.1)
Tundra TRD Pro 2019 (N400)

VOLKSWAGEN (6)
1200 1966 (N100)
Scirocco Gr.4 (Gr.4)
Golf VII GTI 2014 (N200)
GTI Roadster Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.X)
GTI Vision Gran Turismo Gr.3 (Gr.3)
Samba Bus Type 2 (T1) 1962 (N100)

 

[XSquareStickIt]

It's a good thing we got the car reveal early this week, because I figure I could really use some practice with the car, and so I took it out for a quick spin.

I meant that last part at its most literal sense—I very quickly spun the car.

The P1 GTR is diabolical to drive. You know how we tend to use TC1 immediately after a standing start as a form of launch control, then immediately turn it off once we're out of first gear? Yeah well, I wound up keeping TC2 for the entire lap, because the P1 will keep wheelspinning even in third. Mind you, this is a game in which driving in GT500 and LMP1 cars without traction control is not only easy, but faster!

The DRS system it has is really smart, because it automatically activates when the car has less than a tiny amount of steering lock applied. Apparently it can be activated manually by holding the overtake button? I don't really know, because I don't fancy the thought of trying to hold a button on a steering wheel when said wheel is being turned in a car with over 900 horses going to the rear, and besides, on most tracks, the car is too damn fast to need your manual DRS input anyway.

The real kicker is how this car corners. I can't wrap my head around it. Even with all its active and non road legal aero, it behaves as though a paper plane in a crosswind under braking—if you apply even a tiny amount of steering angle while fully on the brakes, the car just immediately goes tits sideways, pointing you perpendicular to the road. If you ease off the brakes trying to trail brake into a corner, the car just refuses to turn. Built from the ground up as a be all end all hypercar, being so track focused as to forsake its own road legality, having racing tyres, active aero, and 150% of the power of a modern GT3 car, it feels like it doesn't take high speed turns as well as a GT3 machine with inactive aero slapped onto a fattened sedan, requiring HARD (and very careful!) braking into Eau Rouge.

Like I said, I don't get it. Maybe there ought to be a lot more aids and computers under the bonnet that hasn't been simulated. But I simply can't drive this thing without walls and gravel traps becoming involved. It's a hell of a pretty car, but it just isn't for me. I might skip this week's meet entirely.

 

[Yard_Sale]

Finally getting off work this morning…. Been there since last Wednesday. Headed up to the mountains to celebrate Christmas at my parents, but decided to take a quick detour enroute to snap a couple pics in hopes of buying some leeway from you guys being that I’m 3 reviews behind and my attendance has been almost nonexistent (yeah, yeah, yeah new guy….whatever). These pics are about 5 minutes old, hot from my phone to the cloud and into whatever device of your choosing!!!

 

[XSquareStickIt]

You're making us sound like a cult, stop it

The whole point of this is casual fun. There's no need to feel obligated to race or review. Most of us don't write at all. I've missed a few cars here and there, be it races or review. Just do what you can when you can, if you want. I'm happy enough that you enjoy what's on the table

Gosh, I'm so jealous of you! Willow Springs is one of my favourite places to shoot in GTS. Scenery is breathtaking and the atmosphere is unreal even in the game. Horse Thief Mile and Streets are among the very few tracks in the game where low powered cars are really in their element.

 

[Yard_Sale]

My preliminary report on the Mclaren is rife with mixed feelings. I think this is what would happen if you could bump the power of a gr.3 car to group 1 levels… but with no upgrades whatsoever to the Aero or brakes. I missed the meet so I went to my personal test track (Fuji) for about 45 minutes. As soon as I figured out the braking points (which mainly consisted of easing on the brakes as soon as I exited the previous corner) it wasn’t too bad. But the power understeer was really bad with no real solution under than extreme short shifting... And that still wouldn’t really help all that much. Keeping the stock racing hards on, I decided to start doing some minor tuning. A huge help was to take a bunch of power out of it. I lowered it as low as I could. Next, I played with the aero it did have, and I put max downforce on the front. That seemed to help a lot. As far as the lift-off oversteer, it was only a factor if I dropped below 3rd gear... which there's really no reason to, except in the tightest of corners.

Once I got some of these things sorted, the car was usable. It was like a group 2.5 car, but not in a good way. Waaaaay tooo poooowerful for its own good. The lack of brakes is its biggest Achilles heel, and I'm not sure if that's easily rectifiable without going to softer compound tires

 

[Pickle_Rick74]

Okay guys and gals, I am going to start writing the end of year awards and would love a few more nominations, pick a categorie, make one up, whatever, anything will help, so far I only have Vic and myself, would love more input.
Happy holidays and happy new year to all.

 

[Alex p.]

Most beautiful car.
Ugliest car.
Best handling.
Worst handling.

Someone fancy doing a list of all this year used cars?

 

[Yard_Sale]

Gonna ask an off-topic question here

Just got my PS5. Gonna set it up tomorrow. Anything I need to do to optimize it for Gran Turismo? I’m coming from a bone stock base model PS4. I have no clue what HDR is or any of that crap. Don’t have a 4K tv either but I’m pretty sure it’s 120hz…. Whatever that means

 

[Pickle_Rick74]

Gonna ask an off-topic question here

Just got my PS5. Gonna set it up tomorrow. Anything I need to do to optimize it for Gran Turismo? I’m coming from a bone stock base model PS4. I have no clue what HDR is or any of that crap. Don’t have a 4K tv either but I’m pretty sure it’s 120hz…. Whatever that means

Lmao, you'll probably want to data transfer from the ps4 once you are set up, pretty much walks you through it when you power it up for the first time. If you run a surround amp for sure do the 3d sound set up, it's mega badass. Other than that the menus take a minute or two to get used to, but it's still a playatation so I'm sure you will have no problems.

 

[Yard_Sale]

What is HDR? Is that a 4K thing? Do I need to enable it….as in…is it worth it?

 

[XSquareStickIt]

So... what's our first car of 2022, @Racer283 ?

 

[RX8 Racer]

So... what's our first car of 2022, @Racer283 ?

Yeah, I’m wondering what car we’re running for my birthday.

 

[Pickle_Rick74]

If it is the car of the year, I'm still writing, but could give away that one if needed. Still only 2 nominations for that, and I'm one of them, but I agree with the other vote. Just let me know

 

[Alex p.]

Did I completely miss the winning categories? A list of cars we ran this year?

 

[Pickle_Rick74]

Car of the year
Beater of the year
Livery designer
Best looking
Worst looking
Cleanest driver (sportsman)
Driver of the year
Most improved driver
And anything else you think might add to it, I don't have a lost of all the cars we did, just need to remember the important ones really.

 

[Draggon]

You'll find the 2021 car list here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/car-of-the-week-week-166-mclaren-p1-gtr.381420/

Who do we message with our votes?

 

[Alex p.]

Car of the year: Ferrari F40
Beater of the year: Honda FIT Hybrid
Best looking: Ferrari F40
Worst looking: Daihatsu Copen RJ VGT
Biggest positive surprise (concerning the handling, driveabilty, etc.): Chevrolet Camaro SS '16
Best handling: Porsche 911 GT3 RS '16
Worst handling: Fiat 500 F '68

 

[Pickle_Rick74]

You'll find the 2021 car list here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/car-of-the-week-week-166-mclaren-p1-gtr.381420/

Who do we message with our votes?

You can send them to me, or just post here, either works for me. Thanks for the votes guys!! This will make it much easier for me as I am not a great writer, so the more content I can load up with the better.

 

[Pickle_Rick74]

This is good because the F40 was going to win best looking car before anybody sent me any votes...
I was not going to listen to any wrong(not F40) answers for that one. Lol

 

[Alex p.]

This is good because the F40 was going to win best looking car before anybody sent me any votes...
I was not going to listen to any wrong(not F40) answers for that one. Lol

 

[Pickle_Rick74]

So is tonight's car the car of the year?

 

[Racer283]

Typically the first week of January is COTY and awards.

 

[Pickle_Rick74]

Typically the first week of January is COTY